Dear Mumsnet please could we have a 'Larger Families' section?

[PaulaYatesBiggestFan]

rather like the 'multiples' section

it could be for 4+ children maybe and we can all get together and discuss how to run home soup kitchens/chinese laundry and whether or not Nick Leeson had the right idea for how to finance our broods?

I have mooted it before and people seem quite keen - it is different having a lot of children and it helps to have support

Thanks !

Sorky, afterpains didn't get worse each time with me. They were usually quite strong for the first 24/48hrs and then mild. Uterus was always contracted back down behind pelvis by day7. Due, I think, to bf and drank lots of rrl tea.

well.....I won't tell you that for #4 and #5 I was almost passing out then.

and not that I needed stronger pain mads than they gave the caeserean mums then!!!!

oh no.....not me!!!!!

(I did tho have retained placenta with #5 tho which had a LOT to do with the pain, altho the MW didn't notice and all they could say was ..... "oh, well what do you expect???.....It IS your fifth??

(in fact, I ended up being really really ill because of that comment so I can only be honest for #4.....and that was painful!!)

BUT....for me......the stronge afterpains did mean that I could leave hospital wearing sz10 clothes, so there was an upside....pulled my tummy very flat!

Yes that makes sense as I b'fed loads for first 2/3 days, thanks juule.
bizarre what worries you isn't it?

can i ask another ? ten, do your deliveries become faster with subsequent births?

psychomum, it's the only saving grace that i too have a flat stomach, i'm sure due to the severity and speed with which i shrunk back from b'fing.

god it hurt tho

Which bit? 1st stage, 2nd stage or all of it?

Psychomum - sounds like you had a rough time midwives being so dismissive is no help either

4th and 5th births were the same length as 1st and 2nd....but.....with #4 I had had a car accident at 30wks and broken my ribs and then gone into prem labour (which thankfully they stopped), but they had to induce me at 36wks as my ribs were being pushed apart by the pregnancy so weren;t healing, so it all went slightly to pot anyhow.

pushing stage with #2-5 was 5cms to birth in 10mins!!!!

was only with #5 I went thro hell with the placenta!

and excluding #5, I bounced back and healed from the births really quickly....even given the broken ribs etc!

my afterpains with no5 were worse than the labour,but the labour was quick and pretty painless once it got going(induced).2nd stage lasted 2 minutes

psychomum-i am very of you leaving hospital in a size 10.i lost my pregnancy weight within 3 months with no3+4 but no5 is one now and i still weigh the same as i did 2 weeks after i had her(which is the same as i weighed at 6 months pregnant)

WHAT??????

I cannot believe these deliveries and am

I still had jellybelly for weeks after my births and usually didn't all baby weight until stopped bfing.

Juuule.......I 'died' during the first op after #5 to take the placenta away as they didn;t believe me for 2wks that I was in that much pain....and then during the op I had an allergic reaction to ones of the drugs sending me into anaphalactic[sp?], and they had to give me many drugs to bring me back. DH remembers it all being hell, and he and DS2 was made to stay with me for the first 48hrs after the op to keep me with it (ie, hearing the baby kept me going!).

problem was, cos they ignored me for so ong, the placenta broke down and to get all of it out took a further two ops.

took until DS2 was 7wks before I could function on my own again, and thencos of all I had gone thro, and all the drugs, and the fact that I kept breastfeeding throughout, all the drugs went into DS2 and into his liver causing him to stop growing and go yellow from 8wks to 20wks.

he also now has a bowel condition which altho we have no proof, I am sure is connnected.

was also the reason we don;t have more, as DH was so scared by it all (it was like a seen from ER apparently), he insisted on no more. I was gutted for a long long time, but then, I feel I would never have been able to carry another so it is the right choice. not fair, but still the right thing for us all as a family,

juule i never lose the weight till i stop feeding most annoying!

OMG Psychomum, that sounds absolutely dreadful!

How can they say such things?

erm all of it I suppose, do you opt for home births because you won't get to the hospital on time?

I had a homebirth this time (baby no.4, 6 months). Just because I felt more comfortable being at home and like I knew what I was doing. It was quicker overall. But best bit was definitely getting into your own bed afterwards (own bath and toilet too!).

Afterpains were no worse for me than the previous 3.

ok.....after pains for me....

#1, none at all, altho I did hemorrage (sp?) after so had lots of drugs to make my uterus shrink quickly!

#2, no bleed, easy very quick birth (5cms to birth in 10mins), and after pains eased by paracetmol. BUT, I did make baby wait for a feed on day 2 so that the pills good kick in first as BF made them 100x worse.

#3, fell 5day before birth so suffered traumatic SPD and was on pain meds for that anyway, so afterpains were dealt with by using a tens machine and hot water bottle and paracetomol. lovely.

#4, car accident at 30wks, broken ribs, on codiene anyway so after pains (altho really hideous) covered by those drugs!

#5, retained placenta which they missed, passing out with the pain, MW's evil, yada yada.....hell all round

In my view, tens machine and hot water bottle and paracetomol was the best form of pain relief.

thanks

Has peachy delivered yet?

Well,afterpains........ bloody hell fire
By the time I got to number 5 I thankfully had a midwife with the good sense to tell me to take paracetamol and ibuprofen 2 hourly no matter what I was feeling like. It saved me. I just took them religiously for the first few days post baby.
With number 4 I had no such advice and the after pains were as bad as labour except they shot through my legs as well,

sorky - I had bad after pains with dd1 (1st baby) - and a scarey recurrence of them when she was 5wks old and we were staying with PILs in blimmin Switzerland

But no recollection of anything bad with the subsequent ones, so it got easier for me

We were doing really well on the Easter eggs in this house, til we went down to DH's parents Now they are piling up... but not 30, thank goodness

psycho - just read your #5 there. I had retained placenta with both #3 and #4 Horrible isn't it? They realised, but the pain of the midwife trying to get it out - OMG I nearly punched the poor woman.

How are everyone's bodies standing up to lots of pregnancies then? Any Demi Moores can leave the thread now...

tickle....they missed mine for so ong that mine were done under general anaesthetic, which altho hideous, far far safer for the midwife.

not gonna say how well my body held up otherwise cos I will be forced out (altho my pelvic floor was punished)

I am not sure that I dare add this post BUT it might make sorkycake feel somewhat hopeful so here goes:

I have never experienced a single afterpain. I bf as well but never experienced any pain. Relatively quick deliveries here as well though longish labours.

Psychomum5: Your story about the retained placenta has reminded me of why I need to stop at 4... I had similar with my second BUT once they actually believed that something was really wrong at least the op went smoothly and despite the pain and awful anti-biotics for ages, I recovered quickly. Your poor DH. I can only imagine what it must be like to stand and watch it all unfold whilst being able to do nothing to help. about DS2's liver and bowel. Very stressful this parenting lark...

All four of mine are DHs as well. I fall in the same camp as previous posters that think a DNA test might be needed to prove that I am the biological mother. They all look very much like their dad and each other. In fact, DH has a brother with 5 children and when they are all together it is impossible to tell who are siblings and who are cousins.

oh yeah...forgot to add......all kiddies are mine and DH's.

we got married when I was 20 and am now 35.(at the age of me!)

plus.....we met when I was 16 on a blind date, so have now been together a whole life-time for me IYGWIM!!!!

So Psycho gets a Demi award Or maybe she is Demi?? Relieved to hear you're not up to trampolining though...

My scrapes were also done under GA - we live on a small island and it was just luck there was a gynae consultant there for a meeting for #3, and she did it... otherwise I would have been on the helicopter half an hour after giving birth

Was on the helicopter in labour with #4, but that's another story

I just noticed that I am not on 'the list'... Maybe I have already been asked to leave?

After a really stressful 18months in Austria I actually weigh less than when I was first pg with DS1 but I am not sure that it is a good thing. I also suspect that I shall start to pack it all back on now that I am much happier in Switzerland and surrounded in yummy chocolate.

am sure there are other 'demi's' here !!!!

intrigued by the helicopter birth/ride.......spill please