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Hackergate part four - PLEASE READ!

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RebeccaMumsnet · 20/08/2015 10:12

Previous thread here and original thread here

We will post here throughout the day with updates and info, please do post any questions and we will get to them as soon as possible.

If you need to get in touch off of the boards, please email [email protected], we have a team of people working through the inbox now and will get back to you ASAP but please do bear with us, it's very busy.

There is also a specific thread about passwords here.

Thanks all
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Arkkorox · 21/08/2015 09:47

Also what They've done is essentially caused a mass paranoia, the fact that people are then posting on the hacking threads with passwords not working, random emails not requested etc is causing people to lose faith in MNHQ, which is exactly what they want. If that carries on then the forum will eat itself because people will be so worried they will leave and not post. They've pretty much lit the end of the fuse and are sitting back watching ourselves make each other paranoid and every now and then stiring it a bit with Twitter posts etc

wannaBe · 21/08/2015 09:49

tbh I don't think it has anything to do with the fact that these people think that mn are Anti men either but that they're doing it because they can and nothing more, but Anti man makes for a good headline/agenda iyswim.

However I do think it slightly disingenuous to suggest that the same applies on here to both men and women, because while there is definitely a lot to be said against women who try to withhold access with ill intent or out of revenge etc I don't think it can be argued that in many cases there are definite double standards in terms of how posts from men and women are answered on mn. e.g.:

woman posts that her dh won't have sex with her: replies are along the lines of she should reconsider the relationship, would she want to stay in a sexless marriage for the rest of her life etc, quite valid points IMO. But if a man posts the same the initial question is how much does he do to help around the house. Hmm

The thread the other day with the man who doesn't want any more children because he has a severely disabled child from a previous relationship as well as his two year old is a case in point. There were two posters in particular who were particularly vitriolic and who were rightly called on their posts, but also a number of others suggesting that the man should perhaps come up with solutions to enable the woman to be able to have the baby she wants. If the situation had been reversed there is no way that anyone would have said anything other than that it was her body, her choice, end of discussion.

I don't think that mn is anti man, but I do think that because it is predominantly women posting here there is more of a leaning towards the opinions of women being the right ones vs those of men.

Arkkorox · 21/08/2015 09:52

Exactly the same thing would happen the other way on a male dominated forum too wanna

Spot on post.

MNHQ
RebeccaMumsnet · 21/08/2015 09:53

Hi all,

Popping in to say good morning, we are here and will be reading through the last few posts shortly and responding to them.

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orangefusion · 21/08/2015 10:01

Has this hack meant that our email addresses were released? I have been getting emails that seem to be from me, to me. "Find F*ck Friends" and Sex messages asking if I have a big cock. Really nasty lewd messages. Are these connected with the hack, they started yesterday, I have never had them before (but I am also on Virgin and they have changed their email system so they may not be filtering this stuff out as effectively as they were).

Jasonandyawegunorts · 21/08/2015 10:03

Probably yes orange, is it the Email address you signed up with?

DontTellThePrincessBride · 21/08/2015 10:06

I'm not sure on the email thing, part of me thinks it's maybe an unrelated coincidence?

I have four email accounts that I use regularly and I've had absolutely no unusual activity on them, no increase in spam, no odd emails.

DH, who does not use MN and has never used MN, has had an increase in spam emails to his email accounts.

I think the spam emails is unrelated.

welshgirl92 · 21/08/2015 10:08

why am i being penalized for sharing my concerns about the attack and cyber bulling, this is the first thread i have come across relating to the attack (as i have next to no idea how to navigate around mn, i just follow links in e-mails) which to be fair isn't really detailed, everyone is concerned about "passwords" and their own info (rightly so) but the link i put up stating the companies/organisations which apparently mn has "shared" our info with just gets ignored and I get told (by other mnetters) what i've put isn't in the spirit of positivity so they're going to report me, WTF, I have also been penalized for doing my own research on this as once again i don't know how to find the threads (everyone is telling me to read them and being arrogant about it, but they do not tell me how to find them) people are so quick to pass judgement rather than help someone out! - the main thing i find distressing is that mn have now said the information gathered buy the hacker/s - phisher/s or whatever could have started earlier than 6th Aug... why isn't this an issue for people?!? alot of people are being very naive about the subject as in my opinion they don't have a clue about technology/the internet/hackers/phishers etc.

Arkkorox · 21/08/2015 10:10

What are you expecting people to do? Go back in time? The hackers got into the system on the 14th of July. No one knew till the first lot of ddos attacks. It was only then that it became clear that MN had been hacked if I'm right

ppeatfruit · 21/08/2015 10:11

permets I know what you mean but dh says "The internet is like giving a loaded machine gun to a monkey" He's right if we think about it Grin

There's a cartoon of 2 dogs in front of a computer and one says to the other "On the internet no one knows you're a dog."

Simurgh · 21/08/2015 10:14

I have had no out of the ordinary email traffic, Inbox or Spambox. However, I'm with yahoo and despite their many many failings, they do seem to be ruthlessly efficient about screening spam so the fact that I haven't received spams doesn't mean that they're not being sent.

My emails are in so many places, though, that just the fact that they're out there in a list - which they may well be - doesn't mean that I'm going to be upset by it. They could be displayed on the web by thousands of people tomorrow for all I know but that's the downside of using the internet. My posties also know my name, address and - broadly - who sends me physical mail. I don't get upset by that either.

00100001 · 21/08/2015 10:20

Actually - MN were told about them getting into the system in the middle of July - it was reported to them.

PermetsTu · 21/08/2015 10:20

Morning Rebecca Smile

wannabe, I agree. As I said their reasoning is spurious. They're doing it because they can and it makes them feel clever. With their IT skills, if they had a real point to make, they'd actually make it in a way that matters.

I'm less cross now, you'll all be pleased to know. I've been for a run, seriously hurt my leg in the process and now cannot walk properly. I blame Jeffery and the horse he rode in on.

DawnOfTheDoggers · 21/08/2015 10:23

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Wolsey · 21/08/2015 10:24

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00100001 · 21/08/2015 10:25

dawn correct, it is very simple to get Justine's personal info off the web

Arkkorox · 21/08/2015 10:29

wolsey I imagine you are not the only one requesting that. I think MN are getting round to things as and when they can.

PermetsTu · 21/08/2015 10:31

welshgirl, welcome to posting on MN Smile

You will find threads that are important are 'stickied'. They remain at the top of active conversations (you can find a link to this on most talk pages). Threads posted in the site stuff topic tend to hold up to date information from HQ about what's happening on the website.

People are concerned. HQ are currently keeping us up to date with what is happening as far as possible. The real life equivalent of what is happening is that we're calmly grouping together and trying to look at what's happening in a cohesive way. You are running round on the outside of the group panicking. Sit down, read some of the stickied threads and talk to us about your concerns.

And Father Christmas is not dead. For that terrible assertion, you deserve to have your shower hacked so that it runs suddenly cold. Too soon for hacking jokes? I never can tell.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 21/08/2015 10:31

Wolsey But your username and posting history have always been openly available on the internet? And even if MN removes all the posts, they will still be available on the internet...

FuckOffJeffrey · 21/08/2015 10:32

I think I might have figured something out about Jeffrey. I've let MNHQ know but obviously don't want to post here as he will be watching this thread.

On another note I think if there was a swatting last night we would have heard about it by now. I don't buy the story about it being revenge for fathers. No one who has children of their own would send a swat team to a house knowing there was children sleeping there.

PlayingSolitaire · 21/08/2015 10:34

Thanks RebeccaMumsnet. It's reassuring to know you're about. It's a bit like hearing the Today programme and knowing we're not under nuclear attack.

RepeatAdNauseum · 21/08/2015 10:34

Wolsey It's not a priority right now, because it makes no difference. It won't remove your posts anyway, they will be accessible through the cache if someone wanted to look for them, so it makes no difference.

Put in a dereg request and log off, if that's what you need to do, but you're wasting your time waiting for MNHQ to delete your posts before you go because they are on the internet anyway, deleting them now is an exercise in futility.

Everyone using the internet should be aware that you can't decide to remove everything after the fact. Once you've posted it, it's there, for good. Asking for it to be removed now is useless.

RepeatAdNauseum · 21/08/2015 10:35

Wolsey It's not a priority right now, because it makes no difference. It won't remove your posts anyway, they will be accessible through the cache if someone wanted to look for them, so it makes no difference.

Put in a dereg request and log off, if that's what you need to do, but you're wasting your time waiting for MNHQ to delete your posts before you go because they are on the internet anyway, deleting them now is an exercise in futility.

Everyone using the internet should be aware that you can't decide to remove everything after the fact. Once you've posted it, it's there, for good. Asking for it to be removed now is useless.

RepeatAdNauseum · 21/08/2015 10:35

FFS. Fed up of MN double posting everything I write now. Grr.

PermetsTu · 21/08/2015 10:35

And Lavri, can I please wish you all the very best for some positive news. Please don't feel chased away from MN. The things that make it great (that's all of us btw) haven't changed.

I was going to PM you but I think the PM system is probably best left alone for now.

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