SLEEP REGRESSION part 2...Roll up, roll up folks! Swap tales of woe, ideas, enjoy solidarity and get support here

[cakebaby]

Thought I'd start a new thread as I couldn't see another one yet (will get HQ to delete if already up and running).

Tis good to talk.....

Cakebaby your tablet traumas do make me laugh!

Cakeis Window cleaners, FFS, how do they do it? I swear ours has a special radar for BFing norks. We had similar nap fails yesterday including the zombie pram march while DD sat and stared at me and a point blank refusal to sleep anywhere in the house. She had less than an hour sleep all day despite my best efforts and predictably had a meltdown at bedtime. I am at how quickly my relationship has gone all 1950s on me since I've been on ML. I'm back at work part time now but responsibility for everything domestic seems to have stuck.

Mirrhi DP and I have both had job interviews in the last few months. The night before his he slept undisturbed in the spare room. The night before mine I got up numerous times with DD despite having had a bad case of food poisoning the day before. I did the interview on the phone after not eating for 48 hours. Guess which one of us got the job? .

Keep which sleep consultant did you speak to? Did it help?

Boo I don't think the HV was suggesting I quit BFing completely, though that seemed like the implication in her saying that it contributed to night wakes. However I have chatted to people on another thread who have stopped night feeds but seen no difference to the number of wakes. I am sceptical of HVs' knowledge of BF though, i've been told some real rubbish in the past.

Yesterday i was at a baby group where one of the mums announced that her EBF 9 week old was now STTN. It transpired that DD - second oldest of the babies there - is the only one that doesn't. Is this really true or do people lie?

artemis take that info re sttn with a pinch of salt. In theory, I could have said (exaggerated) that dd sttn between 8 and 12 weeks, as she more often than not went 8-3am - how happy was I? Well i actually kept worrying there was something wrong with her! But of course here we are now at 8 mths and my wise started at 12 weeks so that mum of the 9 weeker could soon be eating her words...

Just attempting bedtime now after nap fail, while ds watches frozen for the 497th time

Woes not wise!

Also don't forget some people bizarrely call 12-5 sleeping thru which it absolutely isn't in my book! 7-7 thank you very much

Ah yes, the under 12 week olds who STTN. It'll be 12-6. DD2 slept long stretches between 11pm-5am at that age. As we all know it doesn't last.

Honesty loads of mums lie. I had mates who went on about their babies who slept all night. As the years go by they now remarkably remember lots of night time awakenings and being knackered!

DD2 had a couple of catnaps today instead of her usual long sleep and was bonkers by late afternoon so she went to bed early. Had a decent night as she didn't wake until after 4.30am and went back to sleep after a feed. Bet tonight isn't so good.

My DH is really good, but he can be an arse too. If I hear the 'but you're on holiday' jibe again he'll get his eye poked.

I'd take 11-5. hell, I'd take a 3 hour stretch right now...

the sleep consultant was helpful I'm going to start in 10 days as we are going away.

mat leave is not a fecking holiday. particularly if you have a crap sleeper. I am so . of my husband's evenings and nights while I go to bed early and am up half the night

Here to amuse and lighten the mood with my tablet bashing Artemis fucking thing drives me batshit crazy are you persevering with your sleep consultant? The unblinking stare of a pram strapped baby is quite unnerving isn't it?

Ds is cutting 2 top teeth and has been quite agitated by them today so I can forgive him a few extra wakings I suppose. I don't think he will ever sleep 7-7. People do tell massive porkies about sleep. I just ignore, whilst thinking, yes of course, now do be a dear and shut up about it or fuck off.

I'm seriously considering packing in our classes as they are interfering with meal/nap times. I never thought I'd consider this, but I can't take the food/nap refusal if its an hour late etc. Maybe that'll just compound the problem?

I'm still in the doghouse about the lie in, apparently today I've had 'oh have you had a nice day in the sun?' etc.....whilst I've been at work.....blah, blah.... And a withering look when a small spill was located in the fridge door. FFS, Stepford wife I am not. If he thinks its bad now, wait til I'm back at work

I've just poked your 'D'H with a rod Cake. What an arse.

Keep - what has she suggested you should do?

My DP is quite clever & somehow (god knows how) turns things around so I end up feeling sorry for him!!

cake thwack him over the head. what an are indeed.

boo we are basically going to do gradual withdrawal for night wakings, keeping just one night feed after 1am for a few days then dropping it. dd goes down awake so doesn't feed to sleep but thinks she needs a stuffed tummy to sleep. also things like bedtime feed with curtains open, then a book and into grobag to try and stop the association.

I am . we can't just feed to sleep but I have seen too many people on mn with 15mo who still wake for feeds multiple times and are still waiting for them to grow out of it. I need my life and sanity back.

also she was good as she talked us through the options rather than just having a preferred one.

Morning ladies
Doing well with the in cot awake at bedtime and going to sleep herself. So then...if she's learnt that ok why the millions of wake ups?! I think she was up at 11, 1, 5 and up for day at 6. She's also got some new tricks - a liking to sit up, lean over from the waist and lie head down - attempt to go to sleep in that position - why?!
Pushchair nap refusal again this morning.

Cakeis I had to laugh at the image of your DD trying to sleep like that. I don't understand the being able to self settle at the start of the night but not in the middle of the night either. All of the books seem to think that the start of the night is the hard one to crack and if you can put them down awake then all your problems are solved

We had a couple of good nights and I hoped if I didn't put that in writing then they would continue, but they didn't. Teething is getting pretty bad and he is now filling his nappy at 4am in his sleep but loud enough to wake me up. He sometimes sleeps through the nappy change but I'm always wide awake afterwards.

Afternoon pushchair nap fail too...arrgh - let's see what tonight brings!

maybe she'll be so tired cake that she won't bother to wake. so she's had no naps?!

30 mins at 10am and 20 mins at 4.30, both on me...in cot now, couple of quick settles so far soon after she went down

Cake your DS sleeping through is giving me hope. Even if he's not done it again yet, he soon will.

Keep hope the sleep consultant can help with your LO's sleep. How much do their services cost if you don't mind me asking? Do they offer money back if they can't help??

One step forward two steps back here. We had a few better nights when he slept 9-12 without waking up. Even had one night with only 3 wake ups (maybe it was 4, but I think my sleep deprived brain is not even registering some of the wake ups anymore), and if I got up after his last wake up (7am) instead of going back to sleep you could even call it 2!

Last night however was something... I have a feeling he's getting slightly better, not really sleeping longer stretches but less wake ups (although that's due to cosleeping I think), so I decided to write down his wake ups.

He woke up 8 times between 9pm - 4am. Then I took him into my bed and he slept till 8am...

......&@&£&!

cute 8 times, you poor thing. Hope you managed to get a decent stretch of sleep at the end.

We had the worst night we've ever had last night the highlight of which was me sobbing in my pillow at 4am whilst DH tried his best to help unsuccessfully

I think it was a combination of teething and our room being warm for the first time in living memory as it's usually an ice box. DH let me sleep in until 11am but I'm not sure I feel any better for it.

Oh Miss, been there done that. The stretch between 2am-4am is always the worst in my opinion. DD2 had a phase of being up for hours at this time. It's bloody awful.

We seem to be having a reasonable phase at the moment. DD2 woke at midnight but DH settled her and then she didn't wake until nearly 6am! Had a feed and conked out again for an hour.

We've been having mostly one wake up and feed a night, always after midnight. Had a couple of hellish nights and then back to being reasonable again. Keeping everything crossed we keep going in the right direction.

DD2 not got any teeth yet so they will come into play soon enough. She's really, really active. Cruising round furniture constantly and attempting to bloody walk. Think she must be so knackered that she's no choice but to sleep.

I'm feeling very lucky that I'm getting a reasonable nights sleep.

I suspect some of you would happily poke me in the eye.

soup I'm so please you're having some good nights, no eye poking from this direction.

You're right, 2-4 is the hardest stretch and although usually the wakings don't start until after 1am last night he only slept until 11pm so I didn't get my usual few hours at the start of the night.

I've been out and bought a 1 tog Gro Bag to try tonight. If he doesn't have his legs covered he fidgets and rolls and ends up jackknifed across his cot. I also threw myself at the mercy of the woman at the pharmacy and asked for one for everything they sell for teething. I am hoping one of them works!

Great news soup
Dd started crawling today so hoping her also being active will start to wear her out. She had a sleep in the pushchair this aft so the jinx is lifted!

Great news soup I think you've served enough time so that no one will want to poke you!

And caskeis go mini cake!

cute hang in there, its bloody miserable, you have my sympathies, I thought I was heading for a breakdown when ds was waking every 45 mins for weeks. It will get better. I drove myself bonkers trying everything, sleep consultants, Ewan, Lionheart, turtle (tranquil, not twilight, best one IMO) nothing worked, I just had to wait it out. Co sleeping saved me.

miss good luck with the grobag & teething remedies! There's nothing wrong with a preventive dose of calpol IMO

Felt a bit sorry for myself this eve selfish & ungrateful, dh at work on hideous shift, beautiful eve, glorious sun, neighbours having a BBQ with sounds of popping corks and much joviality. So I put ds to bed and sat on the garden steps, ate my pasta and had a glass of low alcohol spritzer in the last of the evening sun.

It. Was. Glorious.

Good on you cake it's the little things that can really help sometimes
Dd is in bed, once the remaining two are also there I plan to eat substantial chocolate and crisps

My how things have changed! Seems I'm very easily pleased these days. On another note...last night I refused to feed ds at resettles (3 before I went to bed). I've never managed to do it consistently before. He cried for about 15 mins each time then harrumphed and nodded off. So far tonight, no wake ups, watching & waiting.....

Last night not too bad - 9.30, 1.00, 4.15, 7.30 get up.

HOWEVER...today we have had one nap of 1 hour, yes that's right - one nap...