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A different view to "I am Spartacus"

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aleanasjourney · 01/09/2016 02:01

Hello everyone,

I have had the time to read a lot of your comments about Transgender people not being biologically the gender they wish to be. It is a very sad day when parents are not able to share the hopes and dreams of other parents. It is a sad day when other parents cannot understand the pain and anguish of other parents when their child is in so much pain that they want to die.
Now I know what you are about to say, if they get help then they would not have a problem and they would be fixed. In the DSM 3,4, and 5 Gender Dysphoria is a real problem. It is not something made up to lead people to the Devil or anything else that crazy. By the way if you go to a Physiologist or a social worker they use the DSM as a guide book for issues of the mind. Though this year it is being discussed to remove the issues of Gender Dysphoria. Now if you try to discount the issues of Gender Dysphoria then the little happy pills some of you are taking must stop as well.
Let me try to give you a little light... I respect your views as it is your right to have them. But giving you the right to have your views then you must accept the right given to others to have the view that they are not what their body says they are.
When it comes to children who are feeling the way that they are, would you not do ANYTHING to keep your child alive? Hormone blockers do not cause boobs to grow. They do exactly what they say they are going to do. It puts off Puberty, it does not stop it. They are used to see if the child is going through a phase. Now to the issues of physical sex (penis and vagina) those of you saying that they are the only two genders need to understand that you have been proven incorrect by 99% of the medical community. There is a physical sex called Intersexed for those of you who don't know that is what used to be called a Hermaphrodite. Now this does not mean that they were born with born sets of equipment. What it means is simply that some of the traits of both sexes are included. Meaning that you could have a child born with a penis and a set of ovaries. Now saying it is a "normal" condition, in the past surgery was chosen for children born with this condition. The suicide rate was very high for this group cause a lot of the time the doctors got it wrong. So if you look at a seesaw penis on one side and vagina on the other intersexed sits in the middle. Their is a sliding scale in the three, this is being proven with the markers now are wider than the simple XX and XY. Though the majority are XX and XY. It is possible that some of the mental traits are linked in a different fashion than what was thought. If you accept that being Gay or Lesbian is not a mental illness then you have to look at the Transgender issue as not an illness as well but as a mental trait similar to being Gay or Lesbian.
Furthermore we must also look at what the Transcommunity are saying compared to what is being said by the media and the politicians. The Transcommunity does not say they are the other gender, they are saying that is how they feel they are. This is something that is hard to understand and digest. So let me try to help your thoughts. In the morning you wake up you don't see your body. You feel your environment around you. Go to the bathroom, eat breakfast, brush your teeth and then you are at the point where you have to get dressed you look at your clothes and you feel like wearing Red. Okay now lets look at a Transperson they wake up they feel their environment around them. Go to the bathroom, but don't look in the mirror, they eat breakfast, they brush their teeth, they try to avoid the mirror. They get dressed they go about their day hoping to make it one more day. Then it happens, it snaps they can't keep doing this. This is not life, this is existence nothing more. Something has to be done, not that they want it done. They would love to be the "Norm" but they can't it is more than a feeling of RED. It is something wrong deep in their soul. They do not feel connected to the skin they are in. So what do they do, some give up, some crawl into a hole, some end it all, some fight it until it kills them, some say I have to Transition. They worry about the cost of the choice but what is the other choices if they don't. They want to live just like the "Norm". So they feel closer to the XX or the XY. So they try to live like that to make it. Now to debunk some of the crazy ideas that the media and politicians pounding into your head that is incorrect.
*Men can Breast feed, the glands are there and all they have to do is be activated.
*Transpeople do not cause problems in the bathrooms. Here is why Hormone blockers for Transwomen shut off Testosterone . That is male hormone that cause the erections, sex drive and some thought patterns associated with some forms of perversions . IF that Hormone is not working then those are no longer issues. Because news flash without the hormone erections well 90% are gone. Sex Drive is changed to an emotional connection vs physical connection.
*When it comes to parenting most Transwomen become more in tune with their children.
*No they don't perverse their children in to any form of gender role in fact they hope that their children do not have the same issues.
*When it comes to pronouns what is wrong with a little respect? They are not punishing you for being the "Norm". Call you out for dressing like a slob, bogan, white trash, or any thing else. In fact Transpeople for the most part are more inclusive of your feelings cause what they go through.

You might wonder where my in site comes from. I live it.... My story would shock and scare some of you, if I was your child. I would welcome you to read it aleanasjourney.com/about/ . In fact if you questions ask me, don't assume cause I assure you the truth will help you understand me. I wish you the best day no matter who you are or who you want to be.
~Ally

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MisDescamisados · 01/09/2016 11:10

Aleanasjourney , I'm not an Internet anything . I AM , and trained at immense expense of the wonderful British state , a DMT, LMA, WEMT, and ECP and BTLSTech .
The latter meaning I can shoot , accurately , BIG holes (as I believe I did) , and stand a bloody good chance of fixing said - but only in bodies not arguments .
I'm also trained , and trusted , to be put to sea in charge of the medical care of several hundred souls , without the aid or supervision of an MD , or indeed , you.
Fixing holes in arguments lies with the person stating the original argument and snotty comebacks make poor dressings . Grow up .

aleanasjourney · 01/09/2016 11:11

FreshwaterSelkie

Well consider this.....
I have seven kids each one of them are successful. Let me explain:
23 y/o Daughter currently at Monash University Studying Journalism
21 y/o Daughter R. Nurse with a my grandbaby grad University of Utah
19 y/o Son Studying to be a private security contractor for the US government
17 y/o Daughter who has been invited to go to MIT
10 y/o Son Yellow belt Jujitsu, math know it all
8 y/o Daughter Yellow belt Jujitsu and a Survivor of a Sexual assault
6 y/o Son Yellow belt Jujitsu

So my version never included booze or drugs and my results are some amazing kids. From a wonderful set of Parents who valued Education and life. Before you judge me, my results speak clearly.

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Kropotkinator · 01/09/2016 11:11

Good, FFS then you can see how many babies have been born due to two drunken idiots.

And here's the misogynist victim blaming (surprised?). A male rapes a female and suddenly it's just "two drunk people, shit happens".

Good work.

FRET
Apologies. I didn't know Brew

FrancisCrawford · 01/09/2016 11:14

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aleanasjourney · 01/09/2016 11:16

MisDescamisados

That was expected! The only think you have not provided is a Thailand printed Grad cert.

At no point have I every said who I am or what I have done as a boasting point so therefore pound your chest all you want it does not match your writings.

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venusinscorpio · 01/09/2016 11:18

I think aleana is doing a bang up job of reinforcing how justified women were for starting the Spartacus thread. Bring it on!

MaudGonneMad · 01/09/2016 11:20

At no point have I every said who I am or what I have done as a boasting point

So what was the boring detail about the seven kids about so? Confused

aleanasjourney · 01/09/2016 11:20

FrancisCrawford
Way to go with dismissing a criminal act

Do you have the evidence?
Do you have the complaint?
Do you know the laws where they live?

No, we don't we have the internet. Let the proper Authorities make the judgement based on the evidence and the punishment fit the crime. That is equal rights, that is justice and it has nothing to do with the topic.

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SodTheSpecialSnowflakes · 01/09/2016 11:20

At no point have I every said who I am or what I have done as a boasting point so therefore pound your chest all you want it does not match your writings.

UM, the poster was replying to a veiled insult thrown by you!

aleanasjourney · 01/09/2016 11:21

MaudGonneMad

Thanks, LOL someone asked

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aleanasjourney · 01/09/2016 11:22

MaudGonneMad

Thanks, LOL someone asked

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MaudGonneMad · 01/09/2016 11:23

No, they didn't.

FreshwaterSelkie · 01/09/2016 11:24

I think all the 7 children thing proves is that you're not intersex if you've fathered seven children. Not sure how it connects to forced impregnation, unless that's your point.

What's your take on feminism, Aleana? Women standing together or evil nazi types?

BertrandRussell · 01/09/2016 11:25

Aleanana- when you say "equal rights" what do you mean?

Do you think, for example, that transwomen should be able to access all places and services on completely equal terms with "cis" women on the strength of self declaration alone?

Do you think that I have the right to refuse the "cis" label?

Do you think it is transphobic if a lesbian refuses to contemplate sex with a trans woman?

FrancisCrawford · 01/09/2016 11:29

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Spartacus · 01/09/2016 11:32

Thank you, OP, for starting this thread.

It is a great reminder, should one be needed, of why the Spartacus thread exists.

DrudgeJedd · 01/09/2016 11:34

This thread makes uncomfortable reading, the OP has so seriously misjudged their audience, the tone and content of of their posts (little happy pills, rape=drunken sex etc), that to continue to engage with them seems pointless at best.

DrudgeJedd · 01/09/2016 11:39

Sorry pressed send too soon..

and to continue to point out the massive flaws in the OP's posts about sex, gender, rape & equality will be latched on as evidence of vile bullying, transphobia etc.

MorrisZapp · 01/09/2016 11:39

This thread should be treated as the joke that it is.

FrancisCrawford · 01/09/2016 11:39

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ElsaAintAsColdAsMe · 01/09/2016 11:40

This sort of thing pisses me right off.

Someone in my family is currently having some gender issues. It's been going on for a few years now and I am being as supportive as humanly possible.

There have been some major issues within the family because of it but generally we have been quietly going about our lives, not invading anyone's space, finding our own solutions to situations that arise. Now all of a sudden there's this huge influx of people speaking out and giving the rest of the trans community a bad name. Coming out with stupid and downright offensive opinions as though they are fact.

I wish they would all bugger off so all of us who just want to get on and deal with things quietly and not live our life through blogs and twitter and have 15 minutes of fame can go about our lives as before.

You might think you're helping 'the cause' op but you really aren't.

Fwiw I've been on various trans threads with my opinion, including the spartacus one, and had a respectful and civilised debate, maybe you should try that op rather than start a thread patronising everyone.

AnyTheWiser · 01/09/2016 11:43

I haven't clicked on your link, as I don't click random links, but were you the male parent of those seven children, or the female parent? I have assumed from your posts that you have transitioned from m to f. It does not matter to me, either way.
But I am astonished that you could have reproduced seven times before realising you were living in the wrong body.
Did you not realise before then?

FreshwaterSelkie · 01/09/2016 11:47

It must be massively frustrating Elsa.

But I do think it's useful that people see firsthand the issues. People like Aleana want women to stand together with them, but it's very clear that favour won't be returned when it comes to women's rights issues like rape.

DropYourSword · 01/09/2016 11:48

the little happy pills some of you are taking must stop as well

Can I just make a comment about this point. Anti-depressants aren't 'happy pills'. They make life bearable for people with depression. Anti depressants have never made me 'happy'. They've just stopped making me feel so damn sad.

EttaJ · 01/09/2016 11:49

Some excellent posts here, none by the OP.