DBF BANNING THREAD: 3

[oldqueenie]

are we allowed to carry on discussing this?

Like I tell my kids when both are caught fighting "I don't care who started it and who hit the hardest, neither of you chose to walk away therefore you both receive the same punishment."

A robin just landed on my bird table, how cute! Wasn't I meant to be working?

DBF had done what MNHQ asked of her, she had 'toned down' her posts, a lot. She called TLES a liar. Calling someone who has been proven to be lying a liar is really not like shooting your mouth off randomly at a poster asking a question about rehoming their dog. She had been warned about 'lecturing' as MNHQ calls it, about being 'shouty and opinionated' this is different. Had she posted this on the relationships board (where she also offered great advice) or any other board it would most likely have been ignored. She hasn't been banned for doing what she was given the warnings about, she has been banned for something different.

If a child is on a final warning for pushing kids on the playground, then is rude to a teacher - is it OK to punish them as if they have pushed another child in the playground or do you punish them like any other child that had been rude to the teacher? IMO that is the question.

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GalaxyWeaverWed 09-Nov-11 13:57:25

but chipping, she didnt just call her a liar.. it was the whole "You are a liar, foolish and a disgrace, not just for what you are doing to this dog but for trying to discredit someone who works her arse off to save them. You appall me and I am furious..." that got her banned.

That should not have got her banned. All of it was true.

Rhubarb - Vallhala/DBF had been banned before, yes. I'm not sure under which name. But if you are asking was she banned under Vallhala but posting under DBF then no, she wasn't. She was no longer banned and she was open about her namechange.

rhubarb - I'm not 'taking it up with you' I'm responding to your posts. That's all.

Rhubs thats the Christmas Robin. He comes to check to see if you're being good, then flies back to the North Pole to tell the Big Man.

Suggests starting the acceptance process...

This is all too heavy for an internet forum, I don't have the stamina any more

Banned, name changed, not banned but stalked, banned again or was it first time ban? Insulting but not really, going by two names, facebook accounts - all very confusing. I think I'm inclined, just from this thread alone, to err on the side of the ban.

There are llamas outside you know...

DreamsOfSteam - DBF posted personal stuff on here as well (yes, she does post in other areas as well as the DH!) and perhaphs she didn't want the person who was stalking her to do a search on Vallhala and find those posts or whatever).

Anyway, name changing is allowed. Lots of people on here actually post under several names at the same time. So long as you don't do it on the same thread to back yourself up it's not sock puppeting and it's allowed.

DBF simply name changed and made no bones about it. She even put

that was somewhere in the threads - everything is by this point - IIRC she'd given up caring about it. Summat like that. [shrug]

Just imagine if she did come back under a new name you could spot her a mile away I'm sure

Her FB used to be private and could only be viewed by friends. She changed it shortly after all this kicked off so her 'MN friends' could find her.

I didn't suggest that name changing wasn't allowed, I just have trouble understanding why if there is a genuine stalker that the facebook page would still stand.

Rhubarb - you are twisting things now and that's really not on.

DBF was banned under either DBF or vallahala (I can't remember which) but was allowed to start posting again. No one has said she was never banned.

Vallhala changed her name to DBF (in much the same way you & others change your name).

She was stalked - people are.

She has not 'gone by two names' she namechanged. Less so that the majority of posters on MN, but a long way.

Most posters have a facebook account.

Really - what is your problem with DBF you are coming across as quite nasty now and that's not something I had you down as.

DoS - because when she namechanged her facebook was private.

oh right, that explains it then DooinMeCleaning

Her FB page says it was set up in October 2011.

I'm not stirring, I'm confused. I thought that valhalla was an old mumsnetter who was banned many moons ago. And lots of people are referring to her under both names. If you don't have a clue what's going on then all of this is very confusing and complicated and I'm sorry but it does make you wonder what else has gone on/is going on.

She never namechanged to avoid bans or to sockpuppet or for any dodgy reason.

She namechanged to avoid stalking.

And even more confusing is why she is listed as valhalla and vallhala on Mumsnet (note the different spellings). I assume this is the same person?

Does anyone really know what is going on?

It's only confusing to you because you've entered a discussion three threads in about a poster you aren't much aware of, Rhubarb. There isn't anything really very complicated at all.

does anyone care....

Yes, sixstring

She changed from one spelling to the other to make herself less searchable when the stalking started. When that didn't help she namechanged. She was given a temporary ban under the name DBF I believe and was then allowed back if she agreed to tone it down, which she had been doing.

She has several Facebook accounts. One for MN, one for personal use and one for her rescue work. All of which were set to 'private' until very recently. She started referring to herself under boths names when she gave up trying to avoid the stalking. Other posters followed suit. It is common knowledge that she was both Vallhala/Valhalla and DogsBestFriend.

Chipping

I don't give a flying fuck if she is banned or not, but look:

She was on a warning re personal attacks.

She personally attacked

Warning was followed through.

Simple.

Whether or not you feel the personal attack was justified is irrelevant.

calatalie I do hope you aren't talking about things other than the matter strictly at hand? you know you hate that.

Riiight. Well it ain't common knowledge to me and many others and doesn't explain why it says her facebook account for Vallhala was started last month.

Calatalie - there must be around 10 threads all on this subject, you can hardly avoid it! To my knowledge I've posted on the puppy photo one and this one, but I may be wrong, I don't track my own threads very often. I'm interested in this as the story unravelling is actually quite gripping, a bit like a mystery whodunnit.

I remember some controversy around valhalla aaaaages ago on Mumsnet that I wasn't caught up in so I remain interested to find out more. Blatant rubber necking I think you call it.