So... do the Welsh not share, or the English not like em???

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Welsh DH, living in Bournemouth... Every few months I might come across a supermarket selling Welsh butter - but they pretty much all sell Irish and Somerset. You can't buy Welsh cakes anywhere here, yet you can get all kind of American style cakey things. Its not like you need a little cake shop to get em in Wales - Tescos sell em, so surely they could ship a few through the rest of the UK???

Its sad, we haven't got much money right now, so his valentine's present was butter .

Soooo... why is it?? Are the Welsh just very possesive over their butter and cakes, or do shops think there is no market for it in non-Wales???

No not the village hall. You go up the hill just past the garage and it is on the bend but on the right hand side.
I didn't know he got the Castle Hotel. Wonder what he'll do with it? Boutique hotel? I went to an event at Hurst House last year and it was very poorly attended - he will have to try a lot harder to please the Welsh (employing staff with a bit more charm would help).

The Roman Museum here is free (workshops for kids over half term at £1 a go if anykids fancy being a Roman Soldier for a bit), didn't know the Baths charge but we've never been there- keep meaning to, but not very welcoming compared to the other things here. The free thing is to do with Assembly funding. The Gladiator festival type thing in the Summer costs a Tenner for a famly, but was worth it.

We're taking kids to St Fagans over half term I hops- everyone rants about it.

Question please for the Welsh Ones: Kids have just brought home a leaflet for an Eisteddfodd on St Davids Day(sorry if spelt wrong- my Somerset is immaculate!) saying they have to wear traditional dress. Now, even the post office has filled with girls costumes (hadn't cottoned on it was for St Davids- doh!) I have boys though, what do they wear???

Pixiefish, which subject does your head of department teach? (Just want to know what subject IG was good at ). I bet he was a lovely pupil - he comes across as a lovely, genuine man.

Tamum - Cyfarthfa Castle - now that takes me back, as I'm from the Merthyr Valley. My mother taught at Cyfarthfa School for a while. She heard a lovely story about two councillors discussing at a meeting whether they should have "gondoorlas" on the lake in Cyfarthfa Park. One said he thought it was an excellent idea, but that if they got two they might breed.

I remember Oldiemum- you're from the same town as my mother That's really funny about the lake! You don't remember the kitchen do you (she said hopefully)?

Huasfrau, my great aunt and uncle lived in Abercynon, and my aunt lives there now. Some of us on this thread must be related, surely!

I appreciated your apology, hockeymum. Thanks for that and for explaining a bit more about what was meant by your first post.

I'm another valley girl, but I've lost a lot of my accent. We were in a swimming baths cubicle down in the NEATH valley one day and dd said "Mum, why do they all talk so funny down here?" "SHUSH!" I said, "or we'll be lynched!"

I used to say "by'ere" "byddere" (by there) "mon" "but" "will now" "don't give it to me now, give it to me again" "under the doctor" and all that. I love mb's post about teaching complex biol vocab with a Welsh accent. Good on you! I can just imagine some of them going to Uni and doing a double take when some words are pronounced very differently to the way they were taught them!

So I am not the only one who has problems with: here, hear, year, ear then? Fine when sober but just one glass of wine and ...

"Every day, when I wake up, I thank the Lord I'm Welsh"

Lonelymum- Cymraeg he was good at. She used to say that him and his year in the sixth form were a class example of how the sixth form should be

"Every day, when I wake up, I thank the Lord I'm Welsh"

Ivorthengine - a good friend of mine, also Welsh (but without a strong accent) and now living in SE England, had an epiphanal moment a few years ago. She was back in her hometown and took her little girl to play in the local park. There were some other children there, chatting away in, naturally, the local accent. My friend's DD turned to her and whispered: "Are they speaking French?"

A cousin of mine married a Breton. He is retired now, but was a university lecturer in English. The other staff used to joke that they could recognise his students by their Welsh accents - "nationalisatshun; televishun etc."

Tamum - I don't remember the kitchen, but must have seen it on school visits. I came from the bottom end of the Valley (near Abercynon, in fact, Hausfrau), so we didn't do the sights of Merthyr very often. We tended to go to Cardiff and the wonderful National Museum there. They had a working display of a coal mine and I used to love pushing the buttons to make the machinery work. I was most disappointed to be told that the display had been taken away a long time ago, when I visited the museum with DH recently.

I totaly silenced a nice but chatty class by shouting, 'Come on Mun, stoap chopsing' (must be done in Rhondda accent IYSWIM). They were silent because they didn't have a clue what I was saying

I'd forgotten 'choapsin' - one of my best friends in Cardiff was from Swansea - cowin' 'ell, he used to say, and daps for pumps, and cowin' lush...oh I'm sure there are loads more I've forgotten.

twti down in the gwlli with your daps on

Crouch down in the back lane with your trainers on

No "trainers" in this house. DD (3) will have to choose between "Daps" (my word) and "sand shoes" (DH's Ozzie word). Which will she go for? She already knows "twtty down" and "cwch". DH thinks "cwch" is a wonderful word and uses it all the time.

There is also a wonderful genre of Wenglishisms, particularly "Up my cousin's, over my aunty's and down my gran's".

"Bad in bed and under the doctor".

cwtch is a fab word. Cuddle doesn't come close IMHO

Neither is there an English word that expresses the true meaning of 'hiraeth'

This was discussed on radio 4 not that long ago. Apparently there is a similar word in portugese, that the spanish didn't have so they have 'adopted' it

Dh says (and apologies - I can't spell it) ych-a-fi - very useful word.

very expressive soren! and hiraeth is exactly how i would say Laugharne for me

could I be an honery welsh person? we live in pembrokeshire and i've become v adept to the pembrokeshire promise!

ooh and love welsh cakes! mega craving for them ealy in this PG - (so if any one has a recipe! [wink} lol.)

and can u get pembertons choccy in the UK does any one know?

must say as well, the welsh folk around here are fab (althou u do have to be a 10th generation decendant to be considered a local! lol but all in all the ppl are v laid back and it suits be brilliantly.) the company I jsut left does customer sales and the other girl in the office is from the valleys (ammanford), she took a customer call and at the end of the converstaion he turned around to her and said 'well I must say your english is very good ' I was appalled when she told me the first thing I said was cheeky git u should have said that cos I'm welsh and speak english fool! lol. I wanted to 'loose' his order but she wouldn't let me! lol.

must admit thou we did have a lady from north wales ring up - I couldn't understand her it was like another language, and my colleuge struggled as well, she was v broad. it's the pronuciation I find had - it's taken me 2 years to pronounce llanelli right! lol !