dear mn hq why are so many disablist threads being left up

[Samcro]

one today for instance and mn hq post
"We don't think that this thread is disablist, it is a valid discussion that we don't think should be shut down. "

yet it has obviously been reported.
cause hurt and upset
how is that making life easier(or better) for the sn community`?

or this message from mn hq
That CBeebies is just far too PC
Thread deleted
Message from MNHQ: Thanks so much for all the reports about this.

Although there has been some interesting debate and discussion, we do agree that the OP and some of what ensues is disablist, so we have decided to delete.

how can these be interesting debates??
\not long ago mn hq said that they were going to be quicker dealing with this stuff
what happened??

I genuinely don't get why mnhq isn't grasping this one. There are multiple threads that demonstrate these issues over and over...the wheelchair/pram bus threads to infinitum surely demonstrate why a few sharp interventions from mnhq are needed rather than poor fanjo etc being the educators and getting labelled themselves as being too sensitive, easily offended, sn brigade etc

That is interesting go. You mean sort of how like children will joke, then justify by way of joking?

Some things (unfortunately) never change!

Ego, do you happen to know how this research relates to children?

I'm clumsy with my wording, but I swear this whole 'take a joke' thing starts with children. My DS1 is disabled and I find some of the kids joke because they're a bit nervous of DS1, which is easily remedied, but others seem to joke to justify their dislike of him.

Was just wondering if it was mentioned in the study?

Still people are telling me what to think. Stop it, it's rude.

My friends take the piss out of me and I don't mind. I enjoy it. If it upset me I'd tell them and they'd stop. A lot of people use humour to get through life. Humourless gits don't get to tell us we can't. I accept your right to be offended. You have to accept my right not to be.

Some people with hearing difficulties found it funny. Not for anyone to tell them they can't.

Never heard of it, thank you soooo much for the links! I just want people to accept my little boy, and see all the wonderful traits he has. He has some NT friends who really don't care, but sadly I find some children (or I should say, their parents) are put off because you can 'tell' he's disabled by his facial disfigurements.

Just to add a light story here I think might make a few posters smile. My DS1's school is wonderful, as are his little friends. A new boy started, and he said something innocuous the other children know not to say as it pushes DS1's buttons. His two wee friends held his arms and shouted RUN at the poor confused newcomer. Later, they explained to the teacher that 'everyone knows when [DS1] gets angry you just gotta run. Why didn't he run?!

I found it all very cute

But I think that story just shows children are accepting until hateful adults interfere. No one told these boys any of this - They deduced it all on their own, from holding him back to running. Because DS1 is just another friend to them. I'm not 100% sure what point that represents, but it's definitely A point.

Again, friends and third parties/randoms are not the same.

FrancisCrawford the trouble is with the new reporting system, there is no way of knowing if mn hq have even read the report, and now you don't get any contact to say that the post has been deleted or not.

Yes Ego, and she's very opinionated about ASD being about parenting, despite having an autistic daughter herself

We moved ds from his first primary because of attitudes from teachers and certain children. Because they were the "right" sort of children - bright, sporty, involved parents - their bullying was never dealt with. Any attempted reports (and there were loads!) were shut down immediately.
The majority of parents whose DC were victims of these DC were so exhausted from dealing with the fallout at home that they didn't have the energy to fight school on this issue, particularly when the HT refused to engage.
It was very weird.

And actually, my experience at secondary was exactly the same. Vicious bullying, but not dealt with as it was the nice middle class children with amazing futures ahead of them who led the bullying, so they couldn't possibly be bullies.

Ego, I think we were at the same school, is this how you found it?

Still people are telling me what to think. Stop it, it's rude.

I'm assuming that's aimed at me. I didn't tell you what to think, I told you that you are wrong. And I won't stop. According to your rationale, if I'm not offended by something nor my nearest and dearest, then it's ok and anyone else just deals it. So deal with it.

SilverChairs posts just show you can be disabled and also be disablist about other disabilities.

Your opinion. Just an opinion that I choose not to accept as valid.

But your posts show you to be judgemental and unable to accept a different point of view other than your own. I, at least, accept there are other views.

I know many people whose DC are at the school, and it has become more of a middle class bubble, very low rates of SEN.
I know of a couple of DC with ASD who went there, who are now at university, but they were very high achieving and needed very little support.
If a child needs support, they usually don't start there or they don't stay long.

I managed to be ill every time it was my turn to do a reading, or my twin took my place!
I was a quiet one, didn't get into any trouble, but I wasn't a high flyer so was effectively ignored. If I bump into any old teachers they remember my sisters but not me.
My GP was also at the school, and she helped my to get my ASD diagnosis, because she knew how different I was to the rest of my family.

Wow, I never thought I'd see the day when KH changed her mind about something!