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Our comments, in MN books, who owns our collective wisdom?

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Wotzy · 28/01/2009 22:28

Who owns our comments?

We can request them to be removed from this forum, but not in print. In posting we give consent for them to be on MN on the web, but does that extend to publication in a book.

I am not looking for a fight, it is a serious question, who owns the copyright to our words, if they are in publication? Was there consent to have our collective words printed in a book?

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wotzy · 29/01/2009 17:24

I have said before that you can ask for post to be removed in forums so will cease to be on the net and therefore google will never find it. But you can't delete words in a printed book, and you can't detach your emotions if you read something that you feel you shared at a time of depression or grief or were even pissed and later wish it never existed.

If it is only silly light hearted comments, then that I feel id totally different. Did you read stinky's post?

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wotzy · 29/01/2009 17:28

Yes indeed lulu, your advice has been fantastic, and I am going to make loads of links to your fab motheringinstincts.com Doula site in future

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OhBling · 29/01/2009 17:29

But how can it bother you? No one will KNOW it's you? I would understand if it's attributed, but if you share about how your mum treating you like a child makes you feel helpless and vulnerable can help someone else and remain annonomous, does it matter?

Heck, I've been surprised occassionally when I go back to a thread I haven't been on for a while and read a comment and only afterwards realise I had written it. Would you even notice your comments?

MP - you can use anything of mine. Unless it's on the topic of "South Africa is a fab place to visit" I won't even notice it was me!

morningpaper · 29/01/2009 17:31

Wotzy you CAN ask for your post to be removed if typed when drunk etc. of course. It's hard to comment on theoretical situations thought, isn't it?

I'd read stinky's post yes. Generally posters don't use their real names these days though.

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wotzy · 29/01/2009 17:32

OneBat? I'm not getting drawn down this road. My concern in the op was that the copyright, I think, should be in the T&C in joining as it should be on many sites. It is universal. Justine has already said they will look into that SOON and it needs to be done.

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Lulumama · 29/01/2009 17:34

hi wotzy !! perhpas a half term meet in the park ?

but MP, MN don;t always like to delete comments, especially if people have piled in to give lots of help

onebatmother · 29/01/2009 17:34

eh wotzy?

Lulumama · 29/01/2009 17:35

and thank you for the publicity !

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wotzy · 29/01/2009 17:37

OneBat, so you and OhBling are two poster? There are too many name changers sorry I can't keep up.

Yes lulu, park sounds good, will email. No fighting over who gets the best swing though!

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Lulumama · 29/01/2009 17:39

ok. that would be lovely wotz. my turn to buy the ice cream x

OhBling · 29/01/2009 17:43

No, I am not OneBat.
No idea what you're talking about now.

Tamarto · 29/01/2009 18:09

"This means that ownership transfers from you to Mumsnet Ltd and you may not submit the same material to any other website or printed publication without our prior agreement. "

This is the only thing that held my attention. I post drivel all over the interweb, some of it may or may not be the same drivel that i post on MN, do they really expect people to ask before posting 'god i'm starving' on another site after having posted it here?

Or is it a relic of what was copied in times gone by?

I don't want sued for spouting crap

Justine what say you?

onebatmother · 29/01/2009 18:22
Habbibu · 29/01/2009 18:52
LadyMuck · 29/01/2009 18:56

Justine tends to be sued rather than to sue ime. I think that she has more than enough on her plate with this site without having to try to police other sites too.

Threadworm · 29/01/2009 19:18

I'd like to point out to those of you who contributed poems to Beetle: A Life In Verse that intellectual property in the poems you plagiarised composed now lies entirely with The Meadow Hay Home for Genteel Displaced Guinea Pigs.

They may be reproduced by you for a small consideration of lettuce.

Habbibu · 29/01/2009 19:22

Why, hello there, Thready! See my highjack on this thread at 18:52 - can you help?

Tinker · 29/01/2009 19:41

Have very early posts from mn been deleted? (Was absent-mindedly searching Justine's "What do you do if your child will only eat jelly")

Can only get back to 28 Feb 2001. C'mon Justine, 'fess up. Were you Croppy?????

Swedes · 29/01/2009 19:43

Threadworm - I'm pleased you've cleared that up about the Beetle poetry anthology. I was wondering how I might sleep tonight knowing that my poem has been ripped from my breast.

LadyMuck · 29/01/2009 19:54

Justine is a mother of twins which might help you identify her. I think that there was a change of software/server which deleted many of the first year's posts.

LadyMuck · 29/01/2009 20:01

Sorry, didn't mean to dangle that as a clue for a hunt or anything. I think that she has been "outed" previously, but as her children will soon be old enough to come on here and search for her I'll leave it to her as to whether she would want to identify herself....

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JustineMumsnet · 29/01/2009 20:03

I don't know where those posts of gone tbh will ask Tech when he next mails me about his dieting regime.

Tamarto let's put it this way - this has been a v useful discussion as it has highlighted that our old and slightly stolen copyright statement probably needs a revamp!

Tinker no I wasn't croppy - think bells was croppy irrr...

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JustineMumsnet · 29/01/2009 20:04

LadyMuck I made it all up anyway . (though i do have twins and they are now shockingly old)

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JustineMumsnet · 29/01/2009 20:06

Duh! have gone, not of gone. (Am having Prosecco at the Towers as it's re-launch night) (shhh! it's YetMoreTech's big secret )

babypringle · 29/01/2009 20:07

JustineMumsnet - have you considered moral rights, as I think they are separate from copyright???