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Year 7 Spring Term ....

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MaryAnnSingleton · 02/01/2009 21:52

our thread, part two - all ready for the new term !! ds goes back on Tuesday...

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bellavita · 25/02/2009 07:39

Theme parks magenta! He had to write about his own theme park and now he has to do a brochure on said park (scary actually as he has called one of the restaurants after my mn name ), it does not help that he hates doing any writing of any sort.

magentadreamer · 25/02/2009 07:56

Lol@resturant name! With a brochure he could have quite a bit of fun finding pictures of rides, descriptions of them etc DD had to write a short story on a school trip last term and she made one up about going to a theme park as she loves her theme parks - unfortunately!

MaryAnnSingleton · 25/02/2009 11:39

I'd eat at Bellavita !!
ds is still being a bit generous with his (my) money !!

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LadyGlencoraPalliser · 25/02/2009 12:33

The theme park homework sounds fun, Bellavita. DD would love to do that. I hope she is having a nice time on her trip today - she was rejoicing because the group of boys she doesn't like are not on it. Apparently one of them passed her and her friend in the corridor recently and shouted 'horny little sluts' at them and ran off He also sat near her in the canteen yesterday and was making unpleasant comments about her(she couldn't remember/wouldn't say exactly what) until her friends turned up. I told her it was sexual harrassment and she could complain, but she doesn't want to. There seems to be an awful lot of this kind of think directed at girls and yet according to DD the topic of sexual bullying has never been raised with them. I am so angry and sad that this seems to be part of the cultural landscape now.

GrapefruitMoon · 25/02/2009 14:01

That's pretty shocking at such a young age LGP... could you have a word with her form teacher/head of year 7? Hope she enjoys her trip though.

I am totally clueless about the G&T thing - it is never mentioned by our primary school though I'm pretty sure they do extra stuff for G&T kids, they never mention it to the parents afaik. DD has been in a "stretch" English class this term but they seem to take turns doing it... her form teacher told me she scored extremely high in some assessments they did at the start of the year so I would assume she would be G&T at something but nothing has been said so far. (Of course she may be like me, above average at most things but not outstanding at anything )

MaryAnnSingleton · 25/02/2009 14:24

I must be very old fashioned, but am at yr 7s talking like that/knowing stuff like that

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LadyGlencoraPalliser · 25/02/2009 14:25

Thanks GrapefruitMoon. They sent us a letter at the end of last term saying that DD was on this register, but not what it actually involves - except that this trip today is for those who are apparently G&T at art.
WRT the nasty comments, I would like to have a word with the Head of Year but DD would not be happy with that and I don't want to stop her confiding in me for fear that worse will happen and I won't know about it.

bellavita · 25/02/2009 15:57

LGP - I too am shocked at those comments.

I am clueless as well re the G&T thing. The only G&T I know about is where you ask for ice and a slice to go with it .

MaryAnnSingleton · 25/02/2009 17:41

that's my kind of G&T too

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bellavita · 25/02/2009 17:51
LadyGlencoraPalliser · 25/02/2009 17:52

Thanks guys. I'm glad I am not the only one who is shocked by 11 year olds knowing that kind of language. I thought maybe I was sheltered having gone to a girls-only school myself.
As for the G&T thing, while it was nice for DD1 to be chosen for this trip, I don't see why everyone in her year group didn't have an equal opportunity to take advantage of it. DD is reasonably good at art and she works hard at it, but she is not be any stretch of the imagination 'talented' enough to require special provision.

MaryAnnSingleton · 25/02/2009 17:56

maybe the school has to have a G&T quota or something ? not that I know anything about these things !
Do join me bellavita - I have substituted raspberry jam for nutella today, not quite the same...

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roisin · 25/02/2009 18:11

LGP So many students change so much during yr7s - I see this at my school. They come in in September as eager-to-please 11 year-olds, and by Easter they're full-blown hormonal teenagers; interested only in impressing their peers, and swagger around with attitude and language to match.

At ds1's school many of the extra trips are open to all; if they are interested/motivated they have to get their forms in or turn up and join the club. I prefer this model generally to a setting where children are selecting and included/excluded according to someone's judgement.

At the school I work at the G&T list is a very hit and miss affair in terms of its accuracy and also its longterm validity.

LadyGlencoraPalliser · 25/02/2009 18:53

So Roisin, as you have the inside track on secondary schools as it were, can I ask how your school deals with this kind of sexual name calling? Is it perceived as an issue?

roisin · 25/02/2009 20:41

Any kind of bullying is abhorrent and anything that is reported at school is followed up by Head of House, and action taken.

Sexual bullying does tend to take a higher profile, but I'm not sure that's always justfied. Earlier this year in one of my classes a girl pinched a boy's bum. She was put in isolation for the day for that. Obviously it's not acceptable, but name-calling can be just as malicious and damaging, if not more so.

I wouldn't claim our school - or any - has found the magic solution though. It's always going to be a problem.

I think it is good though to bear in mind that a lot of name-calling at secondary school is 'silly' rather than 'nasty' and if the victims can regard it as such that is probably positive.

Unfortunately, in every school, there are some children who - for a variety of reasons - become victims of nasty bullying over a prolonged period and from a number of individuals. If this isn't nipped in the bud promptly and completely then it can continue in some forms for many many years, and can have an impact on the victim for life.

As parents I think the best things you can do to 'bully-proof' your child is to ensure their self-esteem is as high as possible. If they know that they are a good person, that you love them unconditionally, then it will be harder for any potential bullies to score and 'easy blow' and therefore persist and make their life miserable.

As professional staff obviously we have a duty to deal with all incidents of bullying that we witness or are informed of.

LadyGlencoraPalliser · 25/02/2009 20:55

DD has shrugged it off, she just thinks this boy is weird and tries to avoid him, but she doesn't think it is personal IYSWIM, as he doesn't even really know her - he is in another teaching group luckily.
It is in the back of both our minds however that good friends of ours moved away from our area two years ago because the daughter was being badly bullied by a group of boys at this school and the school dealt with it in a very ineffective way.

MaryAnnSingleton · 27/02/2009 18:17

LadyGlencora - was thinking about your dd today with regard to her G&T art status - I was asked into my ds's old primary to help them draw birds and plants for signs to be used on their wildlife trail and worked with 2 small groups of year 5 and 6 children - the art teacher said that they were the Gifted and Talented children and had been chosen for this special project - I think that the qualifying thing for this group was to be interested and have some talent for art - she had certainly chosen children who concentrated well and really wanted to do the work...it was great as they worked hard and produced some good drawings and I was able to introduce my ideas on presentation which was good for me to do too ! There were one or two who had more advanced skills but the rest just drew pretty well - the main thing was they stuck to it with enthusiasm !
The teacher told them that they were the G&T group which I don't think they'd realised and they were very chuffed

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LadyGlencoraPalliser · 27/02/2009 19:18

She really enjoyed the trip MAS and did some fab work - came home really enthused because one of the teachers had given her tips on how to get the effects she was looking for with her drawing.
It's just that she was sorry for two particular friends who would have benefited from the trip equally as much as she did and who were very sad to be left out.
How has your DS being doing this week?

roisin · 27/02/2009 19:34

My ds1 has not been spending his dinner money
He gets £20 per week - £8.70 is his bus pass, then c.£2.25 per lunch. He came home today with £8.55 change from the week! So he's only spent £2.75 in total all week .

He says some days he's been having soup which is 50p or 60p.

I haven't really got to the bottom of why he's not buying lunches: Both dh and I are on the case this weekend! He is rather chubby round his tummy and it may be he's deliberately eating less. It may be just that he wants to save up his cash. He does love his food though, and I'm surprised he's not starving hungry.

I've told him that in future the maximum he can transfer into his pocket money account each week is £3.

LadyGlencoraPalliser · 27/02/2009 19:37

He must be starving when he comes home, Roisin. Is the canteen a bit intimidating for him? In DD's school Y7 are let out for lunch earlier than the other years, otherwise they would be trampled. And DD often avoids the hot dinner queue as it is just too long. Maybe the whole process of getting lunch is a bit intimidating. Would he take a packed lunch? DD often does because she doesn't want to queue up.

roisin · 27/02/2009 19:50

I hate canteens and queues, and choosing your food, and carrying a tray and so on. I find it quite stressful. So I was ready for ds1 finding it a trial.

But he was remarkably unphased by it when he started in September and just got on with it.

I'm not really sure what's changed. But I'm digging: watch this space!

MaryAnnSingleton · 27/02/2009 22:49

aw roisin - hope he isn't getting in a pickle about food - but maybe he is just wanting to do other stuff at lunchtime,or that there's not enough time to have more than soup ? maybe he is saving his money ! hope he is ok though.
ds usually manages to get some lunch,but never pudding as there's no time - it's always a huge rush though.
LGP -glad dd had a good time- what a shame her friends were left out... as for ds, thanks for asking - he has had a good week - he has put it down to his new stripy boxer shorts - he was wearing the stripy ones on the days this week when he had some success in socialising and chatting- he asked if he could wear them every day -obviously not the same pair !
He was pleased to have them because all the other boys wear trunks like these rather than the slips that he's always had - boxers always seemed so voluminous ! Think he feels more grown up in them - I feel bad for not thinking of this before, but quite honestly hadn't given boys underwear too much thought !!

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LadyGlencoraPalliser · 27/02/2009 23:19

Gosh MAS, I suppose you wouldn't give boys underwear too much thought - I assumed they all still wore the slip-type pants.
With DD it was the bra issue - I had to buy her some even though she doesn't need them yet, so she wouldn't be embarrassed in the changing room.

MaryAnnSingleton · 27/02/2009 23:23

ah, yes,think it must be a similar thing to bras !

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magentadreamer · 27/02/2009 23:43

Hopefully you'll get in sorted out Roisin and it's down to wanting to save up and nothing else. DD gave up on school dinners and takes a pack lunch now. I give her £1 for crumpets and a drink per day.

DD wears crop tops I found some in La Senza which have a crop top type front but do up at the back like a bra so she was happy.

DD is a bit miffed as her Science teacher has been off sick since before half term and she wants to know what she got in her project and test. Hopefully the poor chap is okish and will be back soon as from what DD says he sounds very nice and makes even complicated stuff easy according to DD.