With a shamefaced grin at myself for starting a pram thread ... bearing in mind its a long time since I had a baby ... would i really regret only being able to use a carseat for the first six months (rather than a "proper" pram?)

[MamaG]

Space is limited as this is baby no. 3 and we have a dog so not lots of boot space.

Victorian terraced house so long narrow hall.

I def want a pram/puschair that I can attach a car seat to and was looking at quinny zapp purely for the size of it when folded. However, as it can't be used without the car seat until baby is 6 months old, and I know children shouldnt be in car seats for too long, I wonder if I'm being daft for considering it?

It's not totally straighforrward, the carrycot unclips easily, but I think you have to unclip the adapters, too. Not difficult, but more than one move. The frame compensates by being so quick to fold.

Sounds ok, I just didn't want to be fiddling around for ages if I wanted to go somewhere in teh car. OOh I'm excited now (saddo) and want to go test one out!

I love prams. I'm by no means a pramaholic, but I do like choosing them. Just remember that the ebay guy is selling the old style carrycot which clips on a bit differently to the new one, but I think it's a good compromise since you get a new pram and carrycot for the price of a new carrycot!

As long as it clips on I'm not bothered how it clips. this is the same seller but says new carrycot but a "returned" stroller - not the end of theworld IMO.
If I get a new carrycot, will the car seat fit or will I still need new adaptors?

Both my items were new. The carrycot is new- ie completely unused, but the previous model, that's why he says the car seat adapters can be bought separately. The new style carrycot is called the 'newborn plus' and attaches with the same adapters as the car seat, a nifty thing, but I think the offer this guy has is a bargain.THis place shows the difference. You could email him to ask if he has any brand new prams in, but I'm sure it will be fine. He seemed a nice guy to me, very straightforward.

Ah I see.

I'm having second thoughts TBH as the lack of shopping basket/place to hang changing bag is putting me off a bit - how have you found it? I've been reading reviews online that say you can't hang anything on the handles (not that you're supposed to anyway!) and that hte shopping basket is almost impossible to get into with car seat/stroller seat in place

the basket is wee yes. you can use buggy weights and then hang changing bag. but yes will topple over without weights

but zapp is far worse at tipping and has no basket

I have a silver cross freeway ...and i love it!

Bargain price for that one too!

It is forward and rearfacing, pushes like a dream and is very sturdy and well made. You can use it as part of a travel system but i didn't - i hate travel systems.

The only downside of this pram is that it has to be taken apart into two peices to put in the car, but its really no hassle at all when you get used to it.

My dd is 10 months and i'm still loving it - have no intention of putting her in a buggy in the near future.

I also have a maclaren xt (that used to be dd2's) but wouldn't have liked to have put dd3 in it when she was very little (still haven't put her in it tbh as it doesn't seem anywhere near as comfy as the SC).

Good luck

Well I get my minki changing bag and a blanket and the raincover in the bag under the buggy, along with DS's collections of Precious Things. I hang things off the handles- it's just like any lightweight stroller- mclarens etc. in that regard. I just take the bags off, remove toddler then bung bags on pram seat if she wants to walk. The carrycot is 4kg, so should give reasonable ballast. You see, I have a P&T (DS &DD are only 17 months apart), and the Micralite is my lightweight, foldaway alternative to that. I think if you want to hang a week's shopping off the handles you need a big steel framed pram like the P&T, but then you have a big pram that takes up loads of space, or that you have to take to bits to store. It's a compromise either way. Personally with our lifestyle I wouldn't go for anything without air filled tyres.

Oh I defo need a trip to the pram shop!

I think so. There is a bewildering choice, so I would list your criteria in order of importance.

OMG a trip to the pram shop will make it worse!

I am hoping I'm not going to need my P&T for too long after number three comes along- I love the micralite and the fact that it takes up so little space in the house. The double has been great and I really found it useful but the big prams are well so big.

I would like pram advice please.
I had a M&P travel system last time. Liked it. Not bothered about getting nice comments about how fabby my pram is. Am worried about it fitting into my Yaris boot. Note MrsTittleMouse's comment.

MamaG have you decided?
WOuld recommend the new Loola Up or a second hand Bug, both have carrycot options for small babies.

No, not decided yet - DH sick of me trying to discuss it with him

20 week scan next week, if all OK I'm going to nosy around the pram shop

mamag - I think you need a bug

oh come now, nobody needs a certani pram do they?!

backward facing, carseat compatible, comfy for baby to sleep in and with the bonus that it holds resale value (my dh was very taken with that one) - sounds like bugaboo to me! We've just moved from our victorian terrace with narrow hall and door and so i can say that the bogaboo fits in nicely and the handling is very good making turning in narrow spaces (eg your hall) much easier. Boot space - not so good but for long journeys you can break it down into parts and then it takes up no space at all

Or you could get a roof box and put it in it?