dear MN HQ could you please be so kind as to explain to me publicaly why you allow thread like the super race one

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to continue? IMO it has some very offensive posts on it, but you still have not pulled it.

They don't need to explain anything. You being personally offended does not constitute a crime. Not until that coup your are plotting happens anyway. Then I know I'll the one of the first against the wall, eh?

oh add a smiley and you are ok right!!!

as for me being personally offended what a pile of shit. I am not disabled so why would I be personally offended????

Oh, why? Becasue god forbit anyone try to inject some humour or brevity into this sanctimonious madness?

I think the hysteria on this thread is offensive but I would never ask MN to shut you up. Why on earth would I?

These are words. And they are being challenged - by you.

I have no idea what it is you are so offended by. Is it the OP, who doesn't pretend to be an authority on anything? Is it the basic question that you think is taboo? In which case, you would close down most ethics boards.

No one is saying what you think they are saying; namly that disabled people do not deserve to live. All you are doing is whipping yourselves up into so much of a frenzy, it's impossible for you to see anything clearly.

(Why did you think that particular comment was directed at you Ms? It was to the OP actually, But you obviously recognised yourself in the description..odd that)

think about it lol and you will get it.
It might give you a hint that I cannot be arsed to explain.

Please can I just say one thing; (and this is not the right thread to say it on) But: I HATE THE WORD DISABLIST and no, I do not know another word which would be better.

I have a child who has CP and my grandfather was also disabled, so if I am honest I have had a life time of people making nasty, disparaging and sarky remarks about my family. I hate it, its wrong, and I hope in my life time, that we will become a world, where every one regardless of race, creed, religion and abilty will be seen as equal.

saphron apologies, I never no what word to use to describe it, what would you suggest instead(never sure if disablist is an actual word ) I am more than happy to use a diferent word.

know not no

Actually I have reached a point where I do find some of these threads faintly amusing.

I LOVE how many people are prepared to write with huge authority and great understanding about having a disability or caring for a child with disabilities when they have not a farking clue.
Its right up thee with 'I know about race issues because my best friend is balck'.

The sad thing is that most of these people seem to think that the super race would be them - smug, patronising, delighted by their lack of experience,arrogant enoughto think that their ability to imagine a life with disability is equal to the experience of those iving it.
What a bunch of super wankers.

It would be so nice just occasionally to have someone post 'what is it like living with x - what do you feel is the hardest thing about living with y' - but thats not goping to happen.

FWIW every single difficulty in my sons life exists only when he is in a room with NT people. The hardest part of living with disability is without doubt the general public.

And these threads often allow them to convince themselves that their negative views are reasonable.

FWIW I don't ever have a problem with any individual choosing a termination.
My issue is with people perpetuating the idea that a life with disability is less of a life - which increases the liklihood that mothers, with no real understanding will terminate out of fears unknown and often unfounded

Amber, your 'logic' on your last post on other thread is truely abysmal

Look, white people are not equal. Black people are not equal. Muslims are not equal. Or Christians. They share a creed, or whatever, but they still compete with each other and there are winners and losers.

It's one thing to say lets try and stop wholesale discrimination, based on fear and hatred, but quite another to want 'true' equality. It doesn't, and never will, exist. Not until humans become clones.

Pagwatch, I am not, nor ever have, asserted that a life with discablity is less of a life. If people would calm down they would see that. As it is, they are giving themselves heart attacks for nothing.

There are many voices on this and the other thread. All of them assert an individual opinion that has been falsely contorted into one view by those getting their knickers in a twist. An opinion that is then called 'nazism'. It's pitchfork hysteria at its worst.

I never attributed that to you.

And I am not aware that my post is particularly hysterical. Neither do I feel particularly as if I need to calm down.

Are you just responding to anyone who presents an opposing view as if a)they are part of some group and b) they are always responding entirely to your posts?

Pitchfork hysteria ? I posted pitchfork hysteria - really?

i cant even read that thread

Well now we see the problem with blanket claims, don't we? We all get tarred with the same brush. Sometimes wantonly, it seems if it will add fuel to the fire

ROFL

I love that.
you chose to group my individual post in with some other posts and attributed pitchfork weilding and nazism claims etc etc to me.
When I point out that I have said no such thing you chose not to retract or accept that you were somewhat out of line but instead say
"yeah - well- see - thats what they were doing and I said it was wrong didn't I".

You must either be a politician or an 8 year old boy.

'white people are not equal.Black people are not equal...' At the risk of pointing out the bleeding obvious, All human beings' lives are of equal worth MT, which you are not denying I'm sure.

Well I happen to think the ability to remove disease causing genes from the gene pool is a good thing.

That does not mean I think all fetus' with genetic conditions should be terminated, or that I think disabled people are a drain on society. It's just a technological advance that could help a lot of people live longer and enjoy a better quality of life - if they choose it.

Holding that opinion does not make me a nazi or a bigot.

Of course not Ruty - but we need to work with the tools we have, persuade societies to vbe kinder and more egalitatian - not demand it. When people are forced into things, even if they were sympathetic to the aim, they resent it. People want to go on their own journeys of discovery and not be dictated to. If you want someone to do anything, the last thing you should do is get all high and mightly and lay it on the line for them regardless of how passioante you are about the issue.

I actually find it hard to believe you even asked me that. I've been posting on MN for years. When have I ever gave anyone such an idea?

Ok.
I called you neither.

Although I may possibly have called you a wanker but I would have to find your posts on the other thread to be sure. I hope I didn't. I was objecting to a few more exteeme posts when I said wanker - which i suspect was not you.

Oh Pagwatch. It is too much of a stretch to think that there are other ways of demoinstrating a point other than blasting it out? I don't just post blindly. I try to think of how a point will be made. Sometimes its best made by such sleight of hand. But yes, if it will make you feel better, I am an 8 year old politician.

FFS PAgwatch I know you called me neither. I have never said you did. Have you read the other thread?

Wanker is fine. I don;t mind wanker. I can defo be a wanker.

If I am an 8 year old boy, that would make me four then I started piosting on here. I'm a genius obvioulsy.