The dreaded SLEEP REGRESSION support and solidarity thread!

[Tiredemma]

Here we are. Sleep deprived, emotional and craving all things sugary just to survive the day.

bah.

Morning all welcome new joiners and commiserations re joiners!

Just a quick post, no change here, still knackered, still won't go to bed or stay asleep, still won't stop feeding. May need to consider weaning a few weeks earlier.

Can't recall who asked (on phone so can't go back) but if you hit 'flip' at top of thread you get most recent post first or hit 'last' for most recent page

Morning ladies!

cake DD has suddenly started appearing quite ravenous at 10-11pm and taking a 6oz bottle. I too am considering whether its time to consider some weaning??

Is the general theme here keep persevering with putting them back into their cots? I see the bulk of us are breast feeding I think this makes them more dependant on us for comfort as well as nourishment!

My sisters dd2 had reflux often lost weight or remained the same, the baby gaviscon didn't help, nursing elevated, baby massage - nothing worked!! Once she started weaning rice etc "heavier" foods she began to improve!!

Just have to keep telling ourselves it's not forever & then will be a whole new set of problems to worry about!!

For those of you considering weaning to improve sleep, please don't expect miracles. My Ds is 20 weeks, started weaning at 17 due to reflux. Although Ds has taken really well to solids, it hasn't really helped dramatically with reflux and certainly not with sleep. Every baby is different of course but I'd consider it carefully :).

Evenin....we've reached a horrid new low tonight. Ds had an early night as a nap ended early this afternoon. Put to bed but got a 2nd wind & howled

Godamn phone

Uncontrollably for an hour even after I'd given up and gone to bed with him to shut him up. He still cried on and off the boob which is usually a fail safe option. I even gave him some calpol as I began to wonder if he was in pain. So I have been in bed since 715, now have a snoring infant tucked under my armpit, flask of luke warm tea, eating leftover Xmas chocolate and mnetting in the dark.

Anyone beat that for a night in?!

Evening all, still here and another one already having a crap night. Been trying to get DD off since 6.45. After a bad night last night, with multiple long wake-ups and inability to resettle her after 4am, DP and I have agreed we can't take much more and need to do something, just don't know what .

Have also been wondering about weaning, DD is 24 weeks and showing all the signs, but we are on day 6 of some kind of tummy virus that involves frequent bright green mucusy nappies. The GP said that unless she gets dehydrated there is nothing they can/will do, but it definitely isn't helping her sleep having to change nappies after practically every feed especially as she usually feeds to sleep. I don't want to start weaning until her digestion is back to normal but it seems these things can go on for a while. For every person who has told me weaning helped their baby sleep through the night there's another who found it led to random digestive rumblings and further disturbed sleep.

cakebaby we resorted to calpol too after random crying both on and off boob... Impressed that you actually have leftover xmas chocolate at the end of January!

Sympathies Artemis its shit isn't it? Re the chocolate, its more a reflection on how much we bought rather than any willpower issue

Nearly end of tether here too, phoned HV for advice 2 weeks ago, we keep missing each other since, good job I'm not at the end of my rope isn't it?! Doubt there'll be any real advice. Going to email that place I pm'd you about after i've spoken to HV tomorrow, or not as it may turn out. This can't go on, we're all exhausted, particularly poor ds.

This all started during our 3 week d&v virus before xmas, courtesy of dh bringing it home from work. And today he had the fucking cheek to say I didn't seem that happy with life since ds and that he told me it would be hard. I was speechless.

Oh god Cakebaby that is beyond unhelpful from your DH. Has he been leaving you to it just so that he could say 'I told you so'? That's ridiculous.

I am in a slightly better place than before with DP after a discussion this evening but we are no nearer knowing what to do, just that we have to do something. There are many of us on mn with similes issues but the number whose DCs are 9 and 10 months old scares me. I can't do 4 more months like this and it doesn't seem likely to miraculously alter on its own.

Am also considering some kind of sleep consultancy but need to convince DP it would be worth the cost, so would be interested to hear how you get on.

In the meantime I'm feeding dd back to sleep again & trying to decide if I should put her down next to me or risk the cot...

Hi everyone, here we are again! Settled dd easily at 7 then re settled at 8 then impossible to settle since 930! Managed to get her to sleep on me then woke after half an hour when back in cot. I am sure she's uncomfy-she's been arching her back when put back in cot and raising legs in the air. I've put her on her tummy now and she's slept for half an hour. I don't like her sleeping like this though as her rolling isn't great.

Feeling similar to many others in that we need to do something but what? Considered sleep consultant but not sure if will get anymore out of it than the numerous books I've read. Also keep thinking that if she's uncomfy then sleep training won't help.

Spending all my time obsessing about this and am tired of it all. Grrr.

Every. Goddamn. Fucking. Hour.

Well I had a slightly better night than the previous. We went cold turkey without the dummy yesterday and it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be! Though I'm not getting complacent just yet.

And to be honest the quality of his sleep was so much better, I was constantly checking he was still breathing as he was so quiet! He usually grunts and groans half the night.

Inevitably he woke up sucking his fingers at 1:30am and again at 2am so I decided to cosleep - figured it's probably best to tackle just one habit at a time!

Sorry to hear of bad nights elsewhere!

btheb have you tried putting LO on their side? My DS is much better like that (reflux and terrible wind) and doesn't grunt as much.

Hi Gerty1002 no i haven't tried that. How do you get them positioned on their side? Do you need to prop with something?

b I think discomfort is part of the issue here. DD seems to hate being flat on her back. She's much better in her pram now it's set up as a pushchair rather than with the carrycot and we can get her to do a couple of hours in her cot as long as she's not flat. I've got one of those C shaped BFing pillows and she seems more comfy put down on that, so that her head and feet are slightly raised, with another pillow at the side to complete the circle. It's not what you're supposed to do and it means I spend half the night bobbing up and down checking she hasn't somehow wriggled under the pillow but at least she sleeps. She did nearly 3 hours like that before waking after we finally got her down last night (after 2.5 hours of trying. The sleep to effort ratio seems all wrong!). I wonder if her sleep will improve when she's more mobile and able to find more comfortable positions without help

Cindy I'm gutted for you. I really hoped the improvements would stick.

Glad to hear about a better night Gerty! Cakebaby how was yours?

DD was a nightmare (for me anyway) last night.

She now has a bloody cold, was hungry at 3am so fed and then she coughed, retched and brought it all back up.

Btheb I don't think it's so much rolling that matters it's head control whether they can lift their head well & move it from side to side, also if they are on a firm mattress it's less worrying, I put ds on his tummy last night & he slept for 4 hours in one go, it's like a miracle - it may be coincidence but I would try him like it again for sure.

Bah. After the shenanigans and crying, he woke at 2230, 0030, 0205, 0330, 0430 for an hour, up at 7.

I do not know the answer. He was SO distressed last night, it was dreadful. He nodded off 30 mins after calpol so not sure if he was poorly (temp normal) or it was coincidence. He fell asleep fine in my arms and went in cot, waking briefly so he knew where he was. Slept for 10 mins & woke in hysterics.

Commiserations to all. It's hard to face the day with the enthusiasm of a giggling 21 week old, isn't it?

Every 2 hours here and a couple of times less than that but I was harsh mummy and would not feed her of under 2 hrs.

btheb I find he stays quite nicely on his side in the foetal position now, but I use a large rolled up blanket propped behind him. He sometimes turns onto his back when he wakes up but I just roll him back and tuck the blanket back round him.

He's not rolling over yet though, he could probably get onto his tummy from this position if he really wanted to (though never does) so I also use a smaller rolled up blanket (breathable) at his front but really only around his legs so he doesn't end up chewing on it in the night.

I also end up checking on him constantly.

I am anticipating a night of sheer hell.

DD has been horrendous all day- miserable, whiny. Gnawing on fists, dribbling etc etc. Refusing milk so will obviously spend the entire night crying and hungry.

Same here emma and will add un put down-able to your list, my back is ruined

Oh no...you two left the thread too! Wouldnt be suprised if you've got teeth on the way Emma

Commiserations all around!
No improvement here. I had one night when DD slept for 4 hours (and then kept waking up every hour afterwards:( Last night was terrible, I lost count of the number of times DD was up and feeding every time.
She's 6 months tomorrow!
She feeds to sleep, there is no drowsy but awake phase, her naps are shit... I'm exhausted and keep eating all day so I'll no doubt come back home looking like a whale:(
Once I'm back home I'll see whether I can go back to giving DD a bottle of expressed bm before bed time like we used to do... Fingers crossed it works!