Page 12 | war topic

Samcro · 2022-02-14T11:15:08+00:00

any chance of a covid style war topic for all the "are we going to war " threads please.

labyrinthlaziness · 27/02/2022 06:32

[quote Associatepeggy]@labyrinthlaziness that's what the the thread is about. You could read just one or two pages and find out a myriad of reasons.

Some people would like to hide the whole topic. But there's a ton of other reasons.[/quote]
I have read it, I just don't agree. Is that not allowed now either?

Associatepeggy · 27/02/2022 06:41

I have read it, I just don't agree. Is that not allowed now either?

You didn't say you didn't agree.

You said you didn't think it should be hidden. It was pointed out they wouldn't be.

Then you said I mean I don't understand why people need to hide from all reference to it. and I pointed out they don't.

Then you changed what you said again to Why do people want it in its own topic then? I thought it was so they could hide the topic?, I pointed out there are many reasons in addition to some eantes to hide the whole topic and they are listed here. If you read the whole thread you would already know its not the only reason.

Now you are saying you don't agree with the reasons. I never said you couldn't disagree, I was answering what you actually posted, despite the fact that you kept changing your mind about what you meant.

labyrinthlaziness · 27/02/2022 06:47

@Associatepeggy

Calm down a bit. You're making it a bit more than it needs to be, it's a little thread about whether a currently popular thread subject needs a topic, that's all.

My view is people don't need to hide things, just scroll by, so I don't think it needs its own topic.

Do have a lovely day.

Associatepeggy · 27/02/2022 06:52

[quote labyrinthlaziness]@Associatepeggy

Calm down a bit. You're making it a bit more than it needs to be, it's a little thread about whether a currently popular thread subject needs a topic, that's all.

My view is people don't need to hide things, just scroll by, so I don't think it needs its own topic.

Do have a lovely day.[/quote]
Oh dear. Lovely PA and misogynist comments to try and shut people down. Well done.

How would you know how calm I am? Just an unfounded assumption because other attempts at shutting my replies down didn't work?

I hope you have the day you deserve

labyrinthlaziness · 27/02/2022 06:58

@Associatepeggy

Passive aggressive, yes, intentionally so.
Misogynist, not in my opinion, but you are free to interpret people as you wish. Your view of me (a complete stranger) is not my problem and you are welcome to project if it makes you feel better.

dfendyr · 27/02/2022 07:02

@FinallyFree2022

PLEASE

then the ambiguously titled threads can easily be identified as being related to the topic and not clicked on unintentionally.

And what makes you think that people who can't title a thread properly will even find the right topic??

"Posting in aibu for traffic"

labyrinthlaziness · 27/02/2022 07:05

Posting in aibu for traffic

Yes this is always going to happen. IMO AIBU is and should remain a bit of a free-for-all.

Associatepeggy · 27/02/2022 07:07

[quote labyrinthlaziness]@Associatepeggy

Passive aggressive, yes, intentionally so.
Misogynist, not in my opinion, but you are free to interpret people as you wish. Your view of me (a complete stranger) is not my problem and you are welcome to project if it makes you feel better.[/quote]
Telling women, who disagree with you, is widely known to misogynistic. The fact that you don't know that is definitely your issue.

The only projecting here, is by you. Assuming you know how calm I must be, from a written word on a page. Again, just because I responded to your posts on an open forum. I am guessing telling me I must not be calm, made you feel better. Very odd.

labyrinthlaziness · 27/02/2022 07:29

Shall we just drop it @Associatepeggy?

Neither of us know each other, what is the purpose of this exchange? What will we get out of continuing? You can label me a misogynist if you wish to. I do not have to accept what you choose to label me and I do not accept your view.

Is this really how you want to spend your time? It isn't how I want to spend mine.

I don't think the war needs to be put into its own topic. That was the only point I actually wanted to make on the thread and I will leave it there.

merrymouse · 27/02/2022 07:43

Yes this is always going to happen. IMO AIBU is and should remain a bit of a free-for-all.

Fine if you are in the mood for a pile on or want to get into it on a parking thread, but not a good way to promote informed discussion about a serious subject.

AIBU will always promote the most click-baity threads while other topics drift off the front pages. If all the dog topics were on AIBU it would be easy to find a post on ‘AIBU to think dogs should never be off lead’ and difficult to see a 2 day old post on ‘are labradors prone to arthritis’?

There is a separate discussion about whether threads should be moved. The two arguments for having this policy on Ukraine are

1). The nature of the site is that many people will be posting here and seeking advice because they are going through something traumatic. If they want to filter out information on Ukraine while discussing this, why on Earth not?

People who don’t understand this fundamentally misunderstand the nature of the site. It is not Reddit.

2). Many of the threads on Ukraine are ill informed, repetitive and border line trolling.

ClaudineClare · 27/02/2022 08:50

@merrymouse

Yes this is always going to happen. IMO AIBU is and should remain a bit of a free-for-all.

Fine if you are in the mood for a pile on or want to get into it on a parking thread, but not a good way to promote informed discussion about a serious subject.

AIBU will always promote the most click-baity threads while other topics drift off the front pages. If all the dog topics were on AIBU it would be easy to find a post on ‘AIBU to think dogs should never be off lead’ and difficult to see a 2 day old post on ‘are labradors prone to arthritis’?

There is a separate discussion about whether threads should be moved. The two arguments for having this policy on Ukraine are

1). The nature of the site is that many people will be posting here and seeking advice because they are going through something traumatic. If they want to filter out information on Ukraine while discussing this, why on Earth not?

People who don’t understand this fundamentally misunderstand the nature of the site. It is not Reddit.

2). Many of the threads on Ukraine are ill informed, repetitive and border line trolling.

3) Scaremongering threads about petrol being panic bought/whether or not the banks are safe etc.

Sparklingbrook · 27/02/2022 09:21

I only discovered very recently, because of a thread moaning about a sex thread not being in the correct topic, that there was a sex topic.

Not everyone goes into the individual topics and instead uses most active

When MNHQ post on a thread about sex that's popped up in Chat saying 'we're going to move this thread to the Sex topic now' then people discover the sex topic.

I look at Most Active (unless talking about the cat and wanting that topic mainly) but because I've hidden all of the topics I'm not interested in particularly it's a list of threads I might want to see hopefully.

Original poster

Samcro · 27/02/2022 09:46

i am just hiding the threads. think I hid about 15 yesterday. they are all nonsense anyway.
would be so much easier to hide a topic.

OP posts:

Sparklingbrook · 27/02/2022 09:57

It might get better. Once everyone has started their own individual brain fart thread about worst case scenarios with random thoughts about what's the most unlikely thing to happen and how to deal with it.

I think so far it's panic buying, filling up with petrol, taking all of your savings and stuffing them under the mattress, and having a place to flee to.

Parpophone · 27/02/2022 10:01

I glanced at the "where would you flee to?" one this morning.

Hilarious. If it comes to the point when people need to flee the UK (spoiler alert - this isn't going to happen) then they aren't going to be idly googling popular holiday destinations, and even if they were, I don't think booking a one way flight to (say) New Zealand is going to be technically possible.

When Kabul was being evacuated, I very much doubt they all got given a list of options to choose from and free vouchers for the lounges at the airport.

Sparklingbrook · 27/02/2022 10:09

I was going to have a look but assumed it would be full of 'there's no point we'd all be dust' posts.

Juno22 · 27/02/2022 10:10

Parpophone I've just looked at that 'fleeing' thread. I don't know whether to laugh at the idea that the airports will be running normally and you can just fly off to anywhere else in the world or whether to be angry at the frivolity about such a serious situation where people are terrified for their lives. Eg 'where will they nuke first'.

I don't believe in censorship but I do think Mumsnet should be moderating the threads in a better way. I think I might need to step away for a bit.

Parpophone · 27/02/2022 10:25

@Juno22 yes, me too!

I am waiting for them to start wondering if they can use their air miles and whether the duty free will still be open.

Not sure what has happened to all the "oh I coud never bring myself to get on a plane -think of the environment" brigade. Probably working out how many rolls of "who gives a crap" loo roll and re-usable nappies they can fit in their luggage.

lljkk · 27/02/2022 10:43

Every time I look at tv, turn on radio or social media, these places are full of comments on Ukraine. I would like MN to be a space where I have a way to dial down the Ukraine content -- that's why I want a dedicated topic.

Tangent:
<span class="italic">Telling women, who disagree with you, is widely known to misogynistic.</span>

I think that wins for dumbest things I've read (ever) on MN.  Does that mean every single time I disagree with a man that I'm being Misandrist?

Mind boggles.

ClaudineClare · 27/02/2022 10:55

I don't believe in censorship but I do think Mumsnet should be moderating the threads in a better way. I think I might need to step away for a bit

Agree.

Sparklingbrook · 27/02/2022 11:04

There's a nice alarmist one about flying this morning.

merrymouse · 27/02/2022 11:06

I don’t think moving threads to a dedicated topic area is censorship in this case, because it should make threads easier to find.

It’s not as though this is a niche issue only being discussed on MN, or as though the active threads in AIBU are reliable sources of information.

Associatepeggy · 27/02/2022 11:07

@lljkk really? The dumbest? Dumber than you not being able to follow a converataion about 8 posts long?

I was referring to the 'calm down' that's told to women, when they disagree with anyone (men or women). It is misogynistic.

But you couldn't be arsed to follow it. Just took something out of context. Well done you! Have a medal.

cakeorwine · 27/02/2022 11:13

There is 1 thread in Active out of the top 20 this morning.

Hardly dominating....

merrymouse · 27/02/2022 11:19

I agree that if it all dies down to one or two long running threads, there is no need for a separate topic.