Trans identified Mumsnet member AidaP is scraping Mumsnet

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Hi Mumsnet, though you should know that a trans identified man - who often posts on Mumsnet as @aidap - is scraping the feminimism board, in order to create some sort of grading system.

It's basically electronic stalking.

What is this?

Oh yes, I have downloaded most of mumsnet and we will be doing embeddings of the content to try to understand how does the rot and hate builds and spreads.

I never had so much hate and delusion on my hard drive before 😅

https://bsky.app/profile/aidap.bsky.social/post/3mkklbtpgbs2s

I don't think there's much point in you and I getting into a discussion about this, as I think neither of us would gain anything from it.

But I'd start from the proposition that, if they are behaving in a lawful manner, and not engaging in public life (there's the private bit), then it's, at best, poor form to post shitty threads about their appearance and conduct.

If you want to change the law about use of changing rooms, access to employment, or whatever else, then by all means petition for that (and, genuinely, I think we'd agree on more than we disagree). But not by going after individuals and certainly not by mocking or 'transvestigating' them. To be clear, I'm not suggesting you've personally done either of these things, but you do seem fairly relaxed about it (feel free to disabuse me if I'm wrong).

This is an interesting point because I would absolutely agree with this. No one should be in a position where their daily lives include fear and harassment.
This includes both women and trans people.
Which brings us back to the original topic of this thread. We have a user openly scraping data of the predominantly female users of this forum, while being openly antagonistic and aggressive towards us.See the splintery rolling pin comment.
If you consider previous MN data breaches, then the ongoing attempts to get women doxed and sacked from their jobs by trans activists, then surely Aida's activity comes under this category too?
And this comes down to the heart of the conflict. I would be extremely surprised if Aida would be happy if a MN user was scraping something like r/transgender with the aim of exposing its users. But somehow it's okay when he does it.
So should women also be able to go about our lives without fear and harassment? Because Aida's activity can certainly be considered it.

And this comes down to the heart of the conflict. I would be extremely surprised if Aida would be happy if a MN user was scraping something like r/transgender with the aim of exposing its users. But somehow it's okay when he does it

From what I can see, it doesn't say anything about exposing users? Reading the blue sky post it just says that it's to get an idea of how ideas on MN get entrenched and where they start from. Something like that anyway.
Which seems weird to put it mildly but doesn't say anything about what you are saying from what I can see.

Thank you. You have phrased it brilliantly.

It is sinister, stalkerish, obsessive behaviour.

Women have been on the end of that from men for centuries.

The argument that over a period of a year (or possibly more) FWR, which usually has at least a couple of dozen active threads EVERY DAY, had TWO objectionable threads that were deleted, and that this proves that everyone active on FWR is hate-filled if not outright evil make precisely no sense at all.

Fifty five and a half thousand threads presently visible, versus two deleted threads, equals unmitigated and undiluted transphobia?

Not in my universe.

Really, not accusing me? I think that your post pages ago could be read as just that.

The law in the UK is clear now. So, if any male person is using any of those provisions that I mentioned in the post you are replying to, then they are not actually behaving in a 'lawful' manner.

If they are a male person and are not out in public trying to force female people to treat them as female when they are male, not using female single sex provisions as I described, why would any thread have any images of them or mention them at all?

The framing is absurd considering the many, many posts on that board that remain undeleted every day, yet there are accusations about specific and deleted behaviour being generalised behaviour.

"you do seem fairly relaxed about it (feel free to disabuse me if I'm wrong)."

Considering what you have posted on this thread so far, and that you posted a heart reaction emoji in what I consider bullying behaviour, then I don't give your opinions about me or any other poster any credibility at all.

I see the parallel, although I don't know the case you're referring to. I said that some people would benefit from thicker skins. Not everyone.

I note in passing you use the language of violence in your description: "torn apart". Unless they were literally torn apart, that's not accurate.

Again, in passing, what's wrong with "being trans"? If you subscribe to the view that "being trans" is an insult, perhaps that's your own internal transphobia interpreting the words.

Again, in passing, what's wrong with "being trans?

Nothing at all, and I haven't said otherwise.

You might want to google Urinary Leash. It’s the situation that prevailed before public toilets were available, either in shops or in public places like stations, or toilets maintained by local authorities. Women were essentially limited to moving outside the home according to how effective their bladder control was or how bold they felt about peeing in public from under a long skirt. Tricky enough in those days, even harder now when women wear clothing that makes weeing in public almost impossible to do discreetly and the ever present cctv camera mean someone is likely to be watching you.

We went once to a pub on the Harrow Road that discouraged women customers by the simple expedient of not having a ladies. I refused to go there again!

I don’t piss in public that’s not a solution
And is actually a criminal offence as of January 1 this year

Then how can anyone be "torn apart" for it?

Your implication is that there is a stigma in being trans.

I am not suggesting you do. I am merely pointing out that while you might be happy to always stay in fairly close proximity to your own toilet, others prefer to take a wider view of what they want out of life. And most of us choosing freedom of movement prefer not to share public toilets with TIM people who are possibly predators, perverts, peepers, and almost certainly have a penis.

Oh for goodness sake, how ridiculous.

talk about hyperbole, this thread is full of people catastophising. ffs just step away and disengage!

Except it's not ridiculous. The man is ramping up his behaviour, which given it wasn't pleasant or particularly sane before he got banned from here is rather concerning.

You are incredibly naive. You have no idea of how many feminists and women have been doxxed, had their home address published on the internet, how many have been physically assaulted and lost their jobs. It is so very far away from hyperbole, you are incredibly naive that you don't know what it is that you don't know.

Why have you repeatedly said the OP is doing this data scraping? It is clear the OP on this thread is reporting a user who is bragging about doing it.

The same now apparently banned MN user who has threated to rape JKR with "a splintery rolling pin".

When a person with gender incongruence seeks a diagnosis, UK doctors and HCPs are supposed to check whether the symptoms include transvestic fetishism or other paraphilias.

Here is the relevant entry, under '17, conditions related to sexual health.

'Description
Gender incongruence is characterised by a marked and persistent incongruence between an individual’s experienced gender and the assigned sex. Gender variant behaviour and preferences alone are not a basis for assigning the diagnoses in this group.

Exclusions
Paraphilic disorders(6D30-6D3Z)'

icd.who.int/browse/2026-01/mms/en#411470068

Are you aware of the doxxing of MN users by a previous mod? That the owner of the site was 'swatted'? the many DDOS attacks over the years? The previous scraping and 'sandbox' creation from Aston Uni that attempted to identify users across different boards?

If you visited the feminism boards, you'd be well aware of the many violent and aggressive threats towards women who speak up on these issues.

Unfortunately, it's something that needs to be borne in mind.

If it was true, would that be a good thing?

Not only that, but these accusations that male people with transgender identities are being mocked for their appearance while 'just going about their life' doesn't even make sense.

If a male person with a transgender identity was just going about their life and not doing anything unlawful or in anyway forcing other people to treat him as if he was a female person, why the fuck would anyone be posting any pictures of him on the internet in the first place?

Unless that male person was being celebrated for respecting female people by not accessing female single sex provisions and not forcing any person to treat him as if he was a female person.

There really seems to be some kind of disconnect between the accusations and the reality. I can only assume that these hyperbolic negative generalisations are to convince readers of behaviour that really doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

I hope you didn't mean me, Hedgey!

To add to the above:

I can only assume that these hyperbolic negative generalisations are to convince readers of behaviour that really doesn't stand up to scrutiny. While also supporting some posts that seem to imply that it is acceptable behaviour from this abusive man because some women behave so vilely towards him and in general, towards all male people with transgender identities.

Yes I'm sorry I actually did end up confusing myself as to who was the OP and who was the actual 'villain' (difficult to keep flipping up and down to see who posted what on my phone. What I was referring to was the person who the OP was highlighting as being determined to do MN post scraping. Apols for misstating.

however my point does still carry - do we actually know that the person is who they say they are, and therefore the threat we believe them to be. People pose as persona on MN without anyone ever seeing or meeting them in RL, and they may not be the person they try to pretend they are.