Is anyone feeling nervous about their 21/22 ski trip?

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I realise that I'm probably being silly. I fully recognise that covid has made me a bit irrationally anxious about crowds, busy places, etc. So on that note... We have a large and normally busy resort in France booked (booked pre covid and shifted from last year to this). We're going to a catered chalet with DH's family which includes his child free siblings who will want to go out partying.
I'm a bit worried about ski resorts being covid hotbeds this winter (remembering Whistler last year) and what will happen if we end up with it - we won't be able to travel home presumably so where will we stay? Not to mention the possibility of actually getting ill, though DH and I are both vaccinated so I know that's unlikely.
Anyway, just wondering if anyone else is having similar thoughts or if I'm being really foolish.

@artquejtion
Really sorry to hear this. Can you tell me how this actually plays out in resort?

Do they have a system that records it and notifies your hotel etc and do they check up on you?

We are in our own ski apartment.

Due to leave tomorrow to spend 24th, 25th, 26th with extended family and then fly out on 27th.

Dont know what we will do, our apartment is rented as of 26th, agent scrambling to organize something for the other guests, but everything is completely booked. All Christmas gifts are waiting at families house.

Gutted.

Husband is the only one testing positive so far.

Most nerve racking bit done... the return test for the UK. I've been stressing it all day.

How are things for you @artquejtion?

@artquejtion how is your DH? Hope he’s well despite the positive test.

Thanks for asking, PCR came back positive as expected, he seems fine, most symptoms have gone, he is just feeling tired. It is definitely milder than when I had it last year.

It would be bad enough to have Christmas ruined in your own home, but it's an added stress when you are away from home and the worry of what happens on the next PCR.

@Aroundtheworldin80moves, glad the PCR is done and negative, that is a relief, I'm sure.

Sorry to hear about your husband. How frustrating for you to be so near to getting home after a nice trip.

We should have been on our way to Heathrow now. Although as DC2 tested positive on Christmas Eve we wouldn’t have been going anyway

Hi all need some help - looking to go away W/c 22nd January - 2 triple vaccinated adults. 1 x double vaccinated 12 year old and 9 year old - totally confused on all the rules - what are our options with minimal testing ? Was looking at Austria but now looks like our 12 year old needs a booster 😱

@jb23newmum for Andorra its just double vaxxed over 12s (just need to follow the guidance for Spain for flights). Then the testing to get home. So relatively straight forward compared to the others...

@jb23newmum Switzerland if you don’t mind the cost. 24h Antigens for 16+ now.

We cancelled our holiday to Zell on the 8th this afternoon. The testing was stressing me out so much, I wanted to go but couldn't face the hassle. We have re-booked for the same date next year for an extra £167.00. We will look for a last minute end of January or February if we still want to go.

@Fairylights25

No one is exempt from testing as far as I am aware, we have recently recovered from covid, but I don't think it makes any difference at all as you can still catch the new variant and can still carry the virus.

I found the answer to my question by chance. The article is on the Telegraph which I think is behind a paywall but hopefully this extract is useful if anyone is considering travel to these countries and has recently had covid.

The following countries accept proof of recovery in lieu of a negative pre-travel Covid test result. Note that this is not an exhaustive list, and each destination applies its own caveats regarding validity, documentation type and source. Check the Foreign Office and official guidance for the most up-to-date guidance.
Iceland
Austria
Bulgaria
Croatia
Finland
Norway
Slovenia
Turkey

Why is proof of recovery so useful for travel?
Testing for travel can be expensive and fraught with frustrations, such as tests not being delivered in timee_, returning an inconclusive result, or certification turning up late. If permitted by your destination, a Proof of Recovery document or letter can bypass these potential pitfalls – and for free, if obtained via the NHS app.
And that’s not all. Those who have recovered from Covid within the past three months are likely to return a false-positive result on a PCR test, even though their infection risk has long passed. This affects up to a third of peoplee, and can cause real issues in destinations that require a PCR test to enter – so a Proof of Recovery document will help to lessen this risk. In Barbados, for example, arrivals are advised to carry proof of their diagnosis and recoveryy, in case of a false-positive test result.

Forgot to add I've had a name change otherwise my post sounds very random....

We are now isolating after what we presume was a Positive case on the plane home (since it was all four of us and we haven't been anywhere else...)

We were told their was a positive case on our flight. You don't need to isolate if you are double jabbed. Our flight was less than half full and we all wore masks.

I've just been on holiday and received an email that someone on the flight had tested positive but no need to self isolate just vigilance

Isolating in the sense of not seeing older relatives, cancelled house guests and DH has been told to wfh... (and using our remaining LFTs sparingly to go to supermarket etc).

plm but what is the point in carrying proof of recovery when the omicron variant makes it null and void, given you can catch the new variant regardless? It seems to me that some countries advice is really out of date and likely to be changed.

I had delta in October, as we all did, we have antibodies but they are pretty pointless now as I am just as exposed as everyone else when it comes to the new variant - at least that is the scientific proof to date.

Fairy lights while it's been reported that omicron has a much higher reinfection rate than Delta, I haven't seen it said anywhere that a previously infected person is at "as much risk than anyone else". These are 2 different things.

I would do some more research really my GP said the antibodies from other variants do not seem to be offering any protection from omicron. Hence the booster drive and the most enormous spike in cases in Europe previously infected or not, we are all back at the start so to speak. I now have friends suffering from their third experience of covid (mainly London based) but no doubt will be countrywide soon enough, having caught covid last year, delta over the summer and now omicron. All are triple vaccinated, all thankfully have a relatively mild illness, but nonetheless a scrap of paper talking about your antibodies to a variant that has already all but disappeared now seems very out of date to me. Old advice based on old variants, so the countries still working this way either need to catch up or are choosing to remain in the covid dark ages to encourage visitors...you decide.

True but the old variant is actually dangerous, the new one is not so much. If we don't require certificates and tests for other flu and colds then we shouldn't for this weakening strain.

Hopefully as it becomes milder, travel restrictions will ease and the testing removed. I can see the argument for proof of vaccine for travel given significantly less risk of needing hospitalisation.

I got an email last week that someone on my plane tested positive - but really that's meaningless given 1 in 25 in UK now have it

Have you seen the news reports of the French Tourism bosses pressuring the French government to ease restrictions on UK tourists? Fingers crossed for anyone hoping for France!

Hopefully - given their own numbers it's senseless surely