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Web Chat Suggestion - QC on Rights When Approaching or Being Approached by Police

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MelodyPondsMum · 04/10/2022 13:36

I'm not sure if this is the right place and you've been tagged in the thread where I originally suggested it but thought I'd put it here too. My original post is in italics and bold.

I wonder if we could get MNHQ to do a webchat with a QC about women's rights concerning arrests/cautions/vexatious complaints, etc - basically any interactions with the police.

The QC could provide a detailed checklist on what to do when faced with a police officer at the door; an officer determined to gain entry; an officer casually referencing sectioning, etc because threads on here show that some posters seem to think random Googles are the same as understanding the law and their rights. It isn't.

Also, is it possible to have a group litigation order against the police? Women need to mobilise collectively around these particular issues with the police.

Women are regularly dismissed when the try to report VAWG, stalking and harassment. The End Violence Against Women Campaign has called for action regarding the wider culture in the police that fails women and enables perpetrators. Women are often dismissed and sent away.

Women are also being disproportionately targeted under Hate Incidents legislation.

Yy there are general rights that all people have when approached by the police or approaching the police. But there are also issues peculiar to women eg

  • women are more likely to be care givers so there are issues around childcare (and police threatening mothers with SS involvement to 'watch' their DCs whilst they are at the station);
  • there are issues around the weaponising of MH issues and vulnerabilities (threatening with sectioning but not providing appropriate medical supervision or assessment)
  • there are issues around searching (both of houses and persons)- taking into account sex, periods, religious beliefs, etc
  • there are issues around how to act if you believe the original complaint has been made maliciously
  • there are issues around how to get a complaint regarding VAWG taken seriously

I think it would be very beneficial for MNHQ to provide a reliable source of information to ensure women are aware of their rights. I also think a webchat would raise the profile of the issues that women face and how disproportionately the laws are currently applied depending on your sex.

Yy there is lots of information in different places on the web but it would be good to have the information in one place, and for up-to-date advice in light of the changing legal landscape. TIA

OP posts:
user1477391263 · 28/10/2022 10:33

Yes yes yes!!!

AlisonDonut · 28/10/2022 10:54

Thank you Dennis, that would be superb. <Waves pompoms>

comfyoldcardi · 28/10/2022 12:14

Hurray! Thank you Dennis. Which board would be best to reach more people?
Also, maybe you and Glinner could do a you tube video? Or is that being a bit greedy?

Pixiedust1234 · 28/10/2022 12:26

Thank you for the offer (and for op asking here), but can I ask for a written form and not just a video? I cant process audio at all.

AlisonDonut · 28/10/2022 12:37

If it was on You Tube there is now an automatic transcription that you can have as they talk.

Emotionalsupportviper · 28/10/2022 13:25

feindVicarInATutu · 28/10/2022 06:20

Might name change to "THE POSTER"

Sounds quite formidable.

I like it!

It has gravitas.

<nods approvingly>

Emotionalsupportviper · 28/10/2022 13:27

DennisNoelKavanaghOffTwitter · 28/10/2022 10:29

Hi, sorry, only just seen this

I'd be happy to discuss the legal characteristic of arrests / best practice in volatile situations etc not a problem.

Thank you, Dennis.

You star!

BoreOfWhabylon · 28/10/2022 14:59

@DennisNoelKavanaghOffTwitter
Thank you Dennis!
Could you perhaps start a thread in the AMA section of Mumsnet? Or would you like someone to strat one for you?
www.mumsnet.com/talk/AMA
(Hoping the new ownership means that you will be able to return to Twatter soon)

DennisNoelKavanaghOffTwitter · 29/10/2022 21:19

How bout I record a YouTube, post that in AMA and take it from there maybe?

AlisonDonut · 29/10/2022 21:51

That would be superb thank you Dennis.

CampariAndSoda · 29/10/2022 21:55

This excellent. Thank you.

beastlyslumber · 29/10/2022 23:56

Brilliant, thanks 😊

HatThatWearsYou · 30/10/2022 01:29

Thank you

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 30/10/2022 01:50

Yes please. And, specifically, what happens in Scotland. Things are getting a little bit heated here now. Can't believe I haven't been arrested for heresy already.

DennisNoelKavanaghOffTwitter · 31/10/2022 20:10

Hey everyone,

Have posted a short video in AMA re powers of arrest

Link here

AlisonDonut · 31/10/2022 20:43

Thanks Dennis, much appreciated. Just off to watch it now.

TheBiologyStupid · 31/10/2022 21:10

Yes, thanks Dennis - will watch as soon as I get the chance.

Emotionalsupportviper · 31/10/2022 21:40

Cheers!

AlisonDonut · 31/10/2022 21:50

www.mumsnet.com/talk/AMA/4667316-short-video-on-legal-characteristics-of-arrest-criminalcivil-law

Link to the thread. Probably worth sharing the video across any safe social media accounts if you can.

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