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Deletions etc

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JustineMumsnet · 30/05/2012 19:50

So we've had a get together at MNHQ and we have come up with the following set of actions/proposals, following on from the previous thread:

  1. We will make more effort to be communicative and transparent. This will include the MNHQ duty person posting on the boards more to explain a deletion of a post or a thread and providing more info in cases where we have banned or suspended someone for trolling, so folks know that we are "doing something". We will also try to provide more specific message deleted info - ie more than just because it "breaks talks guidelines" (eg because it perpetuates rape myths etc) (NB this will take a bit of time because it involves tech)
  1. We will aim to be quicker to delete threads that have been or seem to have been started purely to inflame/goad, even if it means we occasionally might make a mistake. This is to avoid the goady threads where an OP is deliberately inflaming, leading to a lot of deleted responses. We will also suspend those who we suspect of being out to deliberately goad and make sure our guidelines reflect this.
  1. We will aim for a lighter touch approach to deletions where discussion is robust but lively and interesting and "attacks" are borderline/very slight/ 6 of one, half a dozen of the other.
  1. We will make sure everyone at MNHQ is aware of looking at the bigger picture - not just focus on the reported post - and is clear on what constitutes a personal attack - ie that it's ok to attack an opinion, not ok to attack a poster.
  1. Our policy on trollhunting remains not to tolerate it - so please don't do it, but please do report suspicions to us. That said, we will try to be more communicative on threads where folks suspect a troll - ie we are aware that some people have expressed doubts and we are looking into it/ we have checked this out and have no reason to believe this person is a troll/ we agree this person is not what they seem and have deleted the thread.
  1. We will hold regular chats/q&as about moderation issues and policy - monthlyish? - where we can have a good debate about any particular bugbear or issue and one of us will discuss policy and why we do what we do...

Out of interest we've checked the deletions thing and surprisingly the number of deleted messages seems to have dropped not risen year on year - even though traffic is up by more than 40%
(these include messages deleted from deleted threads - so one long thread = 1000 deletions)

Jan 1st 2011 to May 29th 2011: 81884 messages
Jan 1st 2012 to May 29th 2012: 72037 messages

Nonetheless we think people have raised some good points and we hope all trying the above will make the board better - if not we'll try something else Smile - thanks for all the input.

Please do post your thoughts/observations (disclaimer - I'm off out shortly so won't be around to respond tonight but will be back tomorrow)

OP posts:
PrincessPinot · 31/05/2012 13:48

episodes clip here

Hullygully · 31/05/2012 13:49

Hey you deleted a hater on my repub fred! You should leave them there in all their hatery glory...

Tee2072 · 31/05/2012 13:49

Thank you Justine. I do appreciate that MNHQ listens to us.

I used to belong to a forum where we all got banned one night (about 30 people) for a thread similar to the one you just responded to. So nice to be treated like grown ups.

Now ::flips out rolled up spreadsheet, peers over glasses:: Thumb is pregnant ::check:: Congratulations, BTW!

Abs is getting married ::mutters:: Ab comes before Ac... ::check::

And Olivia has been at HQ for 6 years, you say? ::thumbs through Anniversary meaning book:: Iron...anyone want to put in 1p each and buy Olivia an iron? We could each put in 2p and get a board to go with it? Grin Oh wait, it's OliviaL now, isn't it? ::updates spreadsheet::

PrincessPinot · 31/05/2012 13:51

Hully :( so sorry you're still fending off such nastiness.

Tee2072 · 31/05/2012 13:51

Oh, I meant to say, Darren is still around. He's been working on the App.

[beta tester emoticon]

TheRhubarb · 31/05/2012 13:59

I think Justine's response is good. I'm not on enough to see all these hatey threads or deletions so feel that I can't really have a say on this issue. However it's nice to think that goading will be acted upon as I have been the victim of a few goaders who kinda gang up and repeat these trivial insults even when you've given a long and very reasonable answer. It always seemed petty to report it as what would you say? They appear to be goading me? It seemed rather childish but now that the subject has been raised I would feel happier in reporting it.

Don't tend to get deleted myself very often but will make a special effort from now on Grin

PrincessPinot · 31/05/2012 14:00

Oh hang about Hully that thread was a bit of a headfuck on all sides. You are norty MsGully.

Thumbwitch · 31/05/2012 14:00

Oooo I didn't know that Stephen Mangan was in Episodes as well. I love Green Wing so much, my nearly favourite sitcom ever (Black Books just takes top spot) - must try and see Episodes. Don't know how though - haven't seen it on Aussie tv yet!

Thanks Tee!

HoneyDragonWearingLederhosen · 31/05/2012 14:03

Abs you are as always right. I have lots on with my dictating.

BIWItheBold · 31/05/2012 14:11

Getorf - I was wearing my new jeans yesterday (size 10 - already a bit too big Grin) with my t-shirt tucked in.

Low carbing apart from the wine going well. Will test my resolve this weekend to stay away from the pasta though.

PrincessPinot · 31/05/2012 14:12

I wonder if the non-gluten pasta is so heavy in carbs? Its delish.

Maryz · 31/05/2012 14:19

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Fiderer · 31/05/2012 14:19

There is also a lovely LisaMN who sorted out my email doodah problems most promptly and efficiently

But think of it, heh, if she hadn't, where else could I witter and witter and witter some more? It was touch and go for a while.

AbsofAwesomeness · 31/05/2012 14:30

I've been a low key bride, defo not up to Pinot's level of bridezilla behaviour. I have appeared on some "if you pay more than 50p for your wedding you obviously don't love each other" threads telling the OP they're being a moron. Then there was one thread about "I don't understand why people get stressed over organising a wedding" and nearly thwatted someone who was "resolving" everyone's wedding dilemmas (at the time, my SIL was sending me links to every single outfit she was contemplating wearing, as if anyone cares what she looks like, it's all about ME. I was annoyed).

Fiderer · 31/05/2012 14:39

Abs - if you're still feeling half-way sane and you're looking forward to it, then you're doing great Grin

I may do festive Martinis in your honour. The Swizzle Stick will be duly dunked.

BIWItheBold · 31/05/2012 14:55

Have a brilliant, lovely, fabulous day, Abs!

Fuzzywood · 31/05/2012 14:59

Abs I hope you suggested a particularly hideous outfit for your SIL, no more than she deserves for such behaviour. If I may be so bold as to pass on the only bit of useful wedding day advice I was given, just remember to take a bit of time for just you and your by then DH to yourselves to take a step back and take it all in. Otherwise it's over before you know it. Enjoy, I'm Envy I love a good wedding Grin

AbsofAwesomeness · 31/05/2012 15:00

Thanks Biwi and Fiderer!

Martinis ... NICE. My incredibly lame as it was all work colleagues hen night involved a lot of martinis. A LOT

MrsVamos · 31/05/2012 15:06

Many congratulations, Abs.

I hope you and DH-to-be have a lovely Wedding Day.

Tee2072 · 31/05/2012 15:16

Oh honestly, people, you do not congratulate the bride!! It's rude!

I hope you will be very happy, Abs, and have a wonderful wedding day.

get0rfm0iland · 31/05/2012 15:30

Is it really rude to congratulate a bride? i have never heard of that one. Grin

MrsVamos · 31/05/2012 15:36

Apparently saying congratulations to a bride implies that she is 'lucky' to be getting married, when you should in fact congratulate the groom. This is because he is fortunate as the bride said yes to his proposal.

Old Victorian ettiquette.

I never knew that.

Abs, I hope your DH to be KNOWS how lucky he is to be marrying you, and he is to be congratulated on convincing you to say yes ! Grin

Hullygully · 31/05/2012 15:38

Mazel tov! Mr Absy-to-be.

Thumbwitch · 31/05/2012 15:38

Oh bugger that - it would be more rude to ignore the fact that Abs is getting married in 4 days, surely? Grin

Tee2072 · 31/05/2012 15:41

That would be why, MrsV! Grin

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