MNHQ .. Can we talk about disability bashing?

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Over the years i have posted on and enjoyed MN.
Sadly there seems to be a growing culture of it being okay to have a go at disabilities, those who claim DLA and those who's children have 'invisable' disabilities such as ADHD and ADD.
The terms 'freak' and 'scrounger' have been batted around and comments from some posters IMO certainly boarder on harrassment and discrimination.

When certain posts or posters have been reported, some have been removed, yet a lot haven't.

And while I agree with free speech, these types of comment or reaction to these comments, are not an education for those bigoted posters. Nor do those whose lives are touched by disability wish to be used to educate those posters.

Disability Harassment

is unwanted behaviour based on disability,
impairment or additional need. Such behaviour may include comments that are patronising or objectionable to the recipient or which creates an intimidating, hostile or offensive environment for people with disabilities. Disability harassment includes inappropriate reference to disability, unwelcome discussion of the impact of disability, refusal to work with and exclusion of people with disabilities from social events or meetings.

Too true, justa. You get plenty on Daily Mail reading teachers, I suppose.

My uni runs PGCE courses and the SN input is half a day; many skip that as they think it isn;t relevant to them.

that's just ridicukous. I knwo of at least one etahcer working in an SN Base who ahs never updayed beyond that and about whom I am considering whetehr to contact the LEA as I am seriosuly unhappy about her teaching (not sure if I have a case or not, need to speak to somenoe next week)

RobF is a charmer too. Check out his post today. Swearing induced by by that one absolutely.
Am taking the report it all option. Sorry if makes me annoying but heck, so be it.

Ah Mamzon did you anme a troll who is happy to abuse us randomly?

Sob.

Not.

Expect i will follow. So be it then.

Hello. Please can we remind you not to trollhunt on the boards. It's against our Talk Guidelines

Instead, please report any bridge-dweller suspicions/concerns to us and we will take a look. Sometimes, this takes us a while - we do like to look into these things properly. So we do ask that you bear with us.

Saying that, if you think we're being particularly slow - or might have missed your report (does occasionally happen ), do please give us a prod.

Well have reported several today.

So we are wanted to educate but responding to reports and suspected trolls takes ages, which palces us in the firing line?

Fuck that!

sorry. wasn't even sure i spelt it right, its an odd name.

I am not troll hunting. But when someone consistently posts offensive tripe it is hard for it to go unnoticed.

You're about 4th today to raise that poster Mamzon, although mainly on the site stuff theread

Oh hang on too much thread juggling

Why such an influx on anti Sn again btw?

Would it be certain posters have logged on, do you think?

@Peachy

Well have reported several today.

So we are wanted to educate but responding to reports and suspected trolls takes ages, which palces us in the firing line?

Fuck that!

We have replied to your mail, Peachy.

Thanks you, I understand where you are coming from but equally, watch and wait changes nothing in the short term

ANd again, why so many threads at one again? I hope you check the OPs on them to make sure it's not one spawn of satan name changing?

@Peachy

Thanks you, I understand where you are coming from but equally, watch and wait changes nothing in the short term

ANd again, why so many threads at one again? I hope you check the OPs on them to make sure it's not one spawn of satan name changing?

We don't necessarily watch and wait.

And do please report the threads you're concerned about - we can't look into them unless we're made aware of them.

Hav reported several today. One has been addressed I understand by teh OP asking for it o bemoved but I will report them anyway and you can sort through

whilst i understand the "watch and wait" approach is in keeping with our democratic right to be innocent until proven guilty, MN isn't a court of law.

Like with a bar/pub the owner has teh right to refuse entry for any reason they deem fit.

I think if someone is persistently posting offensively - like the person i named - they should be given a warning. if they continue they should be banned.

I don't think it is good enough to just say we are keeping in an eye on it. just how vile does someone have to get before action is taken?

@Mamaz0n

whilst i understand the "watch and wait" approach is in keeping with our democratic right to be innocent until proven guilty, MN isn't a court of law.

Like with a bar/pub the owner has teh right to refuse entry for any reason they deem fit.

I think if someone is persistently posting offensively - like the person i named - they should be given a warning. if they continue they should be banned.

I don't think it is good enough to just say we are keeping in an eye on it. just how vile does someone have to get before action is taken?

We never said we were just keeping an eye. "Watch and wait" isn't our only response/course of action. We're not sure where that assumption is coming from, tbh

That would be ideal Lenin.

No Helen I appreciate that. But it is the answer "we" seem to get most often though. Either that or the ' we aren't going to delete as we feel the thread will be a good source of education' or words to that effect 'if you find it upsetting just hide it'

both are incredibly frustrating. Especially given the over zealous pro active deletions on a certain missing child thread recently.

@Mamaz0n

That would be ideal Lenin.

No Helen I appreciate that. But it is the answer "we" seem to get most often though. Either that or the ' we aren't going to delete as we feel the thread will be a good source of education' or words to that effect 'if you find it upsetting just hide it'

both are incredibly frustrating. Especially given the over zealous pro active deletions on a certain missing child thread recently.

OK, we tend to answer "we'll take a look" when a poster is first reported to us because we mean just that - we're going to take a look to see what action needs taking (or not). Because the look-taking can take a little while sometimes, we think it's polite to respond in this way to whoever made the report, rather than leave them hanging without any acknowledgement from us. It doesn't mean we just watching and waiting.

Re the 'education' response, we've already posted earlier on in this thread that we're going to look at the way we phrase that one, as we can see that it can taken as quite patronising if you're a poster who's been on MN for a while.