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Fifteen minutes sex v six Hours Zumba Argument

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Tavaress · 11/12/2024 17:16

Me and my wife have always had different sex drives and have known each over and been married forty years. I could have sex every day while if my wife didn't have sex ever again I really don't think she would be too bothered. She has told me quite a few times that she is a self confessed prude and for the past twenty years we have had sex in one position with little involvement from my wife apart from kissing about once a week.
We both still have good lean bodies in our sixties and my wife goes to Zumba three times a week and is out for three hours each time all told with a break, chat, going for coffee and exercise after one Zumba session.

We were talking this afternoon and my wife said in so many words " I'm too old for sex now, I'm too tired.

I said " This is going to be an egg shell moment but how can you not be loving and have sex with me for fifteen minutes a week but be out three times a week for nine hours with at least six hours dancing and exercise with coach trips to markets, visits to shows and Christmas parties.

I don't go out and spend all my time in the garden and love being retired. We have had a big argument and she says it's not the first time she has said she doesn't really want sex anymore and she says she's not going to Zumba anymore and sex is now also finished and I have stopped her doing something she really loves.

I never asked her to stop going to Zumba which she is saying I have and apart from her times dancing we live in each others pockets.

Is it unreasonable what I have said and compared, I have compromised for twenty years with the one position sex and I really understand we are all different but I couldn't keep quiet under the circumstances and now we are not talking.
My wife can carry this on for hours and even days if I let it with me making it up every time soon after.

Let you know how we get on..

OP posts:
HermioneWeasley · 11/12/2024 17:27

She’s doesn’t want to have sex. She’s made that very clear and it obviously isn’t about fitness and energy.

frankly it’s a bit distasteful that you’ve been having sex with someone who clearly doesn’t want it, I can’t imagine having sex with someone who is not an enthusiastic participant.

anyway, she’s been clear that sex is over so now it’s over to you - do you want to divorce? Is she happy for you to have an affair - are you happy with that?

StrawberryWater · 11/12/2024 17:27

How the hell have you stayed married for so long with such incompatible views when it comes to sex?

40 years and you're still arguing about set? Yikes. Make a decision. Live with the fact she no longer wants sex or leave (or ask for an open marriage but don't bet on that getting a positive thumbs up though!).

Also the fact that neither of you can talk about this maturely is a red flag on both your parts. You both sound really petulant.

username299 · 11/12/2024 17:28

I don't understand what you meant, as least I hope I don't.

You think your wife should spend 15 minutes having sex she doesn't want because she does other things?

It sounds like your wife hasn't enjoyed sex for years. From your description, it has been joyless and perfunctory for twenty years.

She's obviously been doing it to please you and no longer wants to. When someone tells you they don't want to have sex you don't try and bully them into it.

You accept their decision and then think about how you want to move forward.

ExtraOnions · 11/12/2024 17:31

No bigger turn off than someone who pesters for sex

Chroomy · 11/12/2024 17:33

The reason she doesn't want to have sex isn't because she's too tired or she's too old physically, it's that she's not a sexual person and has spent years having unwanted sex with you, to placate you and at 60 she's had enough

You are not wrong to want sex.

She is not wrong to not want sex.

You're sexually incompatible

She's made it clear she's done with that so the question is can tou live with that or are you leaving? Because she shouldn't be coerced into it.

Firawla · 11/12/2024 17:34

How is the Zumba even related?? It’s a separate issue you can’t connect that - very weird outlook.
The miss matched drives is a problem yes, but she doesn’t owe you because she went to Zumba

PeloMom · 11/12/2024 17:36

One brings her joy (Zumba) the other (sex) doesn’t . What’s so difficult to understand?

MammmaG · 11/12/2024 17:38

So if she wants to go to Zumba she has to shag you for 15 minutes? Telling someone to “be loving” is also gross.

Sod the silent treatment, I’d be seeing a solicitor.

anothermnuser123 · 11/12/2024 17:40

I would love to know how you view it as you compromising for 20 years when you know she doesnt want sex, yet has done it anyway. Im sorry but how do you enjoy sex knowing the other person doesnt want it, feels so off to me.

She has made it clear she doesn't want to have sex, you now have the ability to decide if this is relationship ending, what you dont get to do is badger her and equate things she loves to something she clearly doesnt like and sounds like she has tolerated for far longer than she should have. No one should have sex they dont want.

I do wonder if you have taken any steps over the past 20 years to figuring why she doesnt enjoy sex, maybe its a her issue but maybe its just not enjoyable for her.

FYI there are both sex and relationship boards, both of which were likely more suitable for this post.

Nc546888 · 11/12/2024 17:42

I think you’re connecting the Zumba and sex as things that are energetic. So if she has the energy for Zumba she should have the energy for sex in your eyes.

i think the only one position thing is sad.

i wonder if there’s a middle ground here - an open marriage or sex counsellor or take sex off the table for X months and see if you want to date and kiss and if she doesn’t then she’s not coming back to you in a sexual way and you are at a crossroads of how you feel

Talipesmum · 11/12/2024 17:42

You’re right, it’s not really that she’s too tired - that is likely a white lie as it’s easier to say to you than “I don’t want to have sex with you”. I think you know it’s the latter - do you really want to make her come out and say it?

It’s crap for you if you want sex with her, but this is what she feels, you’ve known for ages I think that she isn’t bothered about having sex (this means she doesn’t much want to, not that she is as happy to have it as not). She’s allowed to feel that way, crap as it is for you. Don’t try to logic guilt her into it.

VodkaCola · 11/12/2024 17:49

Guilt tripping her. Not nice.

vodkaredbullgirl · 11/12/2024 17:52

Think I would rather do Zumba than have sex.

JazzyJelly · 11/12/2024 17:53

What a disgusting attitude. No wonder your wife doesn't want to shag you.

Fleurdalys · 11/12/2024 17:55

God I bloody hate both

teaandtoastwithmarmite · 11/12/2024 17:56

Think you’re getting a hard time here. Obviously you shouldn’t pester her for sex but it’s understandable you feel a bit unloved and starved of affection and you’re comparing the Zumba because of the excuses of being tired. If she doesn’t want sex you will have to break up or deal or open up the marriage but neither of you are unreasonable

Mnetcurious · 11/12/2024 17:58

Having the physical energy for Zumba and not having the mental energy for sex (in her case) are completely unrelated things. Sounds like she’s just had enough of doing something she’s never enjoyed. She’s not in the wrong but neither are you. I would suggest marriage counselling/therapy for you both to come to a suitable resolution to this problem.

Snorlaxo · 11/12/2024 17:59

She’s not turning down sex because she’s tired from Zumba. She doesn’t want to have sex because she’s has no desire for it emotionally and mentally. She told you this a long time ago but has gone through the motions of doing it for your sake. By comparing the time that she spends at Zumba vs having sex, you have basically complained that she does too much Zumba in a round about way. Her decision to stop Zumba is so that you can’t use it as a stick to beat her with.

You aren’t unreasonable to want sex but your wife is clearly saying that she won’t do it for you any more. Your choice is to divorce and find someone sexually compatible or stay and accept her decision of no more sex.

Flughafenkoenigin · 11/12/2024 18:00

You have 'compromised for twenty years' by pressuring her into having sex she doesn't want. It's not the first time she has said she doesn't really want sex anymore, but you ignored her all the previous times.

Sounds more like bullying to me.

TheThreeStingrays · 11/12/2024 18:04

If a male partner was saying he no longer wanted to have sex with his wife, would everyone’s reactions be the same? I can imagine that OP might feel a bit rejected and I feel the Zumba vs sex was just meant to highlight the fact she does have energy and in-fact his wife should have said the truth as to why she doesn’t want to have sex so they can both move forward. I’d apologise for the way it came across OP and ask her what ways you might be able to reconnect together, or other ways you can be intimate without it being sexual? Hugging more for example….

SereneFish · 11/12/2024 18:06

but how can you not be loving and have sex with me

My vagina cringed shut reading that. Poor woman.

SwordToFlamethrower · 11/12/2024 18:07

Having sex with someone who doesn't want it is rape. Your wife is a rape victim and you're disgusting

Yellowbananasarebetterthangreen · 11/12/2024 18:10

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Nodlikeyouwerelistening · 11/12/2024 18:10

She’s just not that into you. Accept it. Either end the marriage and find someone sexually compatible or stay married and accept your reality. Stop badgering her for something she doesn’t want with you. Have some self respect for a start- who even wants someone who doesn’t want them?

Imbusytodaysorry · 11/12/2024 18:19

ExtraOnions · 11/12/2024 17:31

No bigger turn off than someone who pesters for sex

Pesters lol

why do women get married ?

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