The 'newborn - sleep nightmare' continuation thread, Cosmosis, count, emo etc. Still a sleep nightmare?

[Bumperlicious]

Just thought I'd catch up with all of you from the last thread to see if now we've moved on from the newborn stage things are any better?

Dd2 is nearly 5 months and sleep is still hit and miss. She is not good at sleeping when out and about so mornings are either spent at home or I choose to socialise and spend the rest of the day fighting to get her to sleep.

She still rarely goes down in the evening despite me trying for 1.5 hours. Eventually goes down 11.30ish and still often wakes twice a night

Am knackered, no end in sight. How's everyone else doing?

nice to hear some of you are getting some sleep and great news about the childminder count :)

sorry your ds is being so crap cosmosis :(

merryn isnt being too good either, her morning nap is still fine, goes down no probs and sleeps for 2-2and ahalf hours! but her afternoon nap is hit and miss, hard to get her to sleep and then she is often only having half an hour rather than an hour and a half.

then in the evening she is hard to get off to sleep, normally just swaddle, cuddle, stick her in the pram and plug the dummy in but lots of rocking needed the past few days and she has been waking a few times int eh half hour after she first goes down, totally unlike her!

unsettled at night and waking early in the morning, so i am knackered and she is fractious and wont be put donw in the day, she is normaly ver easy going and happy, so not like her.

dont know if she is grumpy through lack of sleep, or not sleeping becasue of whatever is making her grumpy?! i suspect its the later as even after he big morning sleep she is still grumpy! teething maybe? or developmental as she is almost sitting up? her balance is getting better by the day!

Ditto. DS has finally just screamed himself to sleep in my arms :(

Gonna be a long night ...

oh no :( its exhausting isnt it :(

am going to try and get a couple of hours sleep now, i would have already been asleep but the boiler man was here! he was going to come round tomorrow but was in the area so came this evening! good service tho bless him i had just got merryn on to sleep when he arrived and i said if he woke her i would kill him! he tried ever so hard to be quiet :) and now i can have a hot shower in the morning as opposed to this mornings cold one!

Sorry for the sleep regressions everyone, it's like 3 steps forward and 2 steps back on this thread :(

So the last two nights, well, I don't know what it was. Firstly I am trying to get more milk into DD2. I had got quite slack with feeding, especially as she will only feed in a quiet room now . Secondly she is eating a lot of solid food (although she choked and vomited up her whole dinner this evening so we'll see how that goes...). Thirdly, I've managed to get her covered up at night, BeingBlondes very kindly lent me a Peke Moe (except she vomited on that twice) and also trying the sleeping bag. So in my opinion she is warmer. DH on the other hand thinks the opposite, and reckons that the our usually warm bedroom was actually pretty cool, and that she preferred being cooler.

Anyway, two nights does not a pattern make so, I'm just hoping tonight goes as well.

Happy sleeping all of you :)

I've had to resettle DS 4 times so far this evening so am joining you ladies in a long night. I think he slept well last night because he has a bit of a bug - he was really sleepy today too. I think the calpol I gave him at bedtime has wakened him up - I don't understand how it makes other babies sleepy.

Oh Bumper what wonderful news :)

Last night we did the bedtime routine properly at half six, with last nap finishing at four. Night night kiss from daddy and mummy, into cot, light off. I stayed holding his hands and he fell asleep in FIVE BLOODY MINUTES!!

I was Mrs Smug. Oh, I have the best boy ever, learns how to sleep in one night.....

Hahahaha

He then woke every half hour. Gah! DH and I split the night so I got four hours' sleep. But bloody hell!

Judy, did your night continue like the crappy beginning?

Nightmare bigkids! Yours is younger though isn't he? Are you in the 4 month sleep regression that never ends ?

Good sleeping didn't last here. Dd2 was up crying on and off for two hours till 1.30 then slept in my bed. No idea why. She did then sleep till 7 so I am hoping that was an aberration and in general sleep is getting a bit better.

Yes, he's 18 weeks, 20 corrected. I was hoping we'd be out of the regression by now, it's been a month :(

Still, 1.30 to 7 is pretty good, isn't it? The screaming is so hard to endure though, I know

glad some of us are making progress!!

my night was better, she slept from 8-11 but then was awake till 12:30 then settled her again at 2 something fed her at 4:30 then she slept till 7 but i had to stick the dummy in a few times.

she is grizzly now so going to put her down for her nap and ds4 is at preschool so i may join her!

I'm not at all confident about toight - DS has a cold and is all phlegmy :( so I've given him some calpol and he has literally fed and slept all morning. No doubt that means the poor lad will be up all night again!

Good luck with tonight. Even if the rest of the night was crap the beginning sounded good - settling like that sounds promising.
OUr night was pretty rubbish - DS kept on waking up, taking ages to settle and then waking up again anyway 10 minutes later. I took him to bed with me about 11pm and he went straight to sleep with no fuss and slept for 2 hours. It was one of those nights where I gave up looking at the clock and just popped him on the boob everytime he woke.
He's got a bit of a temperature and was sick today but I think it's teething - I'm expecting to see a tooth sometime very soon.

Well despite me being the prophet of doom the other night was fine, he woke once for a feed and once for calming down which DH did.

Last night he woke at about 11.30 and DH settled, and then I woke at 3 wondering why he hadn?t woken. I then heard little ?mmmmm? noised from him room that he does when sending himself off to sleep and I got all excited thinking he was going to just send himself back off and sleep through!! He did send him self back off, but woke at 4 for a feed. Still, a pretty good night. And he managed to get himself to sleep at bedtime again, after not doing it for a while.

thats good cosmosis :)

our night was better, she was down by 7:30 but before that had a screaming fit and was sick :( but she then slept till 11:30 fed and went straight back to sleep, woke at 3 something for the dummy and again at just past 4, then fed at 5am and slept till 7:30 with me sticking the dummy in twice :) and naps have been much better today, she seems happier as well, so whatever was bothering her seems not to be, but we had funny poo and the sick yesterday so maybe her tummy was sore?

well i thought i had it sussed but it turns out DH was just having a break and has woken 4/5 times the last few nights, soo tired. think it was teeth the first night but last night there didnt appear to actually be anything wrong, just woke loads. not sure i can cope with so little sleep again, i thought it was over :(

Blimey Cosmosis that's great news!

I spoke to Andrea today about how things are going. She agreed some improvements are happening but that he is still waking up far too often. She said in our case there are three reasons for waking - he wants fed, he wants his dummy, or he is looking for me. Now he's on one feed a night, and has been for 3 nights, he will eventually stop expecting them. We're not tackling the dummy yet so just the "expecting me to be there" part.

So on instructions, tonight I fed, read the story, put in cot and dummy in then kissed on cheek and left the room. All was quiet so I looked in two minutes later and ... He was only bloody ASLEEP!!

I'm so proud of him. This is only the fourth night. I know for a while, maybe a long while, he'll carry on waking every hour while he gets used to the new arrangement. But already we're seeing such improvements and it's spurring me on through the exhaustion :)

thats brilliant bigkids! i often wonder if i should try to take away the dummy as sometimes he does just wake for it but it really helps him get to sleepat 7pm that i always put it off!

I am in terror of giving up the dummy, it is the only really reliable sleep cue for him. I hope I don't need to soon, I hope that's not the reason for all his wakings

its really difficult isnt it? i know people that have been told to get rid of it but when i was speaking to a sleep specialist she didnt have a problem with them. i just cant face the inevitable screaming if i didnt give it to DS at night.

Well after our self settling triumph we had an utterly shit night. Ended up breaking all the rules, feeding twice and letting him sleep on me after four.

:(

Oh no bigkids. I've often found that with DS - you think you're getting somewhere and they suddenly seem to cotton on to what you're doing! Keep at it - the self-settling sounds great - DS can't do that now, let alone at four months!

Well, DS slept really well last night

I was worried we'd have an awful night - I'd been visiting a friend during the day and got back late-ish, so he'd had a late afternoon nap and didn't go to bed until 8:30pm. He is also coughing and sniffling loads. My suspicions seemed to be confirmed when he spluttered himself awake at 9:30. I fed him back to sleep and put him back down just after 10, then went to bed. He didn't wake up until 1:40am and even then it was fair enough because he'd leaked and was soaking wet. I changed him, gave him a swig of water and some Calpol, then fed back to sleep and put him down again at about 2:30.

I heard him cry out at 5:30 and I thought to myself, OK, OK, will just lie here a couple of minutes and then get up. Next thing I know it was 6:30 and all was quiet - went to check on him and he stirred but stayed asleep until he coughed himself awake at 7:15!

Maybe he's like judy's DS and sleeps better with a cold ...

Five hours Count! Wow!

Hope your DS is ok count and it's not just his cold that made him sleep. Sorry last night wa hard bigkids - ours was awful as well. DS was awake for nearly 2 hours crying. I had to get DH up for a bit as I just couldn't cope anymore. I'm so tired in every sense of this. I can only settle him by feeding him in the night now and don't know how to stop it. He's sleeping till 7 now but only if I feed him at 5 and 6 which isn't great. Bah.

He's just followed up his great night with a two-hour morning nap

Liking the sound of a 2 hour nap count.

Will we have to start a new thead soon? I think I've read before that threads get deleted if they reach 1000 messages but not sure if that is right. Can't believe we're still on here but it's nice some people have had some success. I got an email from a friend today saying how is DS sleeping - he must be better by now .

Starting to think about sleep consultants again.....

Have you tried consultants before Judy? It sounds really rough at the moment, you poor thing.

Poor DS has a cold and upset tum and is teething and has spent 90% of his awake time today latched on, the wee soul. In that light last night, which featured a three hour stretch, wasn't so bad after all