Can we have some sort of 'warning' for people who repeatedly post without reading all of OP's posts?

[HyggeTygge]

In the last 3 months or so I think this has gotten so much worse. Not only does it fill up the thread with pointless posts that have been addressed (sometimes days or weeks beforehand), it can actually be quite horrible - in one case a woman being slagged off because a few posters didn't read her sympathetic circumstances.

Could there be a 'report' reason just for this, and perhaps the posts don't need to be removed (but they could be?) but the user asked to 'see all' of OP's posts in future and shown how to do it? And repeat offenders suspended....?!

Or could it even be a note before posting if you go straight to post on a page where you couldn't possibly have read all of OP's posts?

I know it's easy to do, and obviously sometimes OP will update while people are in the process of typing and posting or they haven't refreshed. But when it keeps happening it's really frustrating on a thread and good helpful posts get missed in all the 'OP has actually updated to say this' 'well how was I supposed to know' derails.

'Cancel the cheque!!!' is still as much of an issue now as it was back then!

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/mumsnet_classics/2630932-Post-wedding-message-please-help-me-what-the-hell-do-I-say

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Hi all,

Just to say that we've read through this thread (and the suggestions). We really value the feedback and will discuss it in the office.

Again sometimes this is relevant to do for example where there's been a long thread and you are referring to something in the OP.

@IdylicDay MN is definitely social media!!! Lol. And even if it wasn't it's still not a job! It's Kent to be enjoyable. Not a task to be undertaken!

Oh thank you; sorry @CowTown.

Yes plus the reason I like MN is that there aren’t too many rules and regs. There’s way too much policing of everything these days, it feels oppressive and unpleasant. We can’t, don’t need to and shouldn’t try to police everything just because a few people find something a bit annoying.

"If you're asking a question, though, you could just re-read the OP before pressing post."

Exactly. If it's something very basic and you read the OP very quickly, go back and check before asking the question.

Agreed!

Part of the problem is that a busy thread can have 100 replies while you've had to disappear to another window to do some actual work work in the middle of your reply, as opposed to just sitting on MN and finishing your post. This moves the topic on so when you return 5 minutes later to finish off your post on the thread you're not aware of someone else's comment and OP's reply.

Maybe we could have a specific emoji, which we could then tag the offending poster with, to make it evident that they need to RTFT!

It's incredibly annoying, but I really don't think MNHQ have the time to be able to do this. So I think it's probably up to us as posters to deal with it. (Within Talk Guidelines, of course )

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ABSOLUTELY agree you shouldn't be able to quote the OP either. That's literally what people are replying to unless they say otherwise!

So if something is making it less fun or enjoyable, should we ask to reduce the incidences of this happening, or not?

If you personally find it unpleasant to read an OP's posts beyond the first few sentences then I would suggest that posting on forums isn't for you.

But equally if a person finds these things so irritating they want an already overstretched MNHQ to have to police those things, I would suggest posting here isn't for them either.

I disagree. Often it's clearly an ongoing situation, perhaps posted a day or more ago. They aren't going to be able to post updates before they happen - that's down to people who feel they need to contribute to the thread to read for themselves.

There are definitely people who post OPs and I (mentally) facepalm because they haven't included a lot of relevant info, but these aren't the threads I'm seeing that I'm talking about - if it's missing relevant info then people usually ask.

I agree it’s annoying but no, I don’t agree it should be policed. What next, disciplining people for spelling mistakes or leaving out apostrophes?

No, those aren't really conversation etiquette issues, so I don't think that would be a consequence of asking people to read the thing they are talking about.

I have no idea whether MN are over- or under-stretched enough to be able to add an additional radio button to the 'Report' page or not, hence posting here to ask. It could be an overwhelming ask, I don't know.

And yes, if threads continue to get derailed by people just bashing away at the keyboard regardless of what has been posted then I will stop finding it useful here and will go elsewhere. It would be a shame though as I've learned so much stuff from MN posters over the years, from the trivial to the essential.

I didn't realise that 'see all' wasn't an option on the app, so it would be unfair to introduce this.

I'm sure in the old days people would scroll through a thread, including others' replies, before saying something - but also it was a quieter place generally.

Scroll back to the copy and past from MNHQ that I posted earlier.

They're very overstretched, and the Spam Bots seem to be taking up a lot of their time too.

I think as members we need to practice a little patience and learn to do a bit more scrolling by.

Difficult at times, but still easier for us to do that than to keep getting moderators involved.

I think as members we need to practice a little patience and learn to do a bit more scrolling by.
I agree, but in order to know that something is not worth reading, you need to read it first

Not saying my ideas were the best ideas - perhaps making 'see all' more obvious somehow would cut it down a bit. I seem to recall a while ago people getting annoyed with Very Old Threads getting reanimated and no-one noticing the date, but that seems to have died down a little of its own accord (or I'm just not seeing them).

Difficult at times, but still easier for us to do that than to keep getting moderators involved

I think this is what it keeps coming back too. Mumsnet doesn't have moderaters, we self moderate.

It comes down to making a choice. There are plenty of heavily moderated forums out there if that's what people want. We don't need it here.

Sometimes it's not an ongoing situation and it really is a case of a poorly written OP. For example, I'm currently on a thread where both things have happened. The poster is annoyed that a colleague threw away some of her things left on her desk when he had to use her desk. There are questions and questions either asking whether it's a shared desk or just asserting that it is when it isn't. OP could have avoided all that by specifying in the OP that it's her allocated desk, but colleagues occasionally use it temporarily.

On the other hand, there are other questions and comments about 'clear desk policy' trying to blame the OP for leaving papers on her desk in the first place. I wouldn't argue that OP should have specified that her organisation doesn't have a clear desk policy because people shouldn't be assuming that in the first place. In this case, it's up to posters to look at all the OP's posts to find out there is no clear desk policy. It does make for a very frustrating read.

Yes I agree with this. I also think people should NOT be able to quote someone's post if it was less than 10 posts ago. I have seen this happen with mine and that of many others too. And if it's a long one it's soooo annoying. A ten-paragraph, 600 word post reposted within 2-3 minutes, and around 2-5 posts after! Ridiculous!

I've had a number of occasions where someone has reposted a post of mine within half a minute of me submitting it, and their post was directly after mine. WTAF was the point in reposting a post that someone has only just submitted? Especially one that's 500-600 words long?!

Not sure how MN is going to police people responding to the OP's first post with an answer people have already given though @HyggeTygge That will be a really tall order to police that. Can't see this happening. Then again, I can't see them policing people reposting someone's lengthy posts 30 seconds after they posted it either!

I either quote (or copy and paste the relevant part) of any post other than the OP so it's clear what I'm replying too.

Personally I hate it when someone just @s someone else, or even me. Chances are I can't remember what was said so the reply doesn't mean anything.

I’d like to be able to partially quote rather than copying / pasting the bit I’m replying to in a longer post