Really had enough - its no longer hitting the spot

[CAM]

Got to go, can't come on here to be abused.

All the "old girls" hardly post anymore, bk, tm, m, mi, d, sm, etc etc, its mostly a bunch of tedious up their own bullies.

Mamazon, there is probably a moral to this story.

Some of you have been on here for years, you are a bunch of vicious cows.

Some of you are fairly new, but are still vicious cows

And yet, there are new people on here who are vicious.

Women are bitchy, thats it.

lol i think the moral is to just letthem fight it out and not bother next time....you just have to realise sooner or later that a brick wall to the head starts to hurt after a while.

I blame the PMT

I think this has got so bad because it's got tangled up with some common no-win arguments on MN, eg:

Poster A: you are bullying me
Poster B: No I'm not!
Poster A: Well, I feel bullied

......nobody can ever win or resolve that one.

or,
Poster C: I agree with hunker
Poster D: You're only saying that because you're a crony of hunker's

.... you can just go round and round and round endlessly with that one.

or how about:
Poster F: [posts very politely]
Poster G: You're patronising me
Poster F: No, I'm just being polite, that's how I am
Poster F: [swears until air turns blue]
Poster G: You're bullying me

etc etc etc

I'm very very keen to discuss different ideas about weaning age, because it's an interesting discussion and it's hard to know what's right, and it affects all parents sooner or later.

But this sort of thing is like duelling with smoke and about as useful ultimately.

Zookeper, I'm not patronising you and I'm not bullying you and I'm not even trying to give you advice, but there's a weaning research thread in the weaning topic and if you want to talk about the research, I'm sure you'll find people there who are happy to do that - me included.

shame on you all.

what an extraordinary contribution UCM. how long have you been here, and how much of a vicious cow are you? i've always found you perfectly pleasant, am i wrong? it just Does Not follow that everyone who has become embroiled in this is a vicious cow... i'm pretty hurt that you would say such a thing tbh.

a thread got deleted, probably because it was peppered with personal attacks from CAM to everyone who got in her firing line and a number of suitable pithy remarks back. it was than reinstated briefly so that a few names could be cleared (mine included, i just cannot believe the shit i've had to put up with from ZK today, none of her accusations are true in the remotest part) and unfortunately has now gone again.

i think MNHQ shoudl have left it where it was as it showed that CAM, bless her, was being pretty erratic. hence the fact that myself and a number of others were asking her if she was feeling okay.

but i really had to respond to your 'women are bitchy' comment... it's the sort of thing that has held women back for centuries. plenty of women/bitches here sought to apologise, sort things out, calm things down etc and there was really only one person who would not let it lie.

some people cannot see a controversial issue be discussed on MN without taking it as a personal attack on their parenting (not ZK in this case i think). some people cannot see any sort of group consensus without crying 'clique', which is tiresome and imo rather immature. who knows, maybe they have had experiences that render them particulalry sensitive to 'bullying'? coudl be that's it. but to dismiss an entire gender, one to which you belong, as 'bitchy' is insulting and very worrying.

whatever way i put this it draws a line in the sand. it says "custy - supports this person"

which is all that will be read.

but use of terms - like CAM = personal attacks
responses to CAM = ... a bit kinda pithy

is unfair.

oh and BTW i noticed the spelling thing 'psml' & 'PMSL' and thought it petty.

i dont know what CAM said that upset people so, i do know that comments like something like ' your not as popular' QV unnesessary.

i also know that HUNKER knows full well as we have met before on bf v's FF threads - that it is deliberatley inflamitory to infer that a parent who doesn't do things your way is an inferiour parent.

you might think that.

you might start a thread " heres some evidence for those people who have considered early weaning!" theres a million other ways of doing it. but just like Xenia is a PITA re: women working
as custy is a PITA re over use of swear words unecessarily - bad spelling & constand viva la prolateriat posts
as greensleaves is to macdonalds
as Monkey trousers is to porn
hunker is to this.

its just the way its phrased.

we all know this, we do. Ive never fell out with hunker, QV, colditz ( i love you i do and dont reallly know what you have do do with owt), aitch

i have to say - whatever CAM said, Aitch & QV in particular should not defend their unpleasent comments by proclaiming " please miss she said worse"

its just a bit rubbish. but...

" i disagree with cam, i dont think she should have called me that name...... however my part in saying [insert whatever comments] was un savoury and for that i apologise."

why not?

becuase " she pinched me first miss?"

c'mon!

your all so much better than that!

ahhhh..custy...the foreigner in the way out timezone can always look to you for a decent summary and down to earth answer for "what is going on in this thread"

And you get my earlier post, it is like listening in to a 3rd former's convo. This should all have been done via msn, IMO

What - do you not think all women are vicious then Aitch?

Twas a generalisation, I thought it was quite apt tonight actually. It was not particlarly meant at yourself, but in general. God I am pissed, thank fuck DH is doing his thing tonight and seeing to the baby.

And I have been on here for over 4 years, obviously have namechanged at certain moments, Lav anyone (Gawd only joking).

And another thing, how long I have been on here is no reason for anyone to 'front up to me'. I could have been on here for 2 minutes and posted the same thing.

Now, I like you and have no argument with you, but I feel that posters have been nasty to each other.

I am just trying to make sense of it after that Jacob Geek bloke kept feeling my glass.

good god Aitch, UCM observes that women are "very bitchy" and you find it "very worrying?"

How do you get out of bed in the morning with the weight of it all?

Oh and do please do try to stop bitching ,err being pithy, about me now.

I'm fairly new and i resent being called a vicious cow.
When people read stuff it can be read the wrong way.
I don't post on serious threads because as we are still TTC i feel i don't have anything worth contributing just yet.
Even then i prob won't post.
I will stay on the fun threads and just read the serious ones.
Well, must run, Gotta go to work now.
Cheerio.
(will be back later)

God, this thread is pathetic. Fucking embarrassing, frankly.

Get a grip, all of you.

I can't believe this is still going on.

As snaf says - get a grip. FFS.

Can't believe I actually read that whole thread.

FWIW Colditz comes across as somewhat abrasive in rl, it's just on here you can't see that she is usually smiling when she says things, or pulling a face to show she's not taking the piss. She doesn't sugar coat which is why I value her opinion and friendship, you know you will get a truthful answer as far as her experience and knowledge (which is considerable) allow her to judge.

Saying that, I now wish I hadn't wasted over half an hour reading this pointless thread!!!!!!!!!

oh god this thread is awful but I do agree with cam and zk. It is really annoying when your opinion/experience is something that mustnt be said on Mumsnet, or you get a lot of emotive language and ridicule.

Message withdrawn

" dont know what CAM said that upset people so, i do know that comments like something like ' your not as popular' QV unnesessary.
" you've lost me on that one custy. Can you put it into context my lovely?

no.
it wouldnt capture the essence of which i am speaking. it would reduce my comments to one single point to argue/debate/discuss...

when thats not my point at all.

peace.

Gawd I have just read what I typed last night. I never spelt vicious wrong at least. I was totally trying to lighten the atmospere really, but as when most people are pissed they think they are really really funny

Maybe we could have an emoticon for 'I'm drinking - read with caution!'

lol a [sozzled] emoticon