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Hey MNHQ. Would it be possible to have a discussion about how SN issues/threads are handled on the main boards.

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Pagwatch · 12/06/2016 11:38

I know you are fire fighting a bit and I'm not trying to stir things up.

I just think that there are endless threads that require you to get involved and try to (for the sake of a better word) mediate between pissed of posters with no real experience of SN/disability and pissed off member of the SN/disability community.

I think you try really really hard to be fair and even handed. It's an understandable response but I have growing doubts about it.
There have been half a dozen threads recently where posters I recognise as living with SN/disability issues deal with a continuous stream of posts from any random who pops up on a thread making the same stupid, ill informed or frankly goady post.
It's like swimming through a tidal wave of shit.
Then, as posters get increasingly exasperated by each arriving poster saying 'well I'm not putting my buggy away if my baby is asleep' or 'why can't I use the disabled toilet if it's empty' or 'but people with SN can be violent. I know of stabbing someone and attacks all the time' they get rude and the thread descends into eurrgh.

I'm still reading constant posts where anyone affected by disability is berated if they are angry, the message being 'be nice, be grateful or we don't have to be fair'

It seems to me that the status quo of 'fairness' is simply unfair.
Posters already dealing with immense difficulty shouldn't be forced to defend themselves against every person who turns up and says unpleasant things under the umbrella of debate. You said a long time ago it was not our responsibility to educate but the reality is that, with no palpable support from you guys, we are endlessly having to educate.

I am not pretending to have the answer but is it possible to contemplate methods by which you could actually say to posters saying 'if someone in a wheelchair can't use their space because I'm not putting my buggy away' that their comments are wrong and not in the spirit of the site?

You link to the This Is My Child campaign but the posters who are the problem won't care and won't read it.

I don't know - I just wonder if you could think about this.
Sometimes there are not two sides to a debate because only one side is directly affected, exhausted, distressed and having their lives and their children's lives made harder.

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fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 15/06/2016 18:07

Yes me too

BishopBrennansArse · 15/06/2016 18:09

If she's pro, who needs anti?

Samcro · 15/06/2016 19:13

can we be careful please. the other thread has been deleted and if we kkep talking about posters this will go too

BeyondTellsEveryoneRealFacts · 15/06/2016 19:57

Latest wheelchair vs buggy thread in chat is rather civilised! Waiting for the arseholes to turn up...

BishopBrennansArse · 16/06/2016 11:31

Just had to post this

It's the same all the time isn't it?
Parents can't ever be inconvenienced can they?
Knowingly taking contagious kids into the community, refusing to fold on buses, insisting on taking prams into disabled loos...

I'm alright jack and sod vulnerable people.

Before being a disabled parent of disabled children I was an able bodied parent of 3 kids under 5.

Yes it was hard but nowhere near as hard as now with both me and DD in wheelchairs and both boys needing constant supervision.

I NEVER would have misused facilities for disabled people or inflicted contagious potentially serious diseases on people just because I had a young family.

You know what, MNHQ? I'm not letting this go.

BeyondTellsEveryoneRealFacts · 16/06/2016 11:34

You just saw the poxy child thread then brennan?

Jasonandyawegunorts · 16/06/2016 11:38

I'm happy to bump this.

BishopBrennansArse · 16/06/2016 11:40

Yep.
Having RA these people could put me in hospital!

lovemysunnydays · 16/06/2016 11:43

Saw this on a different thread. That other user does indeed seem to be pro-SN, actually. She's hasnt said anything bad about wheelchair users. She's actually only posted support about it. Just seems she got upset with that bad post when she made a (misguided) attempt at trying to reassure people in a different thread that when they think people are staring it's because they think they're thinking bad things but that might not always be the case, but looks like she got utterly shot down for suggesting it and got upset by it. Her other posts are in support of wheelchair users.

Samcro · 16/06/2016 11:52

oh dear talk about a derail
i do hope this thread continues to make mn hq aware of the issues.
sadly even the bus thread has become not so nice.
lets hope this one doesn't become all about he said she said

Pagwatch · 16/06/2016 12:37

MNHQ have said they will talk about it this week so I would be expecting some kind of a reaction /response at the weekend or early next week.

I don't think continuing activity should affect that.
They have said they will consider and respond and I don't think that they will just hope we will forget about it.

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BeyondTellsEveryoneRealFacts · 16/06/2016 12:41

I cant join in on "he said she said" as i have no idea who people are talking about Grin

So i'll just keep bumping with my own innane ramblings!

MrsDeVere · 16/06/2016 15:03

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PirateJones · 16/06/2016 15:08

yes, It's the same old Mumsnet.

FlouncyMcFlounceFace · 16/06/2016 16:12

1 faster action on reports full stop! Seriously are there not enough staff?!

2 clear deletion messages stating WHY deleted

3 persistent offenders banned - no more just paying lip service to '3 strikes and out' do it!

4 instead of 'peace and love' keep it simple for the clearly hard of thinking offenders - 'Disablist posts will NOT be tolerated, if you post disablist posts you WILL be deleted and risk a ban' . Then they've been warned - no excuses!

5 On buses wheelchair vs pushchair thread (they come up so often) please could we have a standard MNHQ message to put weight behind support of the needs of the disabled person and to clarify reasonable adjustment is law.

6 On pox/ infectious child type threads (another one that appears regularly) please could we have a standard MNHQ message to put weight behind supporting the needs of those who are immune repressed or for whom exposure could cause significant harm.

Samcro · 16/06/2016 16:48

we now have some poster sharing a vile fb thing.
some jealous or someone else who might get a dx
and oh yes the WC on bus thread...

think I will hide

Jasonandyawegunorts · 16/06/2016 16:57

Is it getting worse?

Samcro · 16/06/2016 16:58

well i have reported the fb one, i can't see how they can leave that up

Newes · 16/06/2016 17:03

Me neither, it's awful. could be interpreted as a chance to share it further too, which I am sure the OP didn't intend.

Samcro · 16/06/2016 17:05

i am so jaded with the disablist stuff I see as awful attention seeking.
yep share on mn, but do nothing on fb.
still it will be good if mn hq delete

Baconyum · 16/06/2016 17:06

What's the fb one?

Jasonandyawegunorts · 16/06/2016 17:06

Yes, the poster who has only been around 2 months, inadvertently posting something she find offensive, but explaining it's okay as she has SN children.
Seen that before too.

DixieNormas · 16/06/2016 17:07

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Samcro · 16/06/2016 17:07

when someone posted the s word on fb. I called them on it they apologised big time, its not hard

Samcro · 16/06/2016 17:08

please please report it the more people who do the better.
we should not have to see tuff like that

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