If you (still) feel the need to discuss Moldies [part 2]

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This thread is a continuation of this one. That one had become too big for its own boots the system to handle.

dont think the history is deleted unless its sommat dead serious

Was just beseeching the masses () after seeing Piffles post

But mrc - that's exactly the point. Several people did have real relationships with some of those who went off to join/form the Moldies.

It isn't deleted , when I deregistered I asked for my history to be deleted amd MNHQ said no.

Phew, I thought that there were masses of people de-resistering and getting their history deleted.

Its hard enough following half the threads now Cods messages have been deleted.

Not that I want anybody to leave.

Can I make a suggestion?

This thread is now over 700 messages long. Why don't we agree to let it end when it reaches the 1000 mark?

So there are 300 more opportunities to express any views before we can all agree to move on.

Well in my post I did say that those on here who had real relationships with those on the other site have reason to feel upset.

However, the vast majority of nonsense going on here is not that at all. It's either people who want to be part of a clique and are upset at not being invited or deluded women who think that a bit of internet 'chat' constitutes a friendship.

I've almost finished the entire bottle of Chablis now so please do not expect further intelligent conversation.

I'm kind of with MRC

Of those who are moldies, I suspect I have eaten at the same table with around a dozen or more and known around a handful for almost a quarter of my 41 years, before mumsnet was even conceived!

I'm not a moldie and I was never invited to join but I expect/hope to continue friendships regardless.

It's kind of like real life. (Well it is real life, AFAIC so maybe I should compare it to my 'local life' i.e. in my geographical community.) Sometimes I'd love to be going on a night out or meeting up for coffee or at the parents' assoc meeting with certain other parents from school for instance or old schoolfriends but in truth I have to admit that I don't have time for everything and I don't include all those people in everything I do. Sometimes I do get to see them/email/text them when it works out but I don't consider them any the less friends because I'm not involved in every aspect of their life, nor they in mine.

And so it should be with moldies and mumsnet. No-one, I hope, is one or the other although for whatever reason some people might eventually grvitate towards one or te other and stay there permanently.

I feel quite that there have been such hideous insults flung around just recently.

(Fully prepared to be completely ignored as usual!)

You are quite right, SueW - it should be like that. However, it's the secrecy and elitism about the Moldies that has been the real issue in all of this.

But never mind that. What about my suggestion?!

About 300 msgs and call it a day?

Life doesn't work like that!!

Nice suggestion though.

And I'm quite a good threadkiller so maybe this will be it

Well, 300 or so after all the other thousands doesn't seem too bad!

(just so you can't be accused of being a threadkiller!)

Re the secrecy - I've been involved in organising events in the past where select people have got themselves invited to tastings/previews of events/taken the freebies without letting anyone else know. Let them. I wouldn't do it to them and it hurts a little when I've first found out but I'd never let it get in the way for long. Draw a line, move on.

Anger, hate, guilt. All really negative emotions which prevent people from enjoying life. I do experience them - I'm no angel - butI know they don't do me any favours.

my positive emotions are coming out in MN whilst suffering PVFS and some of the posters I find inspirational to me

I hope everyone can move on from this and enjoy the fun, laughter, knowledge and escape from rl that MN and the posters have given me

happy new year to you all!

I hear you mrc. But I think that to characterize this schism as one based purely on personal emotion is a mistake. Some of us aren't hurt at all - we just object on principle and haven't been convinced by the justifications which have been advanced.

However, it would be very nice if we could all let it go. MN-ers could swallow hurt/principle, Moldies could swallow being criticised/personal justification. It's the only way it's going to happen, and will be an exciting updating of the synchronized swapping of spies on bridges in E Europe c.1971. You know - one, two, three - STO-O-OP!. Even under the provocation of stirrers, or those who have just discovered the whole thing.

IN principle. God.

I am finding it surprisingly hard to move on though. I am not at all upset on my own account, and agree with quattrocento that mumsnet will probably be a better place without all the "it's not like the old days" bleating and prefect mentality. I am however itchy all over with curiosity about the finer details of the voting/vetoing process.

Is it really true that nominees were subject not just to a simple yes or no vote, but a full bitchfest discussion of their worthiness? I keep seeing this alleged, followed by a moldy saying either "that's not true" or "that's not true any more". Which is it? And how many of us have been subject to this process without our knowledge?

I can't help feeling there are more beans to be spilled. Or have these things all been covered on deleted threads?

Oh hello, onebat. Yes you are right of course. I will try to swallow my curiosity. But it will be a mouthful of dry crackers.

but if i tell you, iorek, as someone who's been there and seen it ALL, will you promise to believe me? because all along i've told the truth and that's really not prevented a load of 'or so they say...' comments.

God yes. The curiosity is the killer. It's why I haven't hidden this thread while telling other people to do so

i've never seen any bitchfest. as far as i know the vetoing was private. i.e. you private message one of the moderators with your objections.

no public bitchfest whatsoever that i've seen.

but you know i've told people the process truthfully all along, TFM, and it hasn't ended a thing. quite the opposite.

Yes, aitch I do solemnly promise to believe you. As long as your account is the most convincing.

OK. So can we agree to allow only another 200 or so more posts before we finally, collectively, move on?

Please?