what's this PO stuff all about? I have just read some really vile stuff on here....

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Women presumably who don't have a certain sense of humour, or don't agree with certain (long standing) posters being described as beige admin workers who nag their ugly husbands, who were friendless at school, wear cheap clothes, have no fun in their sad little joyless lives etc etc Literally paragraphs and paragraphs of nastiness.

This is some of the most vile and misogynistic stuff I have ever read on MN from other women. These kind of comments normally come from trolls and MRA invasions. Is this really what MN has become? Does everyone think that this sort of shit should stand? What happened to the fucking sisterhood?

I am astounded to be quite honest.

I thought Pan was bullied off the other thread.

I dont know what anyone is talking about anymore

I dont know who usual suspects are ( thought you meant usual ay first!)

I dont know who the gang of bullies are

I dont know what I am to reflect on

ill go and do the cleaning

I think it's easier for you to blame bullies, rather than accept you may be out of order. If I remember rightly, I'm meant to be one of them.

Thing is that I don't know most of the folk on here, and expect they'd be surprised to find out they're meant to be part of a group. I also didn't realise that the thread was about something you'd written - I'd (wrongly) assumed it was about bashing the "prof offended" again. I backed out when I realised it was.

Anyway. Not everyone who doesn't find you funny is PO, and not everyone who disagrees with you is part of a bullying group. If think they are / I am, then report to HQ who can clear it up. Again. And find there's nothing going on. Again. Cos I'm as tired reading about it.

You won't find it Yellow and Green as it's not there.

Yes, I had already got distracted anyway!

If it turns up it turns up.

I stand by what I said.

It is the same at school, bullying is often minimised by some. I guess that is human life, different levels of tolerance.

that is an interesting thought dadthelion

Yes, it is really shit when bad schools say there is no bullying going on when incidents are brought to their attention. I agree with Dadthelion.

I also have no idea what is now being discussed.

I do not understand the term 'usual suspects'.

I do not perceive a fixed group of bullies.

I was just talking about individual comments.

This thread is a witch hunt if ever I saw one.

so do I, well said dadthelion, bravo!

This thread is utterly baffling tbh.

I was on the other thread. I posted stuff that I'm sure if someone looked hard enough, they would find it offensive in some way shape or form.

But here we have a whole thread dedicated to the "cuntiness of queenie" apparently.
With the odd "bullying, mumsnet royalty" etc thrown in for good measure.

I don't really understand the point of it tbh.

I will never for the life of me understand people who read a thread they don't like/aren't interested in and feel the need to start a whole other thread about how terrible it is.
What does it achieve?

With thousands of users, you are going to come across views, opinions, jokes that are not to your taste.
That is probably because not everyone is the same

Is it not possible to look at a thread and think, well I don't very much like the humour/subject matter/poster and just not read it?

There are plenty of people on mumsnet who I do not agree with.

If I spent the whole time starting threads and arguing with them, I would only be on here for that reason. Not to chat, to offer advice, to have a laugh with people who have the same SOH.

What's the point in using a site just to bloody well argue with everyone.

Re the benefits bashing.

Just because one thing is wrong, it doesn't make other wrong things ok. So it's fine to call people on things if it is wrong.

So lets all find our voices.

And as another poster said, a little kindness ( all round) wouldn't go wrong.

I would strongly like to see a culture of kindness and compassion on MN rather than a culture of unkindness and cruelty.

Well said Tantrums.

Not in relation to anyone or anything regarding this thread but I get upset by the posters who are professionally argumentative just for the sake of it. Or the professional derailers, spotting the the thread is going along nicely, then BOOM! Like internet arsonists. probably sitting back to watch the carnage.

what about the wooly hugs and secret santas and all the people who go off and give support and practical help? That's surely a culture of kindness and compassion?

Dadthelion - thanks for the sentiment, really, but I didn't feel 'bullied'. As Elanor Roosevelte indicated, you have to accept invitations to feel bad/bullied /whatever. I withdrew to avoid pointless garbage being generated. Seemed best at the time for all concerned.

I don';t know LaQueen ( so not interested in anyone's gang) but I agree that the explanation for such poor posts to be less than convincing. Not that she'll worry about that.

Starting a thread like this,purely to slag off a poster you don't like is not exactly going to encourage a culture of kindness is it?

If you have a issue with a poster call it on the thread or report them.

"Starting a thread like this,purely to slag off a poster you don't like" - that is a calumny against the OP.

I am totally & utterly lost on this thread - I really don't see any bullying going on on MN, but I have only been here a few months.

I don't see 'cliques' & favourites but I do see that some people post far more than others (the same on all forums).

I thought LAQueen's posts about PO's were funny, really funny.

I see far more hatred generated towards men than any other single group. I was quite amazed by that when I first joined here. So I don't tend to look at posts that I think are going to go down the man hating line. It's a big enough place to find entertainment, help or comfort & be able to ignore what you don't like.

oh come on, you think it was started for the 'greater good of MN'

nah, not having that.

Usual, I'm surprised at your stance on this. especially given your (right, imo) standing on the "chav" argument. If you read those posts and they were written by someone else would you feel the same?

Calumny!

Fantastic.

Ginslinger, that's a line I see trotted out a lot to excuse the cuntishness that happens on some threads. MNetters can be amazing it doesn't mean that its ok to launch into personal attacks on posters in the name of 'calling a spade a spade.'

I'm not defending laqueen, I just think this thread is a witch hunt. I've read far far worse posts on here slagging off the poor, those in council houses etc

I've never seen this many posters oppose those views.

Just read the whole thread as it's a bit of an eye opener! Been posting here for about 3 years off and on. I didn't know about MN royalty (slightly horrified that I may have been in their presence and did not curtsy/grovel) or about cliques (is that what quiches are?) or about po/PO (I know people who called the police the po po. If you reread thread but take it to mean the police it is very "thug life").

Anyway I think if LaQueen meant it was the person's attitude that made them so wretched it's fair enough. But a few times it didn't seem attitude centred like
"their DCs are at a mediocre school, struggling to hit average targets..." Thought that was strange as it wasn't "despite DC's trying hard at school it's not good enough for po face." It's comments like that I think that seem like LaQueen meant more what the family have and achieve.

But LaQueen has qualified her comments to be about the attitude so I'll take that at face value.

On a side note the popular, glittery, sparkly thing made me think of Mean Girls! On Wednesdays do you wear pink?

Um, who am I meant to be "slagging off" exactly? I have made no personal comments about anyone. I called into question some vile comments and asked if this was MN was coming to.