10 month waking at night

[suss]

hello Lynn, everybody else, we have 10 month old babes(they were 9 month old and waking at night) (boy and girl between us) who wake at night, if anybody has any reassurance to give us or some ideas as to what might be the problem, we are pretty sure its not teeth we would love to know. Lynn, last night DB was bad too he woke three times before 9pm he goes to bed between 6.30 & 7pm. But I had an IVF egg collection yesterday, so was in bed and so I didn't go in to him. He started off by moaning, which escalated slightly, but he stopped within 10 mins and went back to sleep. Hooray! Glad to hear you had some sleep over the wkend.

Hi suss, lets hope we dont need to move on to an 11, or 12 month waking thread. Any advice will be gratefully received.

Well felt as if dd was awake all night. Grumbling then eventually crying at 2.20am so went through and held her until she fell back asleep at 3am but the rest of the night all I heard was little cries and whines but thankfully she drifted off the rest of the time herself. I had to wake her this morning at 8am as I take her to my dads to look after her when at work and that was her in bed from 10pm so she obviously really tired too. She wasnt in pain just wakening for no reason.

Suss, hope the IVF was successful and lots of good eggs collected. Have fingers crossed for you and hope db sleeps well today so you can have a good rest.

Last night was particularly cold. How do you know its not teeth? they can move around under the gums for ages before appearing. My ds showed none of the classic symptoms of teeth eg red cheeks, dribbling. But a tooth would magically appear after a few days of refusing food/waking.
I introduced a dream feed for my ds at about 9 mo which helped see him through a bit longer - but I reckon it wasn't till about 1yo that he would sleep right through regularly.

Hi TracyK - were not 100% its not teeth but when dd other teeth came through (has 3 so far) we have very rough nights up to a week before hand and at least we realise thats what is happening but other times she seems to waken for no reason apart from wanting cuddled back to sleep. I did introduce a dream feed when it started but dont really think she needed it and stopped as I dont want her getting used to it. I've been lucky that dd apart from last month or so has been very good sleeper and sleeping through night since 4 months so was bit of shock to start getting up again which is similar situation to suss too. I suppose like you say it could still be teeth niggling at them without us realising it.

I was the same - ds slept through from 12 weeks till about 5/6 mo and then started waking in the nights. So I had been used to getting lots of sleep and was a bit of a shock to the system!
I could usually suss out what was wrong by trial and error. Sometimes milk - he wolfed it, sometimes Calpol - he grabbed at it, sometimes cold and lonely - would only settle in my bed all snuggly. But luckily didn't seem to develop into a habit with any of them. I can't remember what age he was when I started putting his bottle in his bed for him at 11pm instead of dream feed- so that he could find it himself on waking and not wake me. Then gradually replaced it with just a bottle of water - which he still would drain by morning.

Hi Tracy I don't think DB's teeth are bothering him as he will go for days without waking and then we will hit a really bad patch and go about two or three weeks with him waking every night then we will have another quiet patch. I do give him teething powders which seem to calm him down, but I can't calpol him every night. I did a dream feed until he was about 16 weeks when he started really objecting to being woken. He also gets more upset if I go in so I try not to if I can help it- you are right though, it was a shock to the system DB was like your baby - fab sleeper until 6.5 months! then wham. Thinking about it I think that sometimes its me thats got a problem with him waking not him as it probably is how it is, so I am getting more relaxed. But ofcourse we are all looking for the miracle which doesn't exsist.
Lynn, We are doing quite well on the IVF front - 15 eggs fertilised out of 23 (yes that is a lot!) Go back on Thurs for the Embryo Transfer and then the terrible 2 week wait. I am hoping for sleep tonight too! I am sending lots of dream dust - in hope you get some sleep tonight xxxx.

Hi Suss
When I gave ds a dream feed - I didn't wake him - I just put the bottle to his lips and he sucked on it automatically. It was either ebm or formula - whatever I had available.
I found that 2/3/4am wakings were ok as he went back to sleep - but I think when it hit a patch of 5am wakings - they were the worst because by the time he'd woken, had some milk or a cuddle - it was almost time to get up! But like everything the 5am was a phase which they grow out of (usually!).

Hi suss, how was your night? Did you manage to rest? 15 eggs thats fantastic well done, you must be over the moon. Hope the transfer goes well and cant imagine how hard the two week wait will be but fingers crossed for you.

Thanks for your dream dust but unfortunately just had the worst night ever, infact I think I was lucky if got 3 hours sleep last night. DD just kept crying and that was with calpol before bed, teething powders during night and more calpol. I had to sleep on the floor in her room holding her hand. I just pray tonight I get something better. Thats what happens I suppose for getting great sleep at weekend.

Hi Lynn, DB was playing in his cot at 1am for an hour last night, it was really cute for 20 mins but it got a bit tiring after that, I had to shut our bedroom door! The joys of small houses in London!
Sorry to hear about your bad night, I am hoping she will give you a night off tonight so sending more dream dust tonight.
Tracy, no we didn't wake him for the dream feed either, but he would smack the bottle away and then wake up all irritated, you could tell he was just not impressed by it anymore which is why we stopped. DH was v upset as that was the only time he got to see db in the evening, now he has to wait until the morning.

Hi - daily update, well managed a better sleep last night. Up twice and cuddled her back to sleep both times but compared to the night before it was a god send. I was hoping a tooth had come through after the performance lately but nope still just the three...I'm taking next week off work so hopefully manage to catch up on sleep then.

I know what you mean when they start to play you laugh at first but then you realise the time and just wish they would go back to sleep. Heres hoping for a restful week for us both. Hope your taking things easy and best of luck for today with the transfer. Hope lots of good fertilised eggs waiting for you.

Lynn, your DD has three teeth, DB still only has two, so you have made some progress! I can see the top teeth and they are bulging below the gum line - see that what happened with your LO? He woke twice last night, but for seconds each time so he was a v good boy, mind you he only slept for 1 hr 20 mins during the day so he was knackered. I do really wish you some sleep tonight as it sounds as though you could do with a night off. Everything went well today 2 v v good little embryos went back and now we wait and see. I am sure DB knows something is up because he is being quite clingy. I have left him with DH when I have had treatment, which is really the first time he has looked after him. Sweetdreams xxxx

My baby is ten months old and waking 2-3 times at night. This is what I expect. My other three were the same.

The good news is they started sleeping through at around 11-13 months so I'm hanging in there.

I'm putting in the groundwork now. I don't respond to every whimper, but wait to see if it'll really build up.

It's great if you can get dh/dp to settle them for you. I've yet to master this. He always has something more pressing. Hmph!

SM - you've done this 3 times already how are you still sane/in one piece?!

ds is nearly 10mths, & for the last 5 nights has pretty much slept through BUT before that we've had months of being up 3/4/5 even 6 times every night, it was killing us!! no idea why he's sleeping better just now (not counting any chickens mind!) but v v grateful for the sleep...

I didn't ever claim to be sane.

Thanks Spidermama, at least I know that this too will pass. Think I am insane too for trying to do IVF with a 10 Month old baby.

Hi roosmum and spidermama hoping the sleepless nights will soon settle again like you say. I'll keep fingers crossed it settles aroung the 11month mark instead of the 13month!!! DD has few whimpers which I never respond to but as soon as she cries she will not settle until I go and cuddle her back to sleep.

suss, glad to hear you got 2 vv good embryos, hope your resting well and getting good sleep. Thats a week past now so not much longer to wait. Hoping for best for you, keep me updated.

DD sleeping has been no better although I noticed another tooth so I think that was the cause of the night from hell. She got her third tooth round about the same time as her second bottom one. Its at the side of the middle teeth like a little fang and looks funny but cute so thats her now got three on the bottom and one on top.

I got a gro bag in the hope of better sleeping but unfortunately not changed her waking. She also has a little cold and a rash all over her back and neck which doesnt help. Took her to hv today but she just said if it gets worse go to the doctors! She doesnt seem too bothered and still her cheery self during the day so just glad of that.

Hi everyone,

My son Ryan, who's 8 months old. I did the CC on my son Ryan for couple of days last week, but it doesn't seem to be working.

Ryan was waking up at 2am and 4am, he is still waking up 2am or 4am. I do give drink him a drink to settle him back to slee. Am i making it worse? Is it Ryan just waking up a habit?

I'm a single mum and i am very tired indeed. Ryan only slept through about 5 or 6 time! He is 3 solids a day.

Any idea to help ryan sleep through? I don't know what to do.

Many thanks

Natalie

Hi Natuk I am sorry to hear you are having bad nights, I am afraid I have gone way past cc. I am brutal mother now and I leave DS unless he sounds really distressed and then I will go in, check him and if everything is ok I will leave again while he is awake and not go back in, without picking him up or talking. Sounds horrible and it really is vile for you, Ryan won't remember a thing, he will wake up inthe morning and all he will remember is that he had a good nights sleep. So here's the gameplan, it will take three to five days, depending on how determined your lo is, but what you do is pick a bedtime, do the routine, bath, bottle, story whatever, but remeber to do the same every night so he gets his sleep cues and then, with loads of nappy cream on his bot, put him into the cot and kiss him goodnight and walk away, Go and ring a friend, and talk to them until he goes to sleep. Do not go into the room. do this for 3 nights or until he doesn't cry himself to sleep, because he will, and you will find like s**t, but it works. If you are worried about psycological damage etc, I have read several books by paediatricians and research by sleep specialists that will tell you that ignoring your childs cries when they should be sleeping will not damage them. Good Luck, let us know how you get on.

Lynn, sorry I haven't replied, c**p week, I don't think the IVF has worked, started bleeding today, we'll try again in the new year. Sleep, oh joy I have cut ds's morning nap, he no longer has one and he has stopped waking early and his sleep in general is improving, not perfect but we are all feeling a bit better. It is early days and I'll let you know how it goes.

Hi everyone,

My son Ryan has been sleeping through the night since last Thursday now (finger cross, hope he will carry on).

I did the CC over a week. it seem like it has work at last. I thought Ryan would not sleep though.

I have notice Ryan's two of his top teeth's has come through last week, since then he has been sleeping through. Do you think it was teething, that why has been waking up twice or so more in the night for months?

Take care

so pleased to hear you are finally getting some rest. It may have been teeth but i am sceptical as they don't seem to get that upset during the day. Hi Lynn hope you had a good few days off! DS still waking periodically, just feeling down about the IVF not working, will post soon.

I'm back from few days rest, well from work anyway. Had another night from hell last night and slept on the floor with hand on dd chest to let her know I was there so she would calm down and sleep. I have had a few good night only up once or twice over past few days so grateful for some sleep although she seems to time it perfect for me coming back to work to be up all night.

Hope things settled for you Natuk and it is just teething.

suss so sorry to hear the ivf didnt work ...dont know what to say. Lets hope the new year brings better news for you. Hows db doing, sounds as though cutting out his nap might be doing the world of good. Does he not get cranky when he is used to getting it?

Hi suss, just wondering how your doing??? Hope your managing to get some time to yourself and relax.

Also thinking we its almost time for an 11month old thread....time just flying past. Maybe should just catch up on a chat thread or even in the Jan 05 thread.

I will be sooooo glad when today is over for the weekend before monday comes again.....bad week and surprised I'm managing to stay awake just hoping this phase will be over soon and get back to good nights sleep. Its my birthday tomorrow so my dad is taking dd overnight to let us out on Saturday which will be good although might take advantage of house to ourselves and early night to catch up on some much needed sleep. Oh how things have changed, birthdays used to be time for friends and family and laughs and drinks now all I want is sleep!!! Wouldnt change her for the world though...well back to being good sleeper but you know what I mean.

Take care and hope your doing ok.

Hi Lynn thanks for your message, we are fine and wait for it have two new teeth, which actually haven't caused any trouble at all. So I now think its complete tosh this teeth business, well with DS it is anyway. I am sorry to hear you are having a bad patch and glad you are going to get a little break over the wkend. I have decided DS has little cycles of good and bad sleep both lasting about two weeks at the moment. I am hoping that the good cycles will lenghten and the bad ones will shorten with time, but not too much, time I mean. I have to say though dropping the morning nap has made a difference to his lunchtime nap and he is now sleeping till we go in in the morning. Have made an appointment with the consultant 13th Jan 2006 about next lot of IVF, complete and utter glutton I am! Sweet Dreams and lots of sleepy dust coming your way.

Great news on the new teeth, is it the top front two? DD top front just about to break through and I thought I could feel one towards the back but she clammed up and wouldnt let me in so we also have potentially two new teeth.

Had lovely weekend and great having Saturday night to ourselves, almost forgot what its like spending time together. Guess how dd behaved for her granda - went to bed at 9.15pm and slept till 8.15 I couldnt believe it. She had couple of murmers but didnt actually start crying. But the timer in her head must have told her its Sunday again and time to wake up during the night.

Good to hear youre going for another appointment something to look forward to for new year sending all best luck in world for when it comes hope everything turns out as perfect as your db.

Suss also meant to ask how things going with the nap change? Do you think it is helping missing his morning nap?

DD usually has two naps a day but sometimes only one and just wondering whether should try cutting one out although not sure if that would be too long for her since she doesnt go to bed till 9.30-10pm.