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So... do the Welsh not share, or the English not like em???

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Flamesparrow · 14/02/2006 10:00

Welsh DH, living in Bournemouth... Every few months I might come across a supermarket selling Welsh butter - but they pretty much all sell Irish and Somerset. You can't buy Welsh cakes anywhere here, yet you can get all kind of American style cakey things. Its not like you need a little cake shop to get em in Wales - Tescos sell em, so surely they could ship a few through the rest of the UK???

Its sad, we haven't got much money right now, so his valentine's present was butter .

Soooo... why is it?? Are the Welsh just very possesive over their butter and cakes, or do shops think there is no market for it in non-Wales???

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zippitippitoes · 17/02/2006 20:07

that's right my mum used to hate dapping of balls in earshot

unfortunately it is/was one of my favourite things

cockles for tea white pudding basin doused in vinegar yum

live dabs in the larder in the washing up bowl under a cloth

Hausfrau · 17/02/2006 20:08

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zippitippitoes · 17/02/2006 20:15

is it Welsh to say Dick the milk

Jenkins the baker
Eynon the Post etc?
or is that just regional?

Hausfrau · 17/02/2006 20:16

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Pixiefish · 17/02/2006 20:48

Lonelymum-never heard of it- it's a 'twll dan grisia' here (hole under the stairs)

kbaby · 17/02/2006 21:04

jonesthesteam another Caerphilly person, me too. I wonder if I know you?

Hokeymum I cant believe that someone from Caerphilly wouldve been so anti english, he probably was a idiot.

Theres a book you can get on wenglish, it has all the odd words or sayings in.
Cwtch is my fav, but also 'ill be there now in a minute' and the best of all ' its by there'

I never thought there was anything wrong with any of these comments until someone pointed out i'd either be there now or in a minute not both and 'its there' why was I adding 'by' in.

I love the welsh accent.

Not only do we get to eat welsh cakes but the raw welsh cake mixture is even nicer.

zippitippitoes · 17/02/2006 21:17

I don't know the answer to this is "right you are "welsh or english way of speaking

IvortheEngine · 17/02/2006 22:18

We had a "cwtch dan sdar" - a cupboard under the stairs. Much nicer than 'twll dan grisia' in my opinion!

What about choir, how do you pronounce that, everyone? They used to say koi-ah where I'm from.

Anyone been called a "chops glan"? It's used when addressing a cute baby/toddler/young child.

Shall we name our favourite Welsh hymn/song/nursery rhyme while we're at it?!

JonesTheSteam · 17/02/2006 22:22

OOh Kbaby!!! Am curious now!!! Are you Caerphilly born and bred?

yoyo · 17/02/2006 23:43

I tell my children not to be "chopsy" when they give me backchat. My parents always say "wipe your chops" when they mean wipe your face. They pronounce choir as coir too.

Favourite rhymes would be "Hen fenyw bach a basged o wyau/o Landeilo i Landybie", "Mi welais Jac y Do" or "Iar fach bert yw yr iar fach i".

Will have to think about the hymn.

moondog · 17/02/2006 23:47

Oh is thisa nice thread??

Thought someone was being arsy about people speaking Welsh and didn't dare look to closely or would have had a stroke,which I really don't need at present,life being stressful enough.

Sut dach chi i gyd heno???

Sallystrawberry · 18/02/2006 00:30

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OldieMum · 18/02/2006 09:47

Just had the post delivered - a cousin of mine has sent DD (3) a lapel badge of a Welsh lady to wear on St David's Day - AWWWW!

Blandmum · 18/02/2006 09:55

Re the welsh hymn, alost all of them make me weep buckets. Not helped that nowerdays I mostly hear them in the funerals of aged aunts.

I went to one just after christmas which was a real blub fest....actually quite 'nice' in an odd way becuause the aunt was much loved and had lived a very full, happy and long life.

One of my other aunts once came to visit for the day, we went into Ottikers as she wanted to buy dd a book.

At the time they had a large rocking horse in the kids section, dd went on it and the aunt rocked her, singing a welsh song as she did it. I turned to the shop assistant and to my horror, she was crying like the rain.

When I asked her the promblem she told me that her nan used to sing that song to her when she was a little girl!

We are all a bunch of softies , the Welsh,!

Lonelymum · 18/02/2006 10:36

Oh "lovely girl" and "lovely boy" come from Wales, do they? I have noticed that several of the playgroup staff use these phrases at ds3's playgroup. I assumed it was West Country speak (it is a bit irritating to me but I will get used to it, just as I have got used to my Australian MIL saying "There's a boy", meaning there's a good boy when the child does something right). Don't take offence: you will have to forgive me as I am a very southern English, well-brought up person with a passion for good grammar and Received Pronounciation. But I do like some regional variatins and now I know Lovely Boy is Welsh, I will look upon it more favourably!

Anyway, just to report, it has crossed the Bristol Channel and is popular among Gloucestershire locals!

Hausfrau · 18/02/2006 10:41

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OldieMum · 18/02/2006 10:41

Lonelymum - plenty of well-brought up people who like good grammar in Wales, too, my dear.

JonesTheSteam · 18/02/2006 10:41

We must be soft, mb - your story has brought a tear to my eye!!!

Favourite hymn - I bob un sydd fyddlon

Favourite nursery rhyme - Gee ceffyl bach

Favourite song - Dafydd y Garreg Wen / Suo Gan

JonesTheSteam · 18/02/2006 10:42

Hausfrau - your mum won't shoot you - that's the correct spelling!!

Lonelymum · 18/02/2006 10:43

I said don't take offence! The grammar bit isns't relevant to lovely boy anyway.

I am sure lots of you care about grammar too. I wasn't suggesting otherwise. I was poking fin at myself.

Hausfrau · 18/02/2006 10:47

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PeachyClair · 18/02/2006 15:22

Must be something about me then

NFB was Normal For Bridgwater, now i'm near Newport it's NFN!!!!

Am I attracted to the 'choice' areas or what??

(Have to say Newport / Bridgwater very similar but bridgy still takes biscuit for the Bridgwater Specials).

bumpybel · 18/02/2006 16:27

Hockeymum... I used to work at Caerphilly stn and lived in Caerphilly for couple of years. Some people do take the mickey out of me (in a nice way) having a 'posh accent'(not particularly posh) as went to boarding school, and my accent sounds quite english with loads of welsh twangs. I'm wracking my brains to think who could have been so blatantly rude to you in custody, although I know it was prob a while ago as they havent had a custody unit for a couple of years. I have taken a bit of ribbing for not calling everyone 'butt', but cannot imagine anyone there purposefully being nasty or rude because of sounding different. Hope this doesnt affect the way you would feel about going back there. My in laws live in Caerphilly and have done for years. I certainly dont get treated any differently for sounding a bit different and always feel really welcome.

Cardiff will always be my fave city in the world though... did anyone used to go to Buzz or the philharmonic?!! I thought they were amazing!

Cwtch is the best word ever for describing lovely hugs!

Lonelymum · 18/02/2006 16:33

Sorry I spoke.