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Why white children are not getting into grammar schools

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deanstreet · 13/02/2026 15:23

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/02/11/why-white-children-are-not-getting-into-grammar-schools/?WT.mc_id=tmgoff_fb_photo_not-getting-into-grammar-schools

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Zimunya · 13/02/2026 15:24

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ThatGreatCritic · 13/02/2026 15:24

Why do they say they arent getting in? Not going to pay for it.

MayaPinion · 13/02/2026 15:24

🙄 Yes they are.

plentyofsunshine · 13/02/2026 15:25

That article is behind a paywall @deanstreet

BitOutOfPractice · 13/02/2026 15:26

God I loathe these sort of dumped link posts. Either fishing or laziness. Which is it op?

Signed, white parent of two white grammar school pupils.

pencilcaseandcabbage · 13/02/2026 15:27

The article says that some cultures value education more than others, and the big determining factor on who gets in is parental support and involvement.

Also too few places, so children bright enough to be there don't get in. I'll see if I can find a way to share

SomedayIllBeSaturdayNight · 13/02/2026 15:28

Has anyone read the article?? Is there answer to the question???

ShetlandishMum · 13/02/2026 15:28

Can't read it.

My white children got into grammar school but true a lot of their non white friends worked much harder than their white friends did which in the end of day = more non white kids than white in grammar school.

SomedayIllBeSaturdayNight · 13/02/2026 15:28

pencilcaseandcabbage · 13/02/2026 15:27

The article says that some cultures value education more than others, and the big determining factor on who gets in is parental support and involvement.

Also too few places, so children bright enough to be there don't get in. I'll see if I can find a way to share

Edited

So, fair enough then?

pencilcaseandcabbage · 13/02/2026 15:30

I hope this link will work...

www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/3abe765de8db5056

MidnightPatrol · 13/02/2026 15:33

There are some quite wild figures on this - some of the London grammars have 1 or 2 white children in each year.

The reality is… it’s because some communities really, really value education and push their children to achieve very highly and get into these schools. That’s why they are succeeding.

I don’t know what you can say or do beyond that really…!

Even when I was at my academically selective private school donkeys years ago, there were a v disproportionate number of non-white kids, often with parents in atypical careers where the wider family were all supporting the children to attend the school - because it was deemed important to get the right kind of education and so future job opportunities etc.

RichardOnslowRoper · 13/02/2026 15:33

pencilcaseandcabbage · 13/02/2026 15:27

The article says that some cultures value education more than others, and the big determining factor on who gets in is parental support and involvement.

Also too few places, so children bright enough to be there don't get in. I'll see if I can find a way to share

Edited

So the Indians and Chinese are working harder. And so are their parents.
Seems fair to me.

dizzydizzydizzy · 13/02/2026 15:34

I live near a couple of super-selective grammars and they mostly have ethnic minority kids. I guess it’s because immigrants in general are incredibly motivated to drive ahead and better themselves - they see academic success as the best path to a secure future. In a lot of Asian cultures, pushing children hard is the norm. There are not many white British tiger mums.

Also - grammar schools are mostly in very ethnically diverse areas like London, Slough, Manchester.

Snorlaxo · 13/02/2026 15:38

I live in a grammar area and the pupils are dominated by South Asians. They played by the rules and achieved the highest marks so deserve the places imo.

Tabletable · 13/02/2026 15:38

I know of children who have been to cramming courses every holiday, every weekend (both days) for two years before exams. They had the only non-Asian child there. This child was fairly average academically beforehand but got into grammar school which shows how much attitude affects outcome. Which is arguably more important at GCSEs anyway since many bright but lazy children can coast until then.

RichardOnslowRoper · 13/02/2026 15:38

Minorities have to work harder to be hired. Plenty of research on this. Especially in this climate. I say this as a S Asian tiger mum.

So they do.
Non-story.

dizzydizzydizzy · 13/02/2026 15:39

PS. DC1 (white British) failed the 11+, went to a comprehensive and came out of there with 4 x Astar at A-Level and a place on a masters course at a top uni and then graduated with a 1st.

The 11+ does not always work as a selection method!

RobinEllacotStrike · 13/02/2026 15:40

Kristina Murkett
Why white children are not getting into grammar schools
Families from other backgrounds are securing sought-after places amid intense competition

One grammar school took only one white British pupil in an intake of 104 children Credit: SolStock
To say that grammar schools are competitive would be a gross understatement: with more than 30 candidates for each place at some schools, getting a place for your child now requires military-style levels of strategy and ruthlessness.
There are stories of children as young as six being privately tutored for the 11+ exams, and families applying for schools hundreds of miles away (some as far away as China). The average house price in Beaconsfield, Buckinghamshire, which is in the catchment area of several outstanding grammar schools, now exceeds £1.1m.

Grammar schools are no longer just about serving local talent; they are a national and increasingly international race for an elite educational opportunity. One that is, crucially, free.
Given that a private secondary education now costs on average £150,000, it is unsurprising that parents are planning and paying years in advance to ensure their child can go to an academically selective school.
A consequence of the exclusivity of grammar schools aside from premium postcodes and pushy parents with pointy elbows is that they take very few white working-class pupils (or white pupils at all).
For example, one school in north London, which had nearly 3,000 applicants for its 104 places, took only one white British child in 2024-2025. A nearby school has only two white British pupils in a year group of almost 200.
This has been the case for quite some time. A 2016 report by The Sutton Trust found that disadvantaged Indian pupils were four times more likely than disadvantaged white British pupils to attend a grammar school. Disadvantaged Chinese pupils were 15 times more likely to do so.
Some cultures value education more than others
Many have been quick to blame the under-representation of white children in grammar schools on anti-white discrimination, but the idea that entrance is awarded on the basis of some sort of ethnic favouritism is nonsense.
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Firstly, grammar schools are often located in quite demographically diverse areas. Secondly, students sit the same test regardless of background. For most schools, there is no pass threshold, so places are simply allocated in descending order of exam mark (although around two thirds of grammar schools have policies prioritising candidates from disadvantaged homes or on free school meals).
Lee Elliot Major, professor of social mobility at the University of Exeter, is right when he says it is “dangerous to compare ethnic groups as if they are like-for-like ... and these differences could be white British pupils being more likely to come from lower-income households and to live in areas where education has not consistently translated into opportunity”.
However, here’s the quiet part said out loud: the ethnic make-up of grammar schools is a reflection of the academic aspirations of different parents, and the fact that some cultures value education and the importance of exam results more than others.
As I have written previously, education is not a zero-sum game, and white working-class students underachieve in spite of others’ progress, not because of it.
There are too many bright pupils for too few places
If we want to help white working-class pupils, we need to stop blaming hard-working students from other backgrounds, and realise that parental support, engagement and ambition are the distinguishing factors here, not some DEI conspiracy.
To put it simply, white working-class students cannot go to grammar school unless their parents live in the right areas; put them forward for the test, and – with the help of schools – give them appropriate support and encouragement.
As a country, we also need more grammar schools in the first place. There are far too many bright pupils for too few places, all of which are concentrated in a few counties (where I live, in Oxfordshire, there is not a single grammar school).
Grammar schools are oversubscribed because parents are disillusioned with the other, increasingly restricted, choices on offer, caused by successive governments substituting excellence for mediocrity by automatically assuming that “selection by ability is bad”. Yet, in an astonishing rags-to-riches success story, London Academy of Excellence received 60 Oxbridge offers this year.
Finally, we need to acknowledge that certain groups seemingly monopolise grammar schools because parental aspiration is not equal, and grammar school places are not equitable. Our knee-jerk reaction might be to blame these schools’ admissions policies or insist that these schools take more white British children, but we need to encourage ambition, not penalise it.
Kristina Murkett is an English teacher and freelance writer

Class differences: Ethnicity and disadvantage - The Sutton Trust

This research brief highlights how the academic attainment of disadvantaged pupils at 16 varies dramatically between different ethnic groups.

https://www.suttontrust.com/our-research/class-differences-ethnicity-and-disadvantage/

RobinEllacotStrike · 13/02/2026 15:41

^ seems much ado about nothing to me - space filling outrage article

skippy67 · 13/02/2026 15:41

SomedayIllBeSaturdayNight · 13/02/2026 15:28

So, fair enough then?

Yes, but the OP probably only read the headline, posted it here. then went charging off to polish
her pitchfork...

pencilcaseandcabbage · 13/02/2026 15:42

I'm in a grammar school area. My (white) kids all got in. The school was ethnically diverse with a good mix from many backgrounds, but nothing like the article mentions. I do recognise that some of my kids friends had much more strict parents than me, e.g. all clubs/activities stopped in the months before any exams whereas mine carried on if they wanted to, even during A levels. I suppose that made me lax!

My response to the article is 'fair enough'. It's hardly surprising that kids with parents who support their education do better.

deanstreet · 13/02/2026 15:43

To say that grammar schools are competitive would be a gross understatement: with more than 30 candidates for each place at some schools, getting a place for your child now requires military-style levels of strategy and ruthlessness.
There are stories of children as young as six being privately tutored for the 11+ exams, and families applying for schools hundreds of miles away (some as far away as China). The average house price in Beaconsfield, Buckinghamshire, which is in the catchment area of several outstanding grammar schools, now exceeds £1.1m.

Grammar schools are no longer just about serving local talent; they are a national and increasingly international race for an elite educational opportunity. One that is, crucially, free.
Given that a private secondary education now costs on average £150,000, it is unsurprising that parents are planning and paying years in advance to ensure their child can go to an academically selective school.
A consequence of the exclusivity of grammar schools aside from premium postcodes and pushy parents with pointy elbows is that they take very few white working-class pupils (or white pupils at all).
For example, one school in north London, which had nearly 3,000 applicants for its 104 places, took only one white British child in 2024-2025. A nearby school has only two white British pupils in a year group of almost 200.
This has been the case for quite some time. A 2016 report by The Sutton Trust found that disadvantaged Indian pupils were four times more likely than disadvantaged white British pupils to attend a grammar school. Disadvantaged Chinese pupils were 15 times more likely to do so.

Some cultures value education more than others
Many have been quick to blame the under-representation of white children in grammar schools on anti-white discrimination, but the idea that entrance is awarded on the basis of some sort of ethnic favouritism is nonsense.

Firstly, grammar schools are often located in quite demographically diverse areas. Secondly, students sit the same test regardless of background. For most schools, there is no pass threshold, so places are simply allocated in descending order of exam mark (although around two thirds of grammar schools have policies prioritising candidates from disadvantaged homes or on free school meals).
Lee Elliot Major, professor of social mobility at the University of Exeter, is right when he says it is “dangerous to compare ethnic groups as if they are like-for-like ... and these differences could be white British pupils being more likely to come from lower-income households and to live in areas where education has not consistently translated into opportunity”.
However, here’s the quiet part said out loud: the ethnic make-up of grammar schools is a reflection of the academic aspirations of different parents, and the fact that some cultures value education and the importance of exam results more than others.

As I have written previously, education is not a zero-sum game, and white working-class students underachieve in spite of others’ progress, not because of it.

There are too many bright pupils for too few places
If we want to help white working-class pupils, we need to stop blaming hard-working students from other backgrounds, and realise that parental support, engagement and ambition are the distinguishing factors here, not some DEI conspiracy.
To put it simply, white working-class students cannot go to grammar school unless their parents live in the right areas; put them forward for the test, and – with the help of schools – give them appropriate support and encouragement.
As a country, we also need more grammar schools in the first place. There are far too many bright pupils for too few places, all of which are concentrated in a few counties (where I live, in Oxfordshire, there is not a single grammar school).

Grammar schools are oversubscribed because parents are disillusioned with the other, increasingly restricted, choices on offer, caused by successive governments substituting excellence for mediocrity by automatically assuming that “selection by ability is bad”. Yet, in an astonishing rags-to-riches success story, London Academy of Excellence received 60 Oxbridge offers this year.

Finally, we need to acknowledge that certain groups seemingly monopolise grammar schools because parental aspiration is not equal, and grammar school places are not equitable. Our knee-jerk reaction might be to blame these schools’ admissions policies or insist that these schools take more white British children, but we need to encourage ambition, not penalise it.

White British pupils falter in race for a grammar school place

Labour has been accused of leaving poorer pupils behind as Times research reveals applications from as far afield as China

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/education/article/white-british-pupils-grammar-schools-qvt3hkjln

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Arlanymor · 13/02/2026 15:43

BitOutOfPractice · 13/02/2026 15:26

God I loathe these sort of dumped link posts. Either fishing or laziness. Which is it op?

Signed, white parent of two white grammar school pupils.

I think the former and they only come back when they know what the majority response is... otherwise why not just express your opinion at the start?

RichardOnslowRoper · 13/02/2026 15:44

RobinEllacotStrike · 13/02/2026 15:41

^ seems much ado about nothing to me - space filling outrage article

Actually the article is fine, but the headline will have readers outraging.
We do need more grammars.

ghostyslovesheets · 13/02/2026 15:44

Selective education has been ‘fair’ and rewarding hard working pupils’ for years - or ‘sorting the wheat from the chaff’ as one delightful person explained to me.

Now it’s unfair and wrong because white kids don’t get in

pick a lane!