SLEEP REGRESSION part 2...Roll up, roll up folks! Swap tales of woe, ideas, enjoy solidarity and get support here

[cakebaby]

Thought I'd start a new thread as I couldn't see another one yet (will get HQ to delete if already up and running).

Tis good to talk.....

Ouch cake, I'd punch your OH in the face!

I was supposed to have a lie in today too, but by the time DS woke up and finished feeding DP decided to go to the shop... To be fair if I told reminded him he promised me a lie in he would have stayed. But I actually felt wide awake so just got up.

Last night wasn't great but actually a bit better - his first stretch was 2.45, and also when I took him to bed just before 5am he slept till 7.20, which have me a bit of a boost I think. The rest of the night were hourly wakings of course...

His second nap today was quite interesting. He slept for 40 mins in the pram (at home) and when I picked him up he was quite wingey. I thought he was hungry so fed him and he fell asleep again! So I just held him in my arms while watching OBEM and he slept for 20 mins. Then he woke up as I think he was uncomfortable so I put him on my chest and he slept for further 40 mins! So in total if you forget wake ups he napped for 1h 40mins!

I really enjoyed DS napping on me - it's been so long since he's done that last time... I used to moan that he would only nap on me when he was smaller, but I really wouldn't mind if he would do that sometimes

Big wave to Soup and all the other HC prisoners guests. Fishslap to Cakebaby's DH. I think 2 hrs in the cot is progress. That's what we did to start with, DD began the night in the cot then came in with me after the first wake, until eventually I got the bottle to put her back in the cot. It depends how she is and how confident I feel as to whether I put her back in the cot or take the 'safe' option for more sleep.

DD now has a filthy cold and is a pitiful sight. I think she's cutting her first tooth as well. The cold started the morning after her scream fest night. You can imagine how much of a bitch I feel for leaving her in the cot and trying to wait it out rather than picking her up and soothing - she showed no sign of being ill until the next day but it must have been brewing. However, last night she didn't have her first wake until 2am. Unheard of. She went back in the cot after a feed, slept until 5, then co slept until 7. That's the longest night, and longest single stretch of sleep, she's ever done. Hoping it wasn't just a fluke or down to her being poorly. She's been asleep tonight since 7. DP is out and I'm having to resist the urge to go in and prod her to make sure she's OK .

Nice one Artemis. Fingers X it wasn't a fluke and she'll do it again tonight!

Our night has started with hourly wakings. Bloody great. Really looking forward to the rest.

Oh Cute. Sympathy. Hope it improves!

DD went to bed at 7 and is still asleep. Heard her resettle a few times but she hasn't needed me. I went to bed at 9.30 and am still awake. FFS!! Had to get up to express some milk in the end as my boobs hurt and I really don't want mastitis. Oh the irony...!

Oh Artemis At least you know it wasn't a fluke!

Sadly once he starts waking up every hour it doesn't improve as night progresses...

Also discovered that there is no point in trying to get a big feed into him in hope he'll sleep for longer stretch - he just snoozes on the boob for an hour and still wakes up an hour later

Hiya all, im new please be nice!
I think my dd has regressed....... either that or she's been swapped for a devil child..

She slept through from 4 weeks, 7pm-7am without waking.. Wonderful, perfect, happy child and mummy..

Now 15mo will go to bed at 7, wake between 12 and 1, scream forever if left in cot, will go straight back to sleep if in bed with us, will then wake at roughly 5 (but this morning it was 4) and be ready for the day.. This is insane isn't it?!

She still has a lunch time nap, and normally when sleeping like a civilised human would have an hour, she's been having up to 2 1/2 recently.. But I'm not sure if waking her would help as she would then be over tired at bedtime?!

Owhhhh.... Been up since 4, dps fast asleep in bed as he normally does the 'night shift' but since he's actually had to do something it's wiped him out!!

Help?
Support?
Coffee?!

Hi beany I have to say I would just be putting her right in bed at that wake up and not even giving it another thought! Ds was like that and I promise you at 9 yrs old he doesn't sleep in my bed
Hourly wages from bedtime to 5am then she allowed me a sleep till 8.20am thank god.

Wages? I wish! Wakes I meant

What about the early mornings, it was 3.45 this morning?!?? She was in our bed and just started crying/ giggling/ hitting.. Eurgh :( where's the manual?!

Artemis wow what amazing progress!! well done you and dd. hope it continues.

we had 10-1, then hourly till at 5am she settled herself for another hour! I think she went back to sleep, I certainly did...

Beany if longer nap and early wake up started happening at the same time I would definitely limit her nap. Children need less sleep as they grow, not more! If she was happy and slept through with one hour nap then I'd definitely try to go back to that.

cute thank you, you know sometimes you know what you should be doing, but you doubt yourself because your so tired!
She's had about 10mins nap today, as she fell asleep in the car and woke up when we transferred her, and wouldn't go back down.. So if she sleeps through tonight I award everyone here
And if she doesn't sleep through? Il see you in the morning!

Yes... Or you decide you are going to do something differently tonight but still do the same thing as you always do... Or wake up on the morning and think "why on earth I did/didn't do that?"

I have a question about teething. Is it always preceded by red swollen gums? Or not necessarily? DS has been very moany/fussy/irritable today (and yesterday too now that I think about it), but no red gums or other symptoms. He does have what looks like edges of teeth erm... shining (?) through the top gums. I'm not sure they just appeared today as I never looked so attentively, I only ever looked for red gums. It's just the lack of other symptoms (except dribbling for the last 2 months if not longer) and also because it's top teeth as opposed to bottom that makes me think maybe I'm imagining things...

He feeds ok but after the feed he starts to moan. And as I was typing it he touched his cheek while moaning as well

He hasn't got any teeth yet so I'm clueless! Any ideas?

Oh and he also was yawning a lot today but some of his yawns look a bit different, more like frowns?

cute my ds was king whinger for a few days prior to teeth appearing, red cheek & dribbly but that's all. I couldn't see anything but could feel the sharp edge as it came through.

Hello new joiners.

Artemis wow, wow, wow! Progress! Fantastic news, so pleased for you.

Back soon

Waves to the two Cakes and Artimes. Had been hoping you three might have disappeared by now. I've spotted Tierdemma on a couple of other threads.

The bastard 9 month regression is so far not as hellish as the 4 month one. Mind you it would have to go some to beat it. Up for 3 feeds between midnight and six. Teeth are now playing a part and with all the rapid development recently I think her brain is doing overtime.

Just as well she is cute. My DH is pretty good. Especially since he is still in the spare room but moaning about the uncomfy mattress.

Another 4 months and I'm back at work. That'll be fun if this regression lasts as long as the last one.

Onwards and upwards.

Sorry Artemis, the tiredness has knackered my spelling. Sounds like things are improving, hurray.

Evening all
Well for the first time in ages DS slept for over 3 hours last night, and tonight has gone to bed and NOT woken 30 minutes later for a feed!! Woohoo!!

Oohh, fingers crossed mirrhi !!!

Artemis perseverance is paying off, you absolutely deserve some kip lady!

Hi beany and welcome, I still can't work out whether its better to have had a good sleeper who is regressed or not. DS regressed from a pretty poor starting point so it just got worse

Hi soup yes we also thought we may have been paroled from this sentence by now, obviously we're too badly behaved

Can't recall LO's various ages here and I'm no expert with a dreadful sleeper to boot but my ds was a VERY frequent waker from birth to 6 months, he took big feeds every time. He grew massively in that time, having plumetted down the centiles after birth. He's now back following the line he was at birth. He was hungry, despite what every armchair expert told me. I would feed, feed, feed the tiny ones, they wake as they need something, even if its a cuddle. But then I'm a soft touch.

Anyhoo....ds in bed at 730, asleep by 745, no wake up yet. Its a godamned miracle I tell you! He's stirred 3 times, even been up on hands and knees a few times, but went back off and now still asleep! Not sure what it means, can he self settle now? He sleeps on his front now, sometimes facing away from monitor. It gives me the jitters.

He's still asleep. And I seem to have developed insomnia. You can't make this shit up.

Cake, looks like you and Artemis have something in common How did the rest of the night go?

Btw my DS did the same thing - he was born just below 25th centile and by 4 months he was halfway between 2nd and the lowest one, whatever that is. In a month he managed to get back onto the 2nd. I hope his weight will keep improving. I keep thinking that the fact that he's such a small baby is partially to blame for his bad sleep...

Mirrhi good you had some improvement, how did the red of the night go?

DS again slept 9.15-12, then woke up hourly (even twice an hour between 1 & 2), so I gave in at 3.30 and took him into the bed with me. He slept till 7!

Why on earth I kept torturing myself till 5/6 am to cosleep? Will do it as soon as I realise it's hourly wakings from now on!

cute have you considered cosleeping all night? it makes no difference here but I would if it did.

wakes at 10.30, 12.30, 2.30, 5. so not hugely dreadful. I am trying to take her off the boob earlier than she wants and put her down awake. I swear she did wake and self settle one time last night.

cake last week one night my mum took over and decided to give me a break and ff without me knowing. so she didn't get me till 3.30 but I hardly slept till then waiting to be got. ridiculous

Keep I still want to give him a chance to sleep in his bed, so I'll be putting him into the crib at first and take it from there. I would rather not co-sleep as I don't find it particularly comfortable but better that than no sleepat all. Hopefully as he starts sleeping longer stretches the time we'll be cosleeping will reduce.

For some reason I always thought that if you bf and cosleep they would wake up even more often and just keep snacking all night, but looks like it's not always the case! Of course he'll not always do 3h stretches when sleeping with me, but it still is better than trying to stay awake whilst feeding and putting him back into his bed every hour. It seems like he still needs that closeness and reassurance that I'm there soI'll just roll with it!

How often can you apply Dentinox teething gel? I stupidly threw away the leaflet...