The dreaded SLEEP REGRESSION support and solidarity thread!

[Tiredemma]

Here we are. Sleep deprived, emotional and craving all things sugary just to survive the day.

bah.

i'm still lurking
We now think our sleep shite is to do with teething. Dd got dosed up on calpol last night, slept well (no wake ups or wriggling etc) till feed at 22.30. Woke up screaming in next sleep cycle (12am), more calpol & when it kicked in, same good sleep. Continued all night with only waking for 3 hourly feeds.

Off to pharmacy tomorrow to get more calpol & ibuprofen to alternate.

Welcome nibbysmum

welcome kiki and nibby

We're still here, bed time not such a battle in the last few nights & he's stayed in cot until I've gone to bed but then he can't settle in the co sleeper crib, has to move 6" to the left to be happy.

Still waking 1-1.5 hrs after I put him down, same all night except last night he slept from 3-6, I could have cried with relief. I've not had 3 hrs since well before Xmas. Think we are hampered by teething too but it feels like this is the new normal...

Cake baby & Cinderelly - how old are your baby's - I know you will have said in previous posts but I'm too tired to scroll back through them all!! My eyes are stinging with exhaustion tonight!!

Ds will be 22 wks in a few days

I'm terrible I can't even think how old my ds is in weeks now but 4 n a half months - born mid sept so that's similar yes??? Feel like I've had him a lot longer & like I've not slept in years haha!!!

Friends are telling me not to follow the "rules" & put him in his own room but I don't feel comfortable with this yet plus I can't see how it will make him sleep any better just his cries will be more distant!

I've also been told DS might sleep better in his own room. Think it relates to baby not being able to smell mum when he/she wakes (just how whiffy are we mums?!).

However, as I've mentioned, my baby's increased night waking appears due to hunger the vast majority of the time, so I also can't see the point right now as surely he'd still wake up hungry no matter where he was.

DP has been trying to settle him for half an hour. I can't believe this but he sounds like he might actually be crying for food. He only finished a 7oz bottle an hour ago!! I may have to go and offer boob...

Well noisybrain I'm so confused with my ds I'm convinced the bulk of his night wakings are due to needed me for comfort to help get him back into a deep sleep, compared to lots on this ever growing thread I am lucky he goes back to sleep with my boob in his mouth easily (rarely does he scream) but I also hear a lot of mums saying their baby's are only waking once or twice a night now (at a similar age to ds)!

I know there isn't always an explanation for everything & there is no option but to go with it but it's so very exhausting!! I have a four yr old ds as well & I feel so terribly guilty on him we don't do all of the things we used to together & he gets to watch more tv than ever before - I can definitely see why older siblings would resent new additions to the family but I can't be the only mum with a toddler & a baby who feels she is struggling can I?!?!

Also it is very common for baby's to cluster feed at some point in the day/ night which sounds like your ds is doing saving himself for this time of evening/ night - it's often a natural instinct to start trying to up his milk supply (from the breast)

I'm not ready for ds to go in his own room yet. (He's quietly murmuring in his sleep beside me, little hand on my chest ). He'll still wake but be further away! He is ravenous atm, i'm trying to go with it and get as much sleep as we can.

I'm back.
Been up 3 times to dd already...going to be a long night

Welcome back.... Here have from

Why you

It seems as if children of are just not fans of sleeping!

Really wish I has had bought one of those co sleeping cots - has anyone heard of them/ used them?? They attach directly to your bed that would have made the last 4 + months although maybe he would be even worse that close to me all night but I do think if you can sleep that way co sleeping seems to be the only way to get a decent stretch of kip!

Oh dear cakeismymaster think how toned those legs of yours will be up &
Down those stairs!!

I've got a co sleeper crib, attached to my side,still not good enough for ds, has to be in my bed 6" closer. Admittedly it has been fab

I wish I had bought the co sleeper too! There's no chance LO is going to go into cot, better off selling it off now

Boo I hadn't considered this could be cluster feeding

He was under 6lbs at birth and cluster fed like a little demon morning and evening in his early weeks to claw himself up the weight chart. The evening cluster feed carried on for weeks and weeks. Come to think of it maybe this night waking did restart about the time the evening frenzy slowed down. I'd happily feed him more in the evening again if it meant getting my sleep back!!
I really feel for those of you trying to look after toddlers too x

Just a thought as well fellow breast feeders you need an extra 500 calories a day to keep that milk production going!!

Can I join? I'm at my wits end with my 15 week old DD. Not sure it's 4 month "regression" as she not quite 4 months, and frankly hasn't got much to actually regress from - but sleep is just not happening here. She is FF and we follow a good routine so I feel we are giving her the best possible chance to sleep well. She has other ideas. She goes down well at 7pm and during the night she doesn't seem to be hungry (we have offered) and will settle quickly with the (sodding) dummy - but wakes every 45-60 minutes throughout the night. We feel we have tried so many things but it just seems to get worse. She spends most of her days crying too so it's really starting to get on top of me and daily emails from girls I met at ante natal saying how well their baby sleeps are making me want to slit my wrists. This thread reassures me we aren't alone, but I feel sick at the thought that this could go on for weeks. I am counting down the days till she is 6 months and we can do some kind of sleep training - it seems like that's all that's left to try :-(

I don't have much knowledge of FF but I've heard of people having to
Change their babies onto special comfort formula?? There seems to be lots of comments on this thread re reflux as well - how is your baby's weight gain?? I'm not having the same problems in that my ds doesn't scream he just wakes frequently & can't sleep without my boob in his mouth it's very exhausting!!

For whoever asked...my dd is 19 weeks & been going thru this since xmas.

winespider sounds like regression. We were same. Not much to regress from.

Turns out our nightmare was teething too. Which is continuing.

Same as Cindy here - dd is 19 weeks and been going on since Xmas.
However, I'm seeing some light as about 1 in 3 nights are now better - despite having to go up to her 3 times by 9.30 pm, she then only woke at 12.30 and 5.30! Was quite in shock! So I will take the fussiness initially if it means she will stick to 2 wake ups.

How was everyone's night?
DS finality settled at about 10, then woke at 12.30 so I gave him a good long feed and waited till he was pretty much asleep before putting him back down at 1.15. He then went til 3.40, which is actually an improvement on recent nights! At that point I brought him into bed with me to feed because I was so tired. I think he went a couple of hours til he next woke but it was very frequent after that. At least I slept in between, which was the point of having him in bed. I wouldn't say I feel refreshed, but slightly less destroyed perhaps!
This morning DS has been showing off his rolling over skills. I daren't hope that this could mark the end period of the regression (everything I've read about it says that it's often triggered by baby developing a new skill). He's also very hungry.

Hello, can I join in too?

My DS is 16 weeks old and rarely sleeps for more than 40 minutes without waking up. I am going absolutely crazy.

We have a good "routine". Up at 7am, morning nap at 9am, longer nap over lunchtime, cat-nap at 4ish and "down for the night" at 7pm. Night feeds at 11pm and (sometimes) 4am.

That would all be fantastic IF he didn't wake every 30/40 minutes during his naps and the night. He doesn't want to play, he just cries and needs help getting back to sleep. Sometimes it is obviously trapped wind but usually there is no obvious reason (moving through stages of the sleep cycle?). And now in the last few days he has been learning to roll so now he also wakes up because he finds himself stranded on his stomach...

We usually put him down sleepy but still awake, and try to resettle him with the minimum possible intervention, ie shush-pat rather than immediately snuggling. He usually will go back to sleep quite quickly, but nonetheless I am going absolutely mad.

I wouldn't dream of doing CC, but I am running out of ideas. Starting to feel really depressed about the lack of sleep, it is just so unbelievably painful.

Any ideas?

Welcome wine and Georgie

wine those people LIE about their good sleepers!

georgie my ds had a run of 20-40 min wakings, not pretty but it all changes quickly just to keep you on your toes!

boo same problem here, ds will not nod off unless boob inserted in gob. Any idea how to put a stop to it other than cold turkey?

Ds has a new habit of 4am poo you can set your watch by. Nicely awake after nappy change....sigh