The dreaded SLEEP REGRESSION support and solidarity thread!

[Tiredemma]

Here we are. Sleep deprived, emotional and craving all things sugary just to survive the day.

bah.

Oh my god how hard is this encouraging them to self-soothe!! I fear if I don't do this I will never get an evening back but it's so hard it's like CIO really which I kind of didn't really want to do but now I've started seems even crueller to stop but he has been crying for nearly 15mins now - how long before you abandon it??

This is very stressful & upsetting!

Joining you in the stress camp Boo
Last night DS slept for 3 hours (including one quick resettle) after I put him down at 7.30. Tonight, not so lucky. He fell asleep really quickly, which to be fair he often does, then woke at 8.00 and DP is still trying to resettle him. So far he's having none of it, he's just getting more wound up and if he keeps going he'll make himself sick. I have a feeling I may end up feeding him to sleep

These tiny humans love to keep us on our toes don't they? - how can things be so different from one night to the next?

Hello....same old story here, went to sleep, woke 20 mins later, inconsolable crying, coughing, hiccups, sick. Brilliant. Co sleep, again.

Oh god we need the people who have had success to post again to try & explain how they did it!! I can't help but wonder if there's a certain amount of luck of the draw with these baby's although tonight I'm blaming DP as he is much more highly strung than I am!!!

No change here either. Although on a different note no one slept in our house last night, we have a prob with the felt on our roof and with the wind last night I thought I had a stadium full of vuvuzela players in my bedroom horrific!

Back off that tangent - DS for the last 2 nights fell asleep in pram downstairs with us at 7.30pm, this would be a good future bedtime to aim for, buuuuut, he wakes like clockwork precisely 45mins later, why? Then he'll go over again at about 8.40 and wake screaming for bottle at 9, as if by magic there he is awake 9pm on the button. I just don't get him!

No point putting him upstairs at 7.30? I know I need the exercise but I'd be up & down like a yo-to til 9pm. At a loss what to do just posted on jo tantum Q&A.

We have angel care movement monitor but false alarmed that many times for DD (not nice in the wee small hours!) I'm not sure we'll use the sensor pad for DS when he ventures into his own room.

I am starting to wonder if it's a temperature issue at night? As DS naps well in the day when the house is warmer, he's fully clothed and has a blanket over him in the pram. At night just a long sleeved vest, babygro and 2.5tog sleeping bag though room never goes below 18degrees. Wouldn't it be great if there was a simple solution like make him warmer? I am paranoid about him overheating though........mind you he doesn't nap for longer than two hours during the day, so maybe not.

I think 18 degrees is the 'ideal' temperature for a baby's room, from what I can remember of antenatal classes. My DS wears the same and until his sleep went generally tits up he was fine in that amount of clothing.

After 2 & a half exasperating hours trying to settle him we've given up and DP has taken him downstairs so I can try to get some sleep. He's been hard to settle for his naps all day, so I guess I should have seen this coming. Hating this sleep regression with a fucking passion now.

I posted at the peak of my ds's screaming earlier he is snoring now I think he is getting a cold like we need that thrown into the mix!! Keep persevering I guess is all we can do it's very tiring though & as I've posted before I do feel rotten for ds1 as he isn't getting half the attention he used to get!! We don't have any family around us to help out the odd afternoon or even the odd hour here or there which makes it harder & makes me feel even more pressure at times to be wonderful mother, doting grandmas & aunties all in one!!

Fingers crossed for a good night for everyone I'm not holding my breath I'm proud of myself for ebf my ds as it's been such a commitment (dp unable to help with feeds etc) but I do still always wonder how much he has fed whether he could still be hungry etc but then there are people eff who aren't having an easy ride of it either!!

We are strong women stay optimistic ladies!!!

I think someone has been slipping my baby coffee today without me seeing!
DP brought him up fast asleep,about half an hour later he was wide awake. I'm now BFing him, again, and thinking co-sleeping might be the only answer tonight. I don't usually resort to that til at least 3am! This has been by far the most challenging day/night we've had since his sleep first went wonky

Noisy similar here. We are on the 5th wake up since getting her to bed at 7. DP settled her a couple of times, but she stayed down for no more than 30 mins. Currently BFing. I'm sure teeth are in the mix somewhere, her gums feel sharp and she keeps nipping me. Otherwise we've done nothing different to the previous night when she only had one wake up in the same time period. It's just so random!

Not sure if it was the persevering getting him to fall asleep in his cot or coincidence but I was fairly lucky ds gave in & stopped howling at 8.30 he didn't wake then til 1 (which by our standards is really good) then I managed to get him back in cot at 1.45 til 4.15 then I must admit bit naughty but I didn't bother putting him back in I just co slept/ fed on & off til ds1 came running up to us at 6.50!!

Did others little ones settle eventually?

We had 6 wake ups last night. 6. Ludicrous. After 1 the night before. I fed her at 11 and 3 but DP was a star (albeit a grumpy one) and got up to settle her the other times. It's like rehab, this baby sleep thing, you can only ever take it one day/night at a time. We did nothing different yesterday apart from she had a proper nap at lunchtime. I thought that was supposed to help!

A semi-miracle happened for us last night. DD slept from 10.30 to 4.30 without waking up!! I confess I did check her breathing at 3.45 to see if she was ok. We have had mainly hourly wakings for the past 4 months. After 4.30 it was 2 hourly wakings, so a total of 4, which is amazing for her. The only thing different I did was place bongela on her gums before bedtime, as her tooth is cutting through and she seemed in more pain than usual (usually I use the gentler teetha gel). So I don't know if its that or just luck!

Same here! As in, I coaxed a long nap out of ds in the afternoon but it took til midnight to finally get him settled! Maybe his nap was too late...
Anyway he slept from 12 till just after 3, when I brought him into bed to feed and I think he slept for about another 3 hours til the next one. That counts as a good night for us at the moment!
We've got a doctors appointment later. I'm clutching at straws I'm sure but I just want to rule out any ear issues, as he does pull at his right ear a lot and he's really snuffly. I've assumed it's teething so far but won't hurt to check.

Oops, cross posted with you Ginger. That's good news about your DD!

How did your doctors appointment go noisybrain?

Well the good news is DS's ears are fine thanks. The bad news is that this means I don't have an easy explanation for his worsening sleep!!

The doctor was very sympathetic and told me his first dd was a terrible sleeper, which is why they had a big gap between her and her sister, lol.

Hmmm he is gaining weight I presume? How old is he again?

I must admit a health visitor I knew once through work said the hardest thing with baby's sometimes is accepting there isn't always a reason for everything & therefore not always a solution!!!!! Trial & error I guess & taking it a day (or dreaded night) at a time! There are people who appear to have left this thread due to such marked improvement in their dc's sleeping so there is hope!

Also I know a woman from baby classes whose ds isn't much older than mine (5months) who has just announced she is pregnant baby's/ children could be in same school year!!!

Yes his weight gain has been fine (I'm going to the clinic for a weigh in tomorrow as it happens). He's also 5 months. The slide downhill sleep-wise began when he turned 18 weeks.

OMG I can't even imagine having children that close together!

booville
my aunt found out she was pregnant at her 6 week check.

both boys were horrendous

Blimey I have 3 years 9 months between my two don't know if I would have managed them any closer than this yet people tell me it's quite a big gap!!! Like I've posted before we have no family live near by so it's all down to me & DP (well mainly me as DP a workaholic!!) I imagine it would be very nice to have grandma popping round to help with nursery runs etc but hey ho!

Artemis - how are you getting on today? Everything crossed for you for a better night tonight!!!

Noisy 18 weeks was when it started to slide for us too, properly awful from about 20wks.

Boo thanks for asking! It's been a day of nap fails again, she's had about an hour in total in the pram / car, but has been pretty chirpy all day. Currently BFing to sleep (hopefully anyway!) and will see what this night brings. I have no expectations any more!

How is everyone else? Cakebaby I thought of you today when I read this - just look at the photo they used to illustrate the article - whoever chose that has never co slept!! www.telegraph.co.uk/health/children_shealth/8854674/Babies-should-sleep-in-mothers-bed-until-age-three.html

Another one here with a friend who found out she was preg at 6 week check - and her first was concieved through 3rd attempt ivf so a very big shock!

Forgot to say - for me sleep went pear shaped at 13 weeks and started to consistently (ie 5 nights out of 7) improve at 19 weeks. Only thing different was cutting out dairy and stop trying to give bottles.