Moderation Sex Board

[onirgellep]

Back in February Justine* committed to an urgent review of moderation of the Sex Board subsequent to the considerable concerns mainly arising from the longstanding Sex Chat thread

Unsurprisingly, issues continue

Would it be possible to have an update on the progress of the review?

And hear when do you anticipate it being completed and the new moderation put into action?

Thank you

I'm afraid I'm unable to link Justine's post on the thread References to Underage Sex on the Sex Board* page 13

I’m absolutely disgusted by what I’ve just read. There’s a contingent here in this thread who consistently are ignoring MN’s request not to make personal attacks. The group swoop in and pick on one member of the opposition, it’s very intimidating. I have reported this thread for harassment of @Surplus2requirements . Shame on you all.

Here we go again.

’We don’t like what we’re hearing so we say we’re being bullied and harassed ’.

I too was disgusted but by different things.

The man you claim is being bullied defended a man who intimidated another poster by asking them to find sex sites for him. That same man minimised many posters feelings on the matter. This man claims to care about people bring safe but doesn’t report threads he finds more graphic than on the sex topic that he was surprised was there due to the nature of the content.

I could go on.

Calling this stuff out doesn’t equal bullying.

People here are making excellent points about the issues on the sex board.

They’re talking about the sort of moderation that could be used to help the situation. Some have mentioned that maybe it’s not possible to have a sex board anymore due to the safeguarding issues raised.

It’s very, very obvious that certain posters want yet another thread shut down so that these extremely valid concerns and suggestions can’t be talked about. It’s very obvious why they would want this shut down.

I hope mumsnet can see what we can see here and don’t fall for the claims of bullying.

I brought up the rugby league thread as a consideration in a discussion about safe guarding and moderation and how those concerns may apply to MN as a whole.

Having read your comment, I think it was whataboutery. A thread on a other board that may have been inappropriate, being brought up by you and compared to the sex board posts, as a way to justify some of the disgusting things posted over there.

You are apparently concerned about safeguarding, yet didn’t report it. You want women to be safe yet defend a male poster who asked another poster on this thread to find sex sites. When women said they were uncomfortable, you told them they were taking it too seriously.

You may want to tell us you are concerned for women, safeguarding and want moderation, but your posts seem to say something different at times.

The board needs robust moderation and soon, if it has to stay. Someone mentioned mumsnet were against a sex board for years, they should look again at why they felt that way and what is happening now.

It's clear there are attempts to derail this thread so as to get it deleted. When they haven't worked the ante has been upped.

I fell for it.

I won't again.

I cannot see any bullying but I can see that there are some attempts to derail the thread and get it deleted.
It is important that this thread stays up.

It was your turn 😕

It is very important that this thread stays up.

We must ensure that this thread stays up.

Despite my negativity above I actually agree with you on that

Even Reddit manages to do better

@TheShellBeach i can’t imagine why anyone would want the thread deleted. What purpose would that serve? MN gave clear guidelines for this thread, only discuss the topic in hand. Follow the guidelines and there would be no reason to delete the thread.

If we go by what certain members want @Mermaidparades we wouldn't even be able to challenge each other's thinking at all.

And if you can't see the deliberate attempts to derail for what they are, then I'm not sure what Anyone can say that will be of any use.

By starting a thread about the sex board, all you are doing is drawing more traffic to the board now.....

The alternative is that potentially, illegal activities are allowed to stand unchallenged on that board.

I know which I prefer.

But that's what MNHQ's job is. Leave the staff to it to police the sex board and/or any other board on the site.

But site stuff as a board exists to alert MNHQ to issues.

That's what is being done here.

@horridjobescapee it isn’t members wishes, it was MNHQ.
Please don’t question my intelligence just because I hold a different opinion to you.

Maybe

Maybe more browsing traffic having their own view of what they see there, both positive and negative

This controversy doesn't seem to have increased posting there - rather the reverse as confirmed by one of the regulars there on a now deleted thread

But if so, it's not all that's happening

@Pixiedust1234 I've just doubled checked as I was sure it couldn't be true, but yes it's visible even if you're not logged in. 😲

I'm really surprised as lots of other sites have specific boards that are only viewable to those logged in, when it comes to the Sex board I thought that would basic safeguarding step.

I also checked last night. I was astounded.

As I said earlier, even Reddit require logging in and confirming you're over 18 for NSFW

Firstly, stop calling users of the sex board "sex people". It's offensive and disgusting. Grow up.
Also, you have all gone off on pages worth of personal attack against 1 user who didn't report a thread that thousands of people saw commented on.
Then are making out that user was trying to derail the thread?!! You derailed it yourselves ffs!
If your not capable of discussing something without making personal comments/attacks as mumsnet have requested then I suggest you don't post on here.
And if it was that rugby thread it got plenty of reports and mumsnet were happy to let it stand. I remember the 'outrage' from last time.

The requirement to log in would seem to be the most basic step towards safeguarding and I can't really see any excuse for it not being in place.

I also hope this thread doesn't get deleted

I hope MNHQ will return to the thread with an update but suspect it will be Monday at least before there is anything further from them, as I'm sure they have less staff on the weekends (and possibly no senior staff available on the weekends).

There is lots of content on mumsnet not suitable for children. Not just on the sex topic. Rape, domestic violence etc but also many things in relationships, mental health, birth trauma. They are adult conversations that are not suitable for children to be reading.

As mumsnet say- they're a site for adults. Children should not be here.

As we all know, unfortunately the nature of the Internet means there is a lot of unsuitable content that children have access to. We can educate children but realistically if they look for it, they will easily find it.

I'm sure even with sites like reddit you can put in a fake age etc to view sexual content. And press to confirm you're over 18 is pointless, but I guess at least that's a step in the right direction.
Back to 90 days to post on the sex topic would also deter trolls etc.