Qui tacet consentire videture... I want it to be understood by MNHQ and by guests to this site that my silence on the subject of the recent speculative threads does NOT condone their existence.

[Aitch]

Aitch.

oh god, are we still on this? it's every fortnight at this rate... 'just ignore the posts' 'just don't make them in the first place' 'i see this on tv, in newspapers, i can't avoid it' 'but i want to avoid it on mn, don't you see?'
it's endless.

just register a protest, if you want to, and offski. there is Literally No Point in trying to get into this with people like Haychee, they Will Not Give Up. that's why so many MNers have been ignoring the McCann posts in the first place. that was the original reason for the OP, in fact.

off to bed now, night all

sleep well, mb.

night, MB. Am off too to do the ironing I should have done an hour ago.

On an open internet discussion forum, you can't realistically expect to avoid any mention of things that upset you. I note the convention of referring to certain phobic-triggers by different names, but any newcomer to the site who doesn't know this convention has no reason to find out about it or obey it (and there are so many different phobias in existence that trying to avoid any mention of any phobic trigger would pretty much mean you couldn't have any kind of conversation at all).

For nearly 20 years of my life I have been involved in anti-censorship organisations so (and this is my opinion, nothing whatsoever to do with any stance MNHQ might take) I don't actually hold with deleting 'offensive' posts. And that includes racist ones and pro-paedophile ones. Leave them up there and debate them. Shutting people up doesn't make them or their opinions go away or stop existing. Though I fully understand that MNHQ would want to delete anything that was likely to result in a court action and support their right to do so - when I'm the one in charge of a website and it's my arse/income/liberty on the line then I can indulge my anti-censorship principles to the full.

If you don't likie the subject or tone of certain discussions, don't enter into them. But you don't get to stop other people discussing whatever they want to discuss. THe whole tone of this thread is really of longstanding Mners whining that the site is not their little private gang any more. Tough. It isn't. Live with it.

I am always late

Daisymoo

Its discovering others views opinions and thoughts on an issue close to all our hearts. I wanted to explore it further because my dh is against them and i am for them.
It doesnt do anybody any good i agree, but is worthy of discussing given light of the recent developments. It is all about a mum accused of harming her own child, on a parents website it seems perfectly reasonable to be discussed here.
I do agree the detialing to such a degree was disgusting, but then there alot of news events that are disgusting, but we cant control that. Unfortunately none of us know what has exactly happened, hopefully time will tell us all. But my view is, that nothing is impossible, anything may of happened. It may turn out they are guilty, what do any of us know for sure - nothing!

I want to apologise again as i always do, i was involved in the thread yesterday and allowed the hideous descriptions to pass me by. I was furious over the "poopants" incident and the bumping that ensued. I had had a drink (small but very effective as im useless at drinking) and i said somethings that im now ashamed of. It appears MB that you are infact a well grounded person who has alot of respect on here. Therefore, i am a little astounded that you havnt been aboe to hear me correctly all day & night.

I think you are doing the right thing, you wanted it known, that you all disapproved at the highest level and were told you could not sabotage threads the way that one was. This thread has done what you wanted it to. You have disassociated yourselves form the mm threads as you do not want to be percieved as having them same hideous views.

I however, strongly believe there is no good that can come from burying your head in the sand. Life is full of grim twists and turns, none of us like it but thats the way it is.

Darn, i wrote all that and MB has gone to bed. Gutted.

Well said

nell12

madamez - isn't this thread exactly what you support. Freedom of speech for many posters (like myself - ) to say that just because there are threads on the McCanns being publically quoted does not mean that there are not those amongst us who dislike them and find them distasteful and what to be stand up and be counted [proud emoticon].

I have not tried to get anything deleted, I did not try to bump the thread out of existance. I did briefly try to separate fact from fiction but it obviously wasn't that pertinent to the thread .

As others have said - you're not required to approve of this thread. Its just a way for some people to have their voice heard.
As someone very wise once said "If you don't likie the subject or tone of certain discussions, don't enter into them. But you don't get to stop other people discussing whatever they want to discuss"

This is a tangent, really, but the loofah thing has come up quite a bit lately, (twice on this thread alone) and I see some people have misunderstood it

The loofah / spider thing is at least partially a joke

I don't like spiders, I don't like them at all, but I am not phobic about them. I can go on MN whether or not there are posts and titles about spiders. At certain times of year (ie now) there often are LOADS of these threads and it is true it makes me twitchy and nervous. It's not a huge deal. But people using the word loofah instead makes me smile and I know that they remember that I'm not fond of spiders. It's just a little kindness to me when people do it.

There are indeed posters who have difficulty coming on MN if certain words or phrases are used in thread titles. But I don't know of anyone on MN who is phobic enough about spiders that it bothers them to this extent.

there were far too many "not's" in that first sentence.

PS have pretty solid working class coal miner roots so you should respect my opinion!

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Yes, yes and thrice yes.

Though I did post this yesterday (despite swearing I wouldn't read or post on those threads)...

'I really would like a "Without Madeleine McCann threads" option. And that doesn't mean I don't care - I do. But these threads have made me more angry than anything else I've ever read on MN. Sick, idle, prurient speculation. Whoever said it was like the women knitting at the guillotine was right.'

Been away since Friday, so late here . . .
signing to the OP -
fromgirders

oh marthamoo - wouldn't that be lovely a "without MMC" option, because if I (occasionally crack and post on one, it sits on my active convo's jeering at me for days before the damn thing does the decent thing and drops off the perch.

Oooh, thanks for that, littlelapin.

Signed,
NorksDrift

Signing up, managed to avoid reading those threads.

stepfordwife
thankyou op
(although made a brief foray against the feral speculation)

Oh God - they've started another one. Claiming it's news therefore worthy of discussion.

Yes but where is the thread about feeding dead bodies to pigs? SOunds hilarious.

and double

Your no peacemaker thats for sure