MNHQ, a word in your shell-like please - about these pro-BNP threads... consider this a petition

[TheLadyOfTheGreenKirtle]

hasn't this gone far enough? these threads are being allowed to stand which considering the "policies" of the BNP and the views expressed by "activists" is appalling. yes, free speech is wonderful, but some of these threads can be seen as inciting racial hatred, there are many, many, disablist, homophobic, racist remarks made and implied and they always go the same way. the threads are started to cause a bunfight. the BNP will not get anymore supporters on here, so why be deliberately controversial?

mn is a self-moderated site. this is great and one of the reasons i use it. however, the mners are now moderating and saying that we have had enough. we have complained a LOT about this type of thing - please take note!

look - my sister (the one who died) was a lesbian. my other sister is bi - my brother is a gay man. i have a special needs son. i have friends who are black and ive worked for a muslim man who taught me all about islam,

i live in a very small northern town where i hear the same stuff as DP says all the time. i challenge it, but screaming someone down doesnt help.

if i got my knickers in a twist as much as the rest of you on here id be walking with a limp.

I see your point Vicar

in fact I shared it until recently when I saw a bit more closely how people get hurt by dp and how little of a shit she gives about it

Sorry but I don't think she CAN say whatever she likes - not when it comes to making personal attacks and deliberately hurting people. She falls foul of the MN trolling policy all the time - I agree that doesn't make her a troll, because she's been here for ages and I believe she really believes the stuff she posts

BUT she can't kep on deliberately shit-stirring and being nasty to other posters.

I don't feel comfortable supporting a ban, for the reasons you describe - which is why I thought HER suggestion was a good compromise.

and it pisses me off when people blithely break their word. Flouncing in a temper and then coming back sheepishly - well, we've all done that. That's not what's happened here. DP says whatever she has to say to take the heat off herself when things inevitably come to a head - and it's worth absolutely nothing.

politeness and consideration of others feelings.

"lets send round some black disabled lesbians to set fire to daftpunk in frount of her family"

Is that the sort of thing you mean..?

ive reported this thread btw. thought it was time someone did it.

we all reported it days ago

why do you think somebody would post that dp? Could it be because of your vile hurtful remark, especially to LG, about her lifestyule being unnatural, looking like a trucker? Or was it the bit about gay people not being fit to be parents?

I know people have attacked you. They've attacked you because you have hurt and upset them.

YOU on the other hand attack people because you enjoy the attention and you don't give a fuck about other people. BIG difference.

Not pleasant, no, DP. But you need to have a long, hard think about why people post such things, and consider just how annoyed and upset they get because of the things you say to them.

Anyway, I'm not engaging any more with you on this. You know what I think.

I'm not excusing that DP.

Vicar; I see what you are saying, I really do. But. This isn't the street. It is a parenting forum.

Anyway.....

DP- I have said before that I think somewhere inside you there is a good person. We have spoken on here a few times (without me knowing of your insults to other posters) when I haven't seen the troll..

However, you still aren't showing much remorse about how you've upset so many decent people on here. Your views are your views, but you provoke an argument and then try and justify it though making jokes. You must appreciate an out and out apology and acceptance that what you have said is wrong is far better?

I don't want to see you banned as I think everyone deserves a chance to make amends. If you really understand why you have upset some MNetters, I think you should rethink how you chat on here.

If I were you I'd also stop trying to talk to those on here who may never accept you apology...

good. glad its been reported. HQ need to show some balls and get on here.

im starting to think there is a lot of pent up aggression which just gets lobbed at the easiest scape goat going.

"lets send round some black disabled lesbians to set fire to daftpunk in frount of her family"

so - when DP says hurtful things its bad - but when people say the above about DP thats quite justified is it?

talk about double standards.

I didn't say it was justified but it is certainly provoked - it's worth being aware of cause and effect, isn't it?

I'm sick of seeing rows on thread which have blown up because DP has again, quite deliberately, said something hurtful and vile

she attacks the same people over and over again and then goes boneless like a fucking toddler when they retaliate "oh, poor me, I could fill a book with the attacks that have been made on poor baffled little me"

it's disgusting tbh

and I feel a fool for trying to be reasonable, suggesting that an apology and an undertaking to stop doing it would be enough

am off now, I've wasted enough of my day on this

so when youve successfully managed to get rid of DP whos next for barrage of insults followed by the ban then?

who the hell made a few posters on here judge jury and executioner?

if i decide id like you all banned for being discriminatory and cruel would that wash too?

shall i go find a screaming mob, a few pitchforks and flaming torches? ffs this is quite quite ridiculous.

God this is so depressing

That people are defending the right of someone to swan around the site, picking on people, finding their weaknesses, and then poking and prodding until they break

That people are defending someone who has driven people with children with special needs to leave the site or stop posting

That people are defending someone who repeatedly targets others who are in minorities and attacks that minority in order to cause maximum offense

If someone comes up to you and says "you disgust me, you are a sin against nature" is it really reaonsable to expect that person not to bite back? And if they don't, and they hide the thread, what about the next person, and the next.

It is the virtual equivalent of a person who walks around in RL, going up to strangers and spitting in their faces.

DP causes far far to much hurt, harm and despair to others. It honestly upsets me to see the way she goes in for the kill over and over and over. And if people don't know her - well what are they to think? they don't know "oh well it's only DP".

Honestly I hate to row but this has gone too far. She has managed to reach a point where one of the nicest, calmest, kindest people on the boards has given up. What does that say.

I've said repeatedly that I don't want dp to be banned

I do want her to stop being deliberately nasty though

I am a "forthright and contentious poster" I think

but thankfully there isn't a large group of MNers who vociferously want me banned (there may be one or two)

because I don't go around deliberately attacking people and making hurtful remarks just for effect

DP has at least 2 posts a week deleted.

This is not a sign of someone who is playing nicely.

if you want me banned for being "discriminatory and cruel" vicar, go right ahead

Agreed, ImSoNotTelling