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What worked for us. Hope this helps.

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nectarina · 29/01/2012 21:03

This post is going to be massive - no apologies however.

So I've posted at least 5 queries about DD's sleep and read about 1 billion threads, because DD only napped for 30mins in the day, would only BF to sleep (since a newborn I wanted to get out of the habit, but nothing else did it). She spent the first 5 months in her cot, only for us to end up co-sleeping so we could get a bit of rest. She would BF every 2 hours at least in the night, and by the end she'd wake every half hour before we went to bed. I knew I couldn't do CC/CIO, I'm not strong enough even if I thought that was the right thing to do, but I thought that I would be forced to if things carried on the way they were.

We read No Cry Sleep Solution, which is complicated and didn't work for us.

So a friend had tried a technique, that she recommended and I thought that it was too much of a leap for DD, but i kept the email, and one evening I sort of snapped and decided that IT WAS TIME. DD was 8 1/2months. I don't know from what age this technique is recommended, but I don't think I'd have wanted to do this earlier, as you still have to cope with the baby crying. I knew DD was ready because now she quite clearly has two cries - one properly sad and scared, the other a bit shouty and put on, so when doing this technique you know what's going on (but I'd like to add that I still comforted DD when she was shouty - she's still trying to say something, but I deÞ nitely wouldn't pick her up and panic!)

I'll paste her email to me, hoping she won't mind. We didn't do it in the ten days, as it was just a bit too much, but i wonder if the way we did it made things a bit complicated. So I recommend doing it as laid out.

But now DD takes 20mins to fall asleep by herself (with one of us in her room) in her cot, in her room. and I do not feed at all between 7pm and 7am. Dh goes in in the night and he gives her water in case she's thirsty but she's quite happy without. It takes him no more than about 3mins to resettle her (unless ill).

After starting this at the beginning of January she still wakes up once or twice a night but it doesn't affect me as I wear earplugs and DH goes in! ha ha ha! (I still hear her and wake up, but I don't wake up fully and find it difFicult to go back to sleep) Do I need to tell you how I feel like a different woman?

So here's the email -

^"Ok, this is a plan thing that we first tried with dc1 when we got to the point where we knew something had to change. There seems to come a point where not only do you get tired of 'helping' your baby get to sleep, but whatever you do seems to work less and less - as if they know something has to change too! It takes a bit of work for about ten days or so but mostly the first couple of days you really put your back into it and then it gets easier. I remember vaguely doing it with dc1 and have just rediscovered it with Dc2 she is a bit of a firecracker so I was expecting trouble but babies love to learn something new, especially around this age and she only woke once last night despite having a cold, which is a HUGE improvement. Dc1 found this very easy and never shed a tear. Dc2 screamed 'TRAITOR!!' at me many times during the first night (she does that a lot), so I'm not saying that there won't be some crying because you will be doing something different to before but you don't have to leave her side and can reassure her as much as you need to, physically and verbally.
The idea is that you are no longer going to help her go to sleep - in whatever way - if you rock her, feed her, jiggle her, whatever it is. You can be there and reassure her but it is no longer your job to MAKE her go to sleep. It is your job to support her whilst she does it herself.
First of all, you know that thing that everyone says about having a bedtime routine (which I imagine you already have) is utterly true. By the time they are a toddler, the sound of a running bath is enough to set the bedtime clock going. When you choose to do this thing, it is really important to stick to your bedtime routine without fail for the ten days and it needs to be between 20 and 45 minutes long. Also, this plan also applies to naps, so you need to be able to be at home for naptimes - just until Dd has the thing established - ten days usually does it. Lastly, you are aiming for Dd to be in bed by 7ish in the evening and not much later. If you're like me you're knackered by about half four, so starting bedtime at a quarter past six is no trouble. You've probably done all that so on to the plan. I'll do bedtimes first and then naps.

Day 1, 2 and 3 - Place a chair right next to the cot. Make it a comfortable chair, you may get to know it fairly well. Have a duvet, cushions, iphone, book to hand. Do your bedtime routine and put Dd in the cot awake. She may well not know what to do next and try all sorts of things. If she stands up you can gently pop her back down again but only a few times - if she insists on standing for a bit then let her - it may just be one of those things she incorporates into her own burgeoning routine, and I daresay she is capable of getting back down again by now. You can pat the bed to let her know you want her to lie down. Sooner or later she is likely to sit down for a bit and eventually plop on to her front. She has to find her own way through this so she may try eating her blanket or playing with a toy before she lies down - that's up to her. If she cries, you can pat her and speak to her. As long as you remember that your patting and comforting is not there to get her to sleep, just to help her calm down in this new and confusing situation so as soon as she starts to settle, lighten your touch with a view to taking your hand off her, and stop speaking. She may go back and forth a bit needing you to touch and speak to her a few more times, but each time lessen your touch when she has settled. Stay there until she has fallen fast asleep and creep out. This bit can take ten minutes for some babies, but most fall asleep after 45 minutes. Two hours is the longest on record! I expected Dc2 to be a two hour effort but no - 45 minutes almost exactly. As long as you know that it is going to take that long, you can get through it. When she wakes up in the night, you do exactly the same thing, each and every time. The first few times she wakes, she will probably yell for you, but as she gets the idea that she can drift back to sleep herself, she may just squeak and go back (sounds unlikely? I thought that too.) The idea is that as time goes on you can wait a tiny bit longer before you go in, to give her the opportunity to practise her new skill.

Days 4, 5 and 6 - move the chair a few feet away from the cot. Keep everything else the same except you are further away. Once you have had your bedtime cuddle and put her in the cot sit down. You can still go to her if she really needs you, and you can still speak to her but she may not need as much help by now. Again, wait until she is asleep before you leave. Repeat as often as necessary when she wakes although, again, leave it a few minutes before you go in.

Days 7, 8 and 9 - move the chair to the door or the other side of the room. Make sure she can still see you, but once you have settled her in her cot and gone to the chair try not to go to her unless she has got herself into a daft position and can't get out. By now she will start developing her own strategy to get to sleep, and you will be able to tell what stage she is at, because you've been watching it all the way through.

Day 10 - you have several choices. If you think things are going really well and baby can cope with you not being there you can leave the room and see how she gets on. You can hover by the door out of sight and watch what happens, and reassure her with your voice. If you feel apprehensive about it and think she needs longer you can try the Bustle - instead of sitting down, tinker about in her room, cleaning up or folding washing or whatever. Or you can continue in the chair. The idea of the plan is ultimately for you to be able to plonk and go, but I quite like spending that extra time with DC so I use a mixture of the bustle and the chair. For night wakings you now really have to give her the chance to go back on her own. Wait ten minutes ( I know - such a long time!) before you go in. I got up last night to Þ nd by the time I got to DC's door, she'd already curled up again! That's the main brunt of it. Just bear in mind that the first couple of nights are the worst - she might wake more frequently, but stick at it and you'll see an improvement. The other thing is that when they start sleeping longer in the night they get up properly a bit too early in the morning - but this usually improves over a few weeks as they get the hang of sleeping. I've kind of assumed that you are going to move her into her own room - there's no reason you can't start this as soon as you move her in. If DC get ill and it disrupts her sleep, go back to whichever stage in the plan you think works best. You can sleep in her room if you want to keep an eye on her, but don't bring her in with you.

Naps - Do the same for naps as you do at night times only you can't sit there for as long as it takes - give it an hour and if she hasn't gone to sleep, get her up and feed her or do something different and try again a bit later. If she resists napping like this twice in a day you can resort to taking her out in the buggy or something. just so she gets a bit of sleep in the day. You are aiming at two solid naps a day by the way. If you've started this thing at bedtime the night before, the nap thing is usually not a problem. I can't think of anything else right now! By the way this is based on a Canadian lady's idea. I chose to use it because it doesn't mean leaving a baby to cry. They learn to fall asleep without you intervening, although you might argue that your presence is a sort of intervention, but before long you will find yourself saying goodnight and shutting the door, because she'd not taking any notice of you anymore!" ^

So for us the First night it took 3 hours 10mins, which is why for nightwakings later on that night I just fed her instead of sitting with her. Within the first few nights she woke LOADS less and then DH would go to her and he would just ask her to put her head down and she would and go straight back to sleep. Needless to say that sort of thing just wouldn't happen before. So if I remember rightly it was only after 4 or 5 nights that I stopped feeding her. The other thing we've found a bit hard is waiting a few mins before going in to her when she wakes. We just give it one or two minutes more than we'd usually do instead of waiting 10.

DH would like to add that he thinks the important thing is to teach DC to put their head down and close their eyes - he says' put your head down, put your head down, now close your eyes' and repeats it a bit like a mantra gently until DD does, and then stops as soon as she does what he says. He says for our 9month old that after a week she knows what it means and does what he suggests! He says that this is useful in the night and that's all he needs to do to get her to go back to sleep.

For the first night I recommend a large glass of wine that you take in with you. For the second night, have the bottle waiting for you on the table in the lounge. Also on the first night we both did it together for a bit of moral support and took it in turns but I'm assuming that none of you is as much as a wimp as I am.

I hope this isn't too much of a mess, my friend's writing is very clear, and mine is all over the shop. I'm just a bit enthusiastic about how its gone. I hope this is of use to someone.

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SleepForTheWeek · 18/04/2018 10:13

Sorry for all the typos - Bavaria = babies haha

teainbed · 18/04/2018 16:15

@SleepForTheWeek it fixed the very frequent night wakings very quickly, like within a few days. I would start on a Friday night of a bank holiday weekend or something so you've got plenty of time to nap during the day. Is your partner helping?

Our current problem is very early waking (like waking at 5 for the day Shock) but I understand there's no fix for that so I'm going to bed super early and just running with it. Grin

SleepForTheWeek · 18/04/2018 18:03

@teainbed that's great!! You must be feeling the better for it (apart from the 5am wake ups of course!!)

Yes DH will help although I plan to ge their into a totally set bedtime routine and have her settling well at bedtime for I'll bring DH into and night wean

GeminiWarrior · 19/04/2018 10:09

Hello, I have a six month old who is gradually sleeping less and less. from 2-5 months she slept through the night in her own bed... Took 1.5 hours to get her to sleep in her own cot last night and she was up every 45 mins until I caved and let her co-sleep. Then she slept through until 5 (had a feed) and back down til 7.30.

I am about 90% ready to make the leap of some form of sleep training but in the back of my mind is the ‘what if’ she’s teething/in pain/too hot/too cold/hungrier than normal due to growth spurt...

Anyone else in a similar position with a 6 month old?

GeminiWarrior · 19/04/2018 10:10

I should add she only naps in her pram and used to sleep for 40mins 3-4 times a day but these naps are now lasting approx 18 mins... Brew

SleepForTheWeek · 24/04/2018 22:21

Ok, so after DD2 woke after 30 mins seemingly wide awake (fed to sleep) and my failed attempts of rocking/feeding back to sleep again, 90 mins had passed and she was still awake but so tired I put her in the cot and sat beside her singing and talking to her. She fell asleep after 25-30 mins, a bit of crying but nothing crazy.

Def going to try this at bedtime tomorrow night!

donnaeastman · 25/04/2018 04:32

Thank you for posting about this. This would be a very big help for me.

SleepForTheWeek · 25/04/2018 07:54

Hopefully it works @donnaeastman - keep us updated.

I'm going to try it properly tonight. Will prob still keep her night feeds at the moment though

cooper82 · 11/05/2018 08:36

I have read this post from page to page intensely. The background for me is this.

My DD was a fantastic sleeper from birth to 6 months. At this point, we transitioned her into her cot which didn't go down well. Then came sickness, tummy bugs and teething.....lots of teething (8 teeth in 5 months).
The end result has been that ever since the transition to her own room, my wife has fed my DD to sleep. If my DD woke in between the hours of 7-12, I would go into her room, pick her up and cuddle her back to sleep. When your baby has been poorly, its only natural that you do this.

My DD is 10.5 months now. For the last 2.5 weeks, we are swapped the bedtime routine round where instead of my wife feeding my DD and putting her down to sleep, I have read her a book and some milk in a sippy cup. My wife has still fed her, but in the living room, with the TV on so that she doesn't associate the feed with bedtime. Its just a top up on what she has eaten for dinner. We thought this change would have caused a major set of tears but it hasn't.
Over the last couple of weeks now, my daughter has either fallen asleep on my lap to the bedtime stories, or has been very sleepy and just needed a cuddle before I put her down in her cot.

At all times however, over the course of the last 5 months, my daughter has been asleep before going into the cot.
On average, my DD will be down in her cot from about 7:15pm. Sometimes, she will wake 30 mins later and need picked up and cuddled. This takes no more than 5 mins.
At this point on, she usually sleeps until 1am, 2am or 3am. At this point as I have to work, my wife gets up to tend to my DD. It usually involves her BF'ing to calm my DD down. Sometime, despite the feed, my DD is still very restless.

Overall, before any sleep training, I would say we are up twice on average a night totally 2 hours.
Reading some of the comments on this post, it would appear my DD is not the worst sleeper. But we feel my DD could do with a tweak.
Now that illnesses and teething are gone (for the moment), we have come to the realisation, that our DD who used to sleep through the night, now cannot be put into her bed to self settle.
We have spoken to a sleep expert and they have suggested the gradual retreat method.

On one hand, we are ready to try this and hope that it helps.
On the other hand, we are worried we make the situation worse.
I've decided to do the nights for the next 5 days. To simply try and break the night routine where she smells mum and expects fed.
Watch this space. We begin tonight. I will keep you all posted on progress.

cooper82 · 11/05/2018 08:37

How old is your baby? How did things go since you posted this?

cooper82 · 11/05/2018 08:38

@sleepfortheweek - How old is your baby? How did things go since you posted this?

Magpiefeather · 14/05/2018 20:13

Hello! I have been a committed mumsnet lurker for years but I have finally joined so that I can post on this thread, I just had to say

THANK YOU.

I was at my wits end with our always-rocked-to-sleep almost 12 month old DD’s sleeping habits. We had tried CC but she ended up being inconsolable and it was clearly too big a leap for her. I had heard of gradual withdrawal / disappearing chair but didn’t know specifics. If I hadn’t read this thread and your very clear explanation of it, OP, I think I would have failed with it. I needed the structure set out for me I think, and as soon as I read the OP and all of the success stories I felt confident that I could do it for DD in a calm, consistent and clear way.

The results were instant. I was amazed. From night 1. I can’t believe it. She had never gone to sleep independently in her life, but she was asleep after 25 minutes. She woke in the night but got herself back to sleep with no crying and no intervention from us. She slept later in the morning (usually up at 5) and the improvements keep coming. Naps have been great too. I am just so grateful, my back couldn’t take any more walking up and down bouncing and rocking her to sleep.

I know this is an old thread, but I only found it because people have posted on here more recently. So I thought I would add our success story here. Another desperate parent might find it, just like I did, just at the right time.

I also wanted to say to any parents of older babies (ours is almost 12 months), don’t be afraid you have left it “too late” to sleep train! I thought we had as lots of people seem to do it between 6-9 months on these boards. Having begun I now think for us it has been EASIER not harder now DD is older, more independent in general and also crucially understands a lot of what we are saying.

Anyway this is our sleep training tale so far.

We reached the point where we all knew something had to give. DD is almost 12 months and has always been fed or rocked to sleep, then put down in her cot asleep. She wasn’t the worlds worst sleeper - I am thankful for that! - but her sleep problems were still slowly destroying me (and my back, all that walking up and down rocking a very heavy baby has taken its toll). Mostly what prompted us to sleep train was that the rocking and feeding to sleep was no longer working anyway, and as the OP’s friend was saying in the original email, it seemed as if DD herself even knew something had to change.

Before sleep training, DD’s sleep “problems” were:

  • being fed or rocked to sleep and transferred to cot only when asleep
  • Waking 1 or 2 times a night
  • Still being fed overnight on some night wakings to help her get back to sleep (our laziness/desperation entirely)
  • Demanding being rocked while being walked up and down. Sitting down rocking would not cut it for her. In the end even the walking up and down did not work either and she would be crying for ages while I tried everything to get her to sleep.
  • Waking up at 5am for the day every single day (I know this is not unusual for babies but it meant I was going to bed at 9pm and consequently only having about an hour to myself a day. This was taking its toll on my mental health).

However we had also got her into some GOOD habits, or taught her some useful things to help with sleep. Some from birth and some along the way. Things that helped us:

  • She has had a very rigid routine from about 5 months (has worked the best for all of us that way anyway, but also helped with the sleep training)
  • She has had a very clear bedtime routine which has barely changed since she was born
  • She had most naps in her cot and had a clear nap time routine / sleep cues since about 5 months
  • She has never really coslept apart from the odd spell when poorly. This is only because She just never seemed to sleep well in our bed but the upside is that
  • consequently sees her bed as THE place to sleep.
  • She could sometimes self settle if she woke in the night. Since about 8 months we wouldn’t go in to every whimper, only if she was actually crying or up for the day.
  • Already used white noise to help her drift back to sleep between sleep cycles
  • Had begun cuddling a little teddy to help her get to sleep. Only started doing this a few weeks ago when getting her to sleep became really bloody difficult.
I am only writing all this because if you baby is younger / much more fussy / not ready for the disappearing chair / you would like to do things even more gradually, this might help. We basically did things super gradually but it meant by the time we did disappearing chair sleep training, a lot of the other elements were in place, it was mainly the independent falling asleep we needed to teach. So if your baby isn’t ready yet perhaps you could try teaching just one element first.

So, we began sleep training 2 nights ago and we saw instant results. It hasn’t been horrific. For me or for DD. I was phsyching myself up for it being an epic showdown, but it was nothing like that. It genuinely feels like we are teaching her to go to sleep by herself (and get back to sleep) in a gentle, loving, constructive way. Here are my phone diary bits. May help some to hear a success story blow for blow!

Night 1
Explained to her as we were getting ready for bed. “Mummy is going to sit in this chair and DD is going to go to sleep in her cot. I’m going to stay with you until you’re asleep.” It sounds daft but I explained to her a good few times throughout and I really think she understood and it helped her.
She cried, called for mama, reached for me, stood up, got frustrated.
I kept explaining, using touch and voice to comfort
Laid her back down a few times
She started to calm down a bit
Sang her bedtime songs
So tired she was falling asleep standing up so sat her down then laid her down and she did stay down.
Cried some more but I rubbed her back and sang a song and she was asleep
From start to sleep was 20 mins
Waited til she was deep asleep to leave

Bloody hell I wasn’t expecting that!!!

About 12.30 woke and really tried to get back to sleep herself (not crying) for over an hour. And did get herself back to sleep. This is unheard of. She would usually try for about ten minutes then get really upset if she couldn’t get back to sleep. Was watching on monitor ready to go in if she go upset but she didn’t .

Woke at 5.15am as usual. Did a little cry (not an upset one) but was clearly still tired. Laid back down and spent ten mins trying to get herself back to sleep. No intervention from us. Slept til 6.30!!!!!! Also unheard of!!!!! This is amazing. I am so happy I could cry. I didn’t have to get out of bed all night and DD was HAPPY to self settle! Plus a reasonable waking time. Oh I can’t believe it!

Morning nap: put her down at 9am. Explained what we were going to do again. Not upset at all just too interested in playing, climbing, banging on cot bars etc. Fought sleep heroically then got really tired and started to get a bit upset. Comforted with touch and voice. Fell asleep after 1 hour! Let her sleep an hour.

Afternoon nap: put down at 1.45. Generally Same antics as morning nap, lots of messing around in her cot, a bit of grumbling but no proper crying. I didn’t need to do as much to settle her. No crying at all. Asleep in 45 mins. Buuuut awake again about 20 mins later and would not calm down. Big crying episode. Gave up and tried a pushchair walk to get her to sleep but she wouldn’t.

Night 2
Super tired from having such a short nap. Put down at 7. Less time standing up than last night, but really fidgety because over tired. A little bit of crying but not overly distressed. Asleep in 25 mins. SLEPT THROUGH til 5.50am! I will take that every day please!

Morning nap
A story downstairs helped to get her calm before nap. A cuddle and a song from daddy before nap. Much quicker, I hardly had to do anything. Tiny bit of reassurance and asking her to lie down but that was it. Not much resistance today! Asleep in 15 mins!!!

Afternoon nap
Asleep in 15 mins. Hardly had to do anything at all; she gets it now.

Night 3
Her auntie was round for bath time so she was a bit excited at bedtime. A little bit of assurance needed and back stroking etc. But much more ready to lie down. Started actively trying to fall asleep much earlier in the process (less faffing about beforehand). Asleep in 17 mins.

And that is where we are at. I am so happy for DD, she needed this. And so did I. Already I feel like a different person. I am just so grateful.

I know we are not out of the woods yet, I mean I haven’t even moved the chair an inch yet! To be honest though, even if this is it and we never to get to “plonk and go”, I am still deliriously happy with this. Saying that I am confident that we can move the chair tomorrow night and continue with the plan. Fingers crossed the successes continue!

So...

Thank you so much OP for posting this back in 2012. I am so grateful.

Thank you to all the posters who told of their successes - you helped persuade me to do this and it has been incredible for us already.

To anyone who has just finished bouncing/rocking/feeding their baby to sleep and is getting ready for bed themselves right now because they’ll be up soon with the baby again anyway: I feel your pain. You are doing an amazing job being there for your baby night and day. But if you feel they are ready, try this. It just might be the route to sanity and SLEEP.

All the best.

SleepForTheWeek · 14/05/2018 22:16

@cooper82 how did you get on?

We've had great success!! I'm now able to put DD2 in her cot after stories, say goodnight and leave! She'll still cry for a few seconds but that's literally all it is, then she'll be asleep within 10 mins. If she gets really upset I do still go in to calm her down just by singing but I'm not really having to do that anymore.

So, she's now asleep for 6.30/7pm every night and not once has she woken up after 30 minutes all bright eyes and bushy tailed like what was previously happening!

We've not actively worked on reducing night feeds, but she's now only waking once or twice for a feed and settles well afterwards compared to waking 4 times and being awake for hours!!

So yea, it worked for us!!

SleepForTheWeek · 14/05/2018 22:25

@Magpiefeather that's great that it's really worked for you!!

I genuinely believe that some children do really need to 'taught' how to self settle. I could never do CC or CIO as I just don't think it's fair on the baby.

Every baby is different and will be ready for this step at different ages. We knew that DD2 just was no longer happy being fed/rocked to sleep and that is why we decided to try this method. It's made such a difference to us.

I really hope more people get inspiration from this thread and the courage to try it Smile

Magpiefeather · 15/05/2018 06:41

@sleepfortheweek oh that is wonderful to hear that you have done so well with it! It must feel brilliant to be able to just say goodnight and leave. I agree, some babies do need to be taught. Also agree about CIO - I knew I never could do that - and I regret trying CC because it upset DD so much. I gave it up pretty much straight away because I could see how upset it was making her and I don’t think it would have taught her anything positive about sleep really. AlthoUgh perhaps with some babies they don’t get quite so upset and respond to it positively, I don’t know.
Just so impressed with this method!

Magpiefeather · 15/05/2018 06:57

@sleepfortheweek how long did it take you to get to the stage of saying goodbye and leaving?

SleepForTheWeek · 15/05/2018 08:24

It's probably been nearly 3 weeks, could maybe leave after about 2? Although there have been nights I've gone back in.

She woke at 4.45 this morning and after a feed was tired but hadn't fallen asleep so I did the same thing with her - took till 6am!!!! But she did go back to sleep.

PlanetMJ · 15/05/2018 08:25

Magpiefeather, thank you so much for posting about your success. My DS is 11 months and I've been lurking on this thread and recommending it to other posters since he was four months. His sleep has been truly dreadful since birth and I completely get the impact this can have on mental health for sure!

I have been building up the courage and motivation to try gradual retreat and your post is really inspiring me to give it a go. I will update our progress when I eventually get my arse in gear 😀

cooper82 · 15/05/2018 20:31

Here is my progress so far.

11th May

SLEEP TRAINING BEGINS.
6:45pm. Lots of tears. Followed the rules. She was down for 7:15pm asleep. Kept singing until I knew she was definitely out. Did rub her back and pat her bum a little too.
60 mls of formula had been take at this point.
Awake at 11:30pm. Didn’t take her out of bed. Offered her some formula from sippy cup.
Back down for 11:40pm.

12th May

Awake again at 12:30am. Didn’t take her out of cot. Laid her back down. Kept repeating “shhh sleepy time”.
Maybe asleep by 12:40am (she wasn’t moving) left room at 12:45am
Awake again at 4:50am. Followed routine.
Back down for 5:30am. Opening door woke her!!!
Back down for 6:10am
Awake at 7:05am
8:50an - attempted a nap in cot. Didn’t work.
9:50am. Asleep in pram 40 mins.
12:50pm - nap 40mins.
Bath at 6:30pm
In cot 6:45pm. Laying by 6:50pm. Still awake. Few tears. Kept singing till 7:05pm.

13th May
Awake at 12:15am.
Back down at 12:30am
Awake again at 12:50am.
Back down at 1:10am. Waited 10 mins before leaving room.
Awake again at 1:35am.
Back down at 1:45am
Awake at 5:50am. Left her to try and resettle till 6:30. During this time, she did become very still and I think asleep. But then woke up crying a little too.
Nap attempted at 8:10am. Same routine.
Down for 8:30am. Slept for 1 hour and 10 mins. 🎉
12:00pm. Nap. 45 mins
Nap at 3:30pm 30 mins
Bath at 6:30pm. Getting upset in bath so made it a quick one.
6:45pm. In bed. Crying. Started to sing ba ba black sheep. Pretty restless till 7:40 to get her down.

14th May
Awake at 2:25am. Left her to try and self settle for 10 mins.
2:40. 50mls of milk taken from cup. Some crying. Didn’t speak or sing this time. She slump over and was back down for 2:45am.
Awake at 6am. Left her as no tears.
Took her out of bed at 6:20am as she seemed pretty awake and had slept so well in the night.
Nap attempted at 8:45am. Down for 8:50am. 1.5 hour sleep 🎉🎉
Nap 2:25pm. In the sling on me. 30 mins.
Bath 6:30pm.
Bed 6:45pm. Down for 6:50pm. Left room at 7:15pm.
Awake at 11:20pm. Left her to self settle. By 11:30pm it looked like she was asleep.

May 15th
Awake at 5:50am!!! Almost the whole night now!! Didn’t go in. Still seemed pretty sleepy. A few times she’d lay there still for 10 mins. Took her out of bed at 6:30am
Attempted a nap 9:15am
Down and still for 9:20am.
Left room at 9:30am 1.5 hour nap.
Nap at 3pm 30mins in pram.
Bed 6:45pm. Straight down. But then got very restless. Tried for 45 mins. Had to pick up and hold for 5 mins. Then put down. Left room at 7:45pm

So putting her down has got a little easier. My problem tonight had been that other than her 1.5 hour long nap this morning, she only had 30 mins in her pram later on in the day so was overtired.

Overall, from rocking or getting the boob since DD was 6 months, she is now registering that laying her down means bedtime. No rocking or boob or even really a big feed has happened. Last night was the best night yet where she woke but then self settled and woke again at approx 6am. That means she went 6:50pm to 5:50am overall!!! I never had to get out of bed!

Tonight was a little more tough but we are trying to be a little more relaxed with day time naps as we want to be able to get out and do things as well.

So today is our 5th day at trying so we aren't at the point of being able to lay her down and walk out the room but its progress nonetheless. We know its a slow process and we are going to keep trying this at night and hopefully it works. We are pleased with the results so far!!

I will post another update in a weeks time to let you know how we are getting on. Keep your fingers crossed for us!

cooper82 · 15/05/2018 20:33

@SleepForTheWeek - how long have you been following the routine for now??

SleepForTheWeek · 15/05/2018 20:49

I think it's probably been nearly 3 weeks now. Tonight she cried for about 2 seconds when I left, then went to sleep herself after about 10mins of sucking her comforter.

She's still waking twice a night, I think I'm going to tackle this soon but it's the only time she'll take milk so a bit reluctant.

SleepForTheWeek · 15/05/2018 20:52

Also, looks like you're having good success @cooper82 !!!

cooper82 · 16/05/2018 02:11

So it just took over an hour to put DD back to sleep at 1am. She got so upset in the end, that I had to pick her up and hold her to calm her down.
2 steps forward. 1 step back!!

cooper82 · 16/05/2018 02:48

And now she’s awake again! 😢😢

SleepForTheWeek · 16/05/2018 06:35

@cooper82 you'll get there in the end - baby steps!

My DD has just surprised me and slept ALL NIGHT!!!!!! 7pm-6am!!!!!

I haven't actually tried this method during the night but it's obviously had a knock on effect as she was waking 3 x a night for a feed before this.

Hopefully this is the start of something new!

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