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Where did the 'HouseBoy' thread go?

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ifancyashandy · 11/07/2010 21:18

I went away for a while, was reading from page 25 to catch up and clicked on 'next page and pfft...all gone.

What did I miss?

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SlartyBartFast · 11/07/2010 22:55

not necessarily in the hope that everyone would kick off. obviously knew the mention of having a houseboy would irk some posters,

ninah · 11/07/2010 22:55

'light the touch paper?'

SpringHeeledJack · 11/07/2010 22:55

no Slarty- the op says so on another thread

I'm a bit at Brighton. I thought they were all lefties down there?

Imarriedafrog · 11/07/2010 22:56

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KickArseQueen · 11/07/2010 22:59

sparkeofsense, sometimes its about other things too, click my link up ^ a bit

Anyfucker, for a second I wondered which thread you'd seen me on!! phew!

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I hope you've been busy on my link!!

Eurostar · 11/07/2010 23:00

I went out, came back to find my call to revolution to help "Fred" get a visa, deleted along with the rest.

It was an odd type of wind up as it was all quite real. Seems to be some people at the rl meet knew that MOS would get a strong reaction for posting her complaint to the gang that she was having to do ironing while she could have had Fred here to do that, and show him a bit of England's green and pleasant land, rather than have him stuck back at the compound washing up a pot noodle fork and watching cricket on Star TV. I think they were naughty people pushing MOS into posting, in the same way that Simon Cowell is a bugger for humiliating people who have no idea how they actually come across in real life.

I'm totally not understanding why Noddy was called a B*tch, she was hardly on the thread, although she did agree with my post that it was not on to use someone's hard life and travel ban as a basis for a post for a wheeze with the gals.

thatbuzzingnoise · 11/07/2010 23:01

isn't attention seeking and winding up really facets of the same thing?

One cannot bring labour hired abroad into the UK unless the employment contract follow UK employment laws.

The Saudi and other Gulf Royal families used to bring their help here and now they cannot.

expatinscotland · 11/07/2010 23:04

It was all a moot point because there's no way she'd have been able to get a visa for the poor chap, his being a non-EU national.

sharbie · 11/07/2010 23:06

Hmm just read the local Brighton thread.
Looks like there are some on MN who want to cause a fuss and then run away when it all goes a bit pear shaped on them.

StayFrostyInTheMeakersHouse · 11/07/2010 23:08

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desertgirl · 12/07/2010 08:56

expatinscotland, had she employed him directly she might have been able to, I know people who have been able to get visas for their domestic staff on a temporary basis; though they have had very good reasons.

I think I am disappointed the thread was pulled, I wanted to see if anyone had answered some of the questions I had (like how it would be to anyone's advantage or decrease the inequalities in the world if I didn't employ my housekeeper) though even very early on MOS was fairly open about having intended to get people going - I said something about 'this was never going to go down well on here' and she said, basically, that was the plan!

I hope the comments above about expats banging on about how grateful their staff are don't refer to me; I didn't say that; though I did comment on what my housekeeper has managed to do in the Philippines with her money during the time she has been in the Gulf (not just with me). I don't suppose she is any more "grateful" than I am to my employer, though we have a good relationship.

I also don't get the people going on about it being demeaning for someone to do your housework for you; was it demeaning for the cleaning service I had in the UK (when I didn't have children, just a job with long hours) to come in and clean? is it demeaning for the lady who cleans for my mum to come in and do that?

Yes the term houseboy is alien to many ears; if that were the only issue I would have understood, but the anti-domestic-staff brigade, I just didn't see where they were coming from; would the rest of the thread have made it any clearer, I wonder?

williewalshsballs · 12/07/2010 09:04

I agree with you desertgirl. I just don't understand how else huge swwathes of the population are expected to earn a living without the availability of domestic work. Let alone the poor infrastructure and lack of convenience goods that mean greater reliability on domestic help.

As I said above, I am "educatable" on the issue of terminology. But it is utterly ilogical to protest about the employment of domestic staff.

williewalshsballs · 12/07/2010 09:06

I also know people who travel with their domestic help-this is for tether-er

williewalshsballs · 12/07/2010 09:07

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catinthehat2 · 12/07/2010 09:37

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tethersend · 12/07/2010 09:39

Arf

dittany · 12/07/2010 09:42

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ruddynorah · 12/07/2010 09:46

oof!

traceybath · 12/07/2010 09:48

A very close friend moved to Hong Kong several years ago.

Before she went we used to joke about people who kept a 'lady' under the stairs to do all their chores. We agreed it was pretty dreadful.

Fast forward a couple of years and when I visited I met their live-in maid/nanny and saw her teeny/tiny bedroom off the kitchen complete with bathroom that consisted of a shower over the loo.

My face must have shown how shocked I was - I mean this was still my lovely friend. But after a few years of the expat life - she had come to think this was normal.

dittany · 12/07/2010 09:53

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pagwatch · 12/07/2010 09:57

Can I just ask?
I keep MN and FB seperate - in fact rarely use fb.
I have linked one MN member. And have not joined MN group.

Do MN fB groups and sub groups all do threads about threads?
If I am having a spat with someone on here , are they sitting on a FB group discussing with other MNers what a cunt I am?

Just wondering.. [paranoid] and

traceybath · 12/07/2010 09:59

Have just finished reading 'The Help' and its bizarre just how similar the expat life sounds to the US of the 60's - and not in a good way.

isthatporridgeinyourhair · 12/07/2010 10:03

My BIL emigrated to live in South Africa about 10 years ago. He and SIL employed a maid/housekeeper who lived in a tiny room that formed part of the garage! This was apparently normal. She sent money home and saw her young children about once every 6 months. It made me feel sick.

Fortunately I did have a chance to tell my(now ex) SIL my views on the subject when visiting SA. Well, she did ask for it after she told me that Nelson Mandela was a terrorist.

traceybath · 12/07/2010 10:06

Well Pag - I have some of the mn Style and Beauty ladies on fb and we never talk about mn on fb.

Its like fight club isn't it? It was the whole blurring/crossover thing that was a bit uncomfortable I think.

daftpunk · 12/07/2010 10:13

Pagwatch;

I (finally) gave into facebook about a month ago. On joining quite a few people from MN who I have had email convos with over the yrs came up as friend suggestions...I ignored all but 1 of them...(on facebook to get away from MN iykwim)....would never join the mumsnet f/b group either....Now you've got me wondering if those friend suggestions can see what I'm saying..?

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