Can we have some sort of 'warning' for people who repeatedly post without reading all of OP's posts?

[HyggeTygge]

In the last 3 months or so I think this has gotten so much worse. Not only does it fill up the thread with pointless posts that have been addressed (sometimes days or weeks beforehand), it can actually be quite horrible - in one case a woman being slagged off because a few posters didn't read her sympathetic circumstances.

Could there be a 'report' reason just for this, and perhaps the posts don't need to be removed (but they could be?) but the user asked to 'see all' of OP's posts in future and shown how to do it? And repeat offenders suspended....?!

Or could it even be a note before posting if you go straight to post on a page where you couldn't possibly have read all of OP's posts?

I know it's easy to do, and obviously sometimes OP will update while people are in the process of typing and posting or they haven't refreshed. But when it keeps happening it's really frustrating on a thread and good helpful posts get missed in all the 'OP has actually updated to say this' 'well how was I supposed to know' derails.

'Cancel the cheque!!!' is still as much of an issue now as it was back then!

Divorce him.

And can we add in some way of discouraging people from replying to placemark on a thread. The watch feature does the job perfectly well and doesn't result in a thread that fills up in 5 minutes.

Shaun the sheep 😁

I used to think like that, but to be honest so many people placemark with something generic like 'Agreed', they may as well just put 'placemarking'.

I couldn't agree more. The Android app should be amended to allow it if it doesn't work, though; although I use an Android phone but in the browser.

I've tried to address this before to culprits in a kind, friendly way, but they usually get so angry and defensive and all "I'm a busy mum, dontchaknow" - and they genuinely cannot understand how they have been rude by weighing into a long conversation without having the basic decency and good manners to actually find out what it's about (beyond a title and single opening post - often they just skim the title and guess) and where it's developed to.

I wonder if some people think that MN is like Quora - so you have one opening post/question and a whole load of people replying in a vacuum to just that one post - rather than an actual discussion forum.

I don't think having a notice/warning about it would make any difference at all, sadly. The first rule of notices - however clear and prominent - is that the only people who ever see/bother to read them are the ones for whom they were never needed in the first place.

Drip feeding can be a problem, but it frequently isn’t to blame at all here. Situations and circumstances develop and new info is not known by anybody until things develop and progress and stuff has happened - often as a result of OP acting on advice and suggestions given in the thread. The ongoing Dyson Air Wrap threads, to name just two (or is it three yet?!).

I always remember the heartbreaking Anglesey thread when this kind of thing happens. When you chime in without being at all arsed to see how a thread has developed, your contribution may just be irrelevant and/or annoying; but in many instances, it can cause real upset to the OP and/or their loved ones when you just plough in, 600 messages in, and assume that you're psychic and instinctively know things without ever reading, hearing or learning them.

Oh well, I'd better go back on to the current films thread and inform the poster who made a genuine (and hardly groundbreaking) mistake that it was actually Art Garfunkel who sang Bright Eyes and not Paul McCartney. I know 20 people have already done this, but I just know that the message won't properly get through until I repeat it yet again...

That's exactly the sort of thing I mean. There are some threads where the majority of the posts are placemarking by saying something irrelevant or innane. Maybe on threads like that, MNHQ could post with instructions on how to watch a thread without cluttering it up.

Maybe 'placemarking' should be added to the instant hide list along with other words such as the sports shoes that sound a bit like Plymouth soles - at least make people work for it and be a little inventive if they're determined to clog up threads that way!

I'm on android, obviously then!

But again, I'd like to think they would be busier removing nasty/racist/abelist etc comments instead.

I just don't think they have the time to get involved to sooth mild irritation.

And then even if they did, posters who are irritated about other things would probably expect them to deal with those too.

Given their inability to remove racist anti-Irish posts, they're obviously not that busy doing that.

Haven’t RTFT but have you thought about a spa day?

I know I'm a bit of a technophobe but my android phone has a 'see all' option for the OP's posts - I always make a point of reading them all before commenting even if I cba to read all the repetitive comments.

Ok but that doesn't change what I'm saying.

They're not going to do any of this anyway so really this thread is just "things posters do that annoy the hell out of me "

If an app is not fit for purpose, then Mumsnet should not have it at all. Why have an app that doesn't even have the functions it should.

I've just come away from a thread where the OP had originally been incredibly unreasonable in a situation with her SIL. She was faced with a barrage of very blunt responses in her thread, but instead of running away and saying 'you're all horrible' she actually listened, found it hard, but reflected, recognised where her behaviour had come from, was mortified, and has done a U turn and apologised to the family member.

However she's still having to face posts from people who haven't bothered reading beyond the OP and are continuing to berate her. It's all so unnecessary.

I hate it when that happens. I think OPs are best off hiding the thread in that case.

The one that always sticks in my memory is the woman who posted about unexplained bloating. As she documented her diagnosis with and treatment of ultimately fatal ovarian cancer over a period of months, posters would pop up suggesting she cut out gluten.

Always, always at least scan the OP's posts before commenting.

The response to these these days seems to be back to good old "challenge on the thread, we're not going to delete it".

We used to manage with the browser version for years before filtering to see just the OPs comments was introduced. It's a very useful convenience but not a necessity.
I use the iOS apps on phone and iPad - they do have filtering but don't have various other features. I prefer it because it's more readable (less clutter, more space for larger text is useful as one becomes longsighted!). If I need something that's not in the app, I just switch to the browser...not exactly difficult.

But in some cases that could mean a huge amount of information about things the OP doesn’t realise will be relevant or does not want to discuss. Family situations are often very complicated nowadays.

And however much information is in the OP, things change and move on.

An OP might be about a neighbour problem, & the first few posts would suggest she talks to the neighbour. She might do that, post again to say the neighbour had told her to fuck off. It’s not at all helpful if idiots are still posting that she should talk to the neighbour.

I think y'all need to spend less time on mumsnet tbh.

Amen to that!

That's my ultimate goal which is why I like threads not to be cluttered up by pointless posts that aren't relevant because they didn't read the info and all the resulting derails!