what's this PO stuff all about? I have just read some really vile stuff on here....

[Portofino]

Women presumably who don't have a certain sense of humour, or don't agree with certain (long standing) posters being described as beige admin workers who nag their ugly husbands, who were friendless at school, wear cheap clothes, have no fun in their sad little joyless lives etc etc Literally paragraphs and paragraphs of nastiness.

This is some of the most vile and misogynistic stuff I have ever read on MN from other women. These kind of comments normally come from trolls and MRA invasions. Is this really what MN has become? Does everyone think that this sort of shit should stand? What happened to the fucking sisterhood?

I am astounded to be quite honest.

I also said I thought it was not appropriate to name posters.

One of my absolute favourite things about MN is when someone has been arguing a particular point, and then they change their mind if someone posts a better argument.

And when posters apologise for getting it wrong.

That is the best of MN IMO

Porto, um, it was utterly obvious who and what you were talking about in your op tho, wasn't it? I mean, we all got it..

It was easy to tell who you meant by your OP.

I don't know what calumny means

If according to MN etiquette it is all right to call into question comments made on a thread, call them vile and ask if that's where MN is headed, how is it all right not to name the poster, not to post on the thread itself - or the second clearly marked follow-on thread?

Threads about threads are not where MN is headed either, surely?

Well it wasn't hard to work out who you were talking about but that's beside the point isn't it?

You read something you didn't like. Then you started a thread about it.

Calumny reminds me of:

"Infamy, infamy, they've all got it in for me!"

makes me think of infamy infamy they've all got it in for me

Hully

Fair point but I don't really care who the posters were. It was the comments I objected to.

[bugrin] at Fid and Hully's cross posts.
What does calumny mean?

The problem is, if you say something us happening without giving examples, people go "who?where? I haven't seen it are you making it up give us an example!" As happened up tgere^ and if an example is given then that's wrong too so if you don't want to get tangled up in a specific argument on a thread but raise it as a bugger culture issue, you really can't win can you?

Sorry for mixed up vowels, hate typing on phone

why aren't any examples ever given of this hated group of posters ruining Mumsnet for another, small, group of posters, who complain endlessly about them?

Can any of those be provided?

I would like to be part of the bugger culture please

I really think things should be called and dealt with on their relevant threads to stop all the snarkiness and who what where that follows

and yes, I am desperate to know about the bullying gang

polly this isn't Dragons Den

There are threads on here that I would never join. Mainly because I disagree with what is being said but don't want to say.

I tried once and distinctly remember being called PO. So I stopped. I don't want any hassle on here, I have plenty to go round in RL.

Most probably cowardly but as I say, it's the best thing for me.

I am quite certain that I am not alone.

If people are telling you that something is offensive it should generally be assumed that that is what they mean.

Whether it is on the thread in question or not seems irrelevant.

The whole bullying thing is another question. Although it seems highly unlikely that it doesn't exist and possibly makes MN unique as far as large groups are concerned.

I feel for any newbies that come on and try to make any sense of all this....

thats interesting, miss a, that you stopped posting your view I mean. why didn't you fight your corner? ( if you dont mind me asking)

you can get cream for that maybesomemoney

Presumably I am in it. ? Though I don't think I make a habit of bullying MNetters . I will say that I tend to see things a bit in black and white and can be a right knob at times when I engage in debate (usually after wine has been consumed). I am not mean spirited though. And I mostly stick to Travel these days....