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So... do the Welsh not share, or the English not like em???

321 replies

Flamesparrow · 14/02/2006 10:00

Welsh DH, living in Bournemouth... Every few months I might come across a supermarket selling Welsh butter - but they pretty much all sell Irish and Somerset. You can't buy Welsh cakes anywhere here, yet you can get all kind of American style cakey things. Its not like you need a little cake shop to get em in Wales - Tescos sell em, so surely they could ship a few through the rest of the UK???

Its sad, we haven't got much money right now, so his valentine's present was butter .

Soooo... why is it?? Are the Welsh just very possesive over their butter and cakes, or do shops think there is no market for it in non-Wales???

OP posts:
OldieMum · 14/02/2006 15:36

"Prize for Best Welsh Cakes in Show". You couldn't make it up, could you?

Pixiefish · 14/02/2006 15:37

hockeymum- i find your comments offensive and distateful. I live in Wales and am Welsh. I expect the Welsh to come before the English on signs in the same way that the English expect English to come before any other language in England.

I buy Welsh milk because I want to support the Welsh economy.

Wales is NOT a predominantly English country- it's Welsh

OldieMum · 14/02/2006 15:41

Pixiefish - I agree with your sentiments. But I also think it takes 800 years of colonial history and the denigration of one's culture and language over centuries to understand why people feel like this. People without this historical experience have trouble 'getting' why it's such a sensitive issue.

Pixiefish · 14/02/2006 15:44

it still makes me so angry oldiemum.

have been very restrained today as i don't feel restrained. those comments have made my blood boil

OldieMum · 14/02/2006 15:46

Oh well. Twlch dyn i bob saeson, pixiefish.

Pixiefish · 14/02/2006 15:47

Twll tin- oldiemum- or was that a typo?

LOL

At least you've made me smile a bit

Blandmum · 14/02/2006 15:48

now, now!

MrsBadger · 14/02/2006 15:49

hockeymum!
Imagine the Paris office of a US company refusing to read letters written in French!

One of DH's old neighbours sent us four dozen welshcakes as a wedding present - we ate some, froze the rest and took them out a few at a time to make them last .

(not born Welsh but it's creeping up on me)

Pixiefish · 14/02/2006 15:51

martianbishop- i was only correcting oldiemum

i've said much worse here but am going to keep it off a public forum.

Keep moondog away- she doesn't have as much restraint as me

IvortheEngine · 14/02/2006 15:51

I'm with you all the way, Pixiefish.

zippitippitoes · 14/02/2006 15:54

at not reading Welsh letters and the other comments

no wonder complaints are made if that is the ethos of the store

Pixiefish · 14/02/2006 15:55

btw- 'We are a predominantly English speaking country live with it! '

is the part that's really got my goat.

may be an idea to send a copy of this thread to Morrisons though to show them what they think of their customers in some branches

Blu · 14/02/2006 15:56

"But I also think it takes 800 years of colonial history and the denigration of one's culture and language over centuries to understand why people feel like this. People without this historical experience have trouble 'getting' why it's such a sensitive issue."

Now there's a thought that would have served us well over some big issues in the last few weeks.

IvortheEngine · 14/02/2006 15:57

You're right, Pixiefish.

Pixiefish · 14/02/2006 15:59

Sorry to Flamesparrow that this thread has taken a diversion btw but hockeymum's comments really got my goat.

Regarding your OP i spose its regional- if there's no call for stuff the supermarkets won't stock it.

zippitippitoes · 14/02/2006 16:01

still having a failure to grasp the idea that we should accept that the Welsh come to second to the English in their own country

longwaytogo · 14/02/2006 16:11

Speaking predomenantly English may be so in some places but if you come up by me you will hear the welsh language being spoken quite frequently. Can't believe letters would be binned just because no one can read/ write Welsh have you never heard of a fax machine wouldn't take a lot surely to send it to one of your stores in the North or West to translate would it? Sorry my blood is boiling too and I can't even speak welsh but it is our heritage and it's a shame more people don't speak the language. DD goes to a welsh school though as will other two come Sept.

And for welsh cakes have never thought of buying them have always made them.

Another one you can't get is Lava bread. Try going into a store and asking for some they generally send you to the breas isle - uninformed or what!

Sallystrawberry · 14/02/2006 16:11

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Pixiefish · 14/02/2006 16:15

longwaytogo- you up north then? or more mid Wales if you have lava bread?

My first language is Welsh- it's all I speak with most people (I've married a sais though so am not racist or anti- English)

I have a degree in Welsh (and no it's not a minority subject) and Welsh is very much a part of my everyday life.

Pixiefish · 14/02/2006 16:16

btw- i'm not snubbing you Sally- I know you live in the capital- that's why i didn't ask

Sallystrawberry · 14/02/2006 16:27

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zippitippitoes · 14/02/2006 16:33

my Mum always regretted that in her school in Cardiff Welsh was forbidden and disciplined and she never learnt it, thank goodness things are different now

Blandmum · 14/02/2006 16:40

My mother was a fluent welsh speaker, but dad, although also welsh, couldn't so we were all brought up speaking english.

My fathers parents were both beaten in school for using welsh in the playground.

I regret not learning it. I'm crap at all languages. We almost moved to Anglesea once, and , had we gone, I would have made the effored and learned....when in Rome, and all that

JonesTheSteam · 14/02/2006 16:47

hockeymum - "ffs its Cardiff, virtually no-one speaks Welsh".

Cardiff has a very large, thriving Welsh-speaking community! And I am totally stunned at your comments about Welsh letters being put in the bin!!

Blandmum · 14/02/2006 16:49

Interestingly my cousin heads up a team of Welsh speakers in the British Gas call centre in Cardiff. they are specificaly employed to deal with Welsh speaking customers. She learned her Welsh in school....more gifted than I was