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Withdraw child from religious studies

178 replies

Parentofachild · 05/10/2025 12:39

Hi!
I would like to find out about child withdrawal from religious studies in church school because I am not happy with the content they are teaching? Can you advice me if someone experienced it and are there any consequences? Thanks

OP posts:
JulietKa · 09/11/2025 21:21

LIZS · 09/11/2025 08:16

Timetables are fixed and it is very unlikely you will be offered an alternative subject in those missed lessons. Some RE is compulsory in secondaries but it is not necessarily a religious lesson, as in Bible Studies, but ethical discussions, comparative outlooks and celebrations. There is a difference between withdrawing from colllective worship and RS lessons Perhaps investigate the curriculum before asking. If your dc is already in a uk primary they will be partocipating in similar.

I don't require them but a child can sit silently in the library i don't know.

JulietKa · 09/11/2025 21:25

mnahmnah · 09/11/2025 18:53

Unfortunately you don’t get to decide the curriculum your child follows! By class 7, do you mean year 7? That and ‘math’ leads me to think you are not British? Secondary RE is very different to primary and any misconceptions you have about it should be researched. Previous posters have said it all well.

Yes, not british. Year 7 , you are right. I will read again, i don't understand sometimes what is meant. But thank you everyone for sharing. What about home schooling? My child would be happy and me too. I knew some people they were yehova witnesses and their children studied at home. Maybe we should try but not sure how to make it.

StrongLikeMamma · 09/11/2025 21:27

Why send them to a religious school if you don’t want them to learn about religion?!

stichguru · 09/11/2025 21:45

You can withdraw them from RE. Of course if they are doing it for GCSE, they would then have to drop the subject entirely. Even in a church school though they should be looking at RE in terms of learning about what different religions believe, not convincing your child to believe one religion. I question why you don't want your child to learn about what different groups of people believe as this seems fairly fundamental to living in the multicultural society we find ourselves in today. If the school push a religion more forcefully, you may find you need to move schools, because a church school will do things like have collective acts of worship. Obviously they shouldn't be bullying non-religous children, but being able to thread a relisgous element through the teaching is kind of the point of a church school.

mnahmnah · 09/11/2025 21:53

JulietKa · 09/11/2025 21:25

Yes, not british. Year 7 , you are right. I will read again, i don't understand sometimes what is meant. But thank you everyone for sharing. What about home schooling? My child would be happy and me too. I knew some people they were yehova witnesses and their children studied at home. Maybe we should try but not sure how to make it.

This is a good explanation from the national association for RE

natre.org.uk/about-re/

Willsmer · 10/11/2025 07:38

So you sent your child to a Church school and yet not happy with the fact they teach religion in RE? Why ?

LIZS · 10/11/2025 08:51

JulietKa · 09/11/2025 21:25

Yes, not british. Year 7 , you are right. I will read again, i don't understand sometimes what is meant. But thank you everyone for sharing. What about home schooling? My child would be happy and me too. I knew some people they were yehova witnesses and their children studied at home. Maybe we should try but not sure how to make it.

It seems an extreme reaction to home school to avoid rs. Especially as you have moved from a different cultural background but presumably intend for you and dc to live in UK, which is a multicultural society, long term. Did you ask questions of the secondary schools you presumably have applied to for year 7?

ChubbyPuffling · 10/11/2025 09:09

I was the child kept out of RE lessons- my parents were strong Catholics and the schools, both primary and secondary, had a strong Protestant bias (I was on a Scottish island, there were no other faiths represented by pupils there in the 70s).

It was just another "difference" stick to be beaten with to be honest.
I hated my parents for it. (Especially when they got divorced!)

trynagenn · 10/11/2025 13:40

Willsmer · 10/11/2025 07:38

So you sent your child to a Church school and yet not happy with the fact they teach religion in RE? Why ?

Are you asking this question to the OP? If so, they have already answered it.

The thread has now moved on because a different poster, JukietKa, has piggy-backed. She hasn't said what type of school her child is going to.

JulietKa · 11/11/2025 00:00

LIZS · 10/11/2025 08:51

It seems an extreme reaction to home school to avoid rs. Especially as you have moved from a different cultural background but presumably intend for you and dc to live in UK, which is a multicultural society, long term. Did you ask questions of the secondary schools you presumably have applied to for year 7?

I was not aware about schools subjects. In my country parents have choice. Here looks like you have a choice but in fact no choice. I understand that it is multicultural. But i don't see the line between those two.
It is not extreme reaction it is just my choice. It is a free country which "gives" you a choice to withdraw your child as it is mention on gov uk. Am i wrong?

JulietKa · 11/11/2025 00:01

I was not aware about schools subjects. In my country parents have choice. Here looks like you have a choice but in fact no choice. I understand that it is multicultural. But i don't see the line between those two.
It is not extreme reaction it is just my choice. It is a free country which "gives" you a choice to withdraw your child as it is mention on gov uk. Am i wrong?

JulietKa · 11/11/2025 00:02

StrongLikeMamma · 09/11/2025 21:27

Why send them to a religious school if you don’t want them to learn about religion?!

It is not a religious school at all. That is why for me totally unclear .

JulietKa · 11/11/2025 00:07

stichguru · 09/11/2025 21:45

You can withdraw them from RE. Of course if they are doing it for GCSE, they would then have to drop the subject entirely. Even in a church school though they should be looking at RE in terms of learning about what different religions believe, not convincing your child to believe one religion. I question why you don't want your child to learn about what different groups of people believe as this seems fairly fundamental to living in the multicultural society we find ourselves in today. If the school push a religion more forcefully, you may find you need to move schools, because a church school will do things like have collective acts of worship. Obviously they shouldn't be bullying non-religous children, but being able to thread a relisgous element through the teaching is kind of the point of a church school.

I don't see where my child will be using it in her future. We respect people no matter what religion they are.
Why do children need to study RE if in this world many wars. And besides this i don't know where we will be tomorrow or in a year as it is quite dangerous.
They would better teach kerate 😅🤷‍♀️ so children can protect themselves.

Maddy70 · 11/11/2025 03:27

I wonder if you would mind sharing your concerns? I'm an atheist but loved religious studies. It's really history and philosophy, super interesting and promotes understanding of other cultures as well as our own

trynagenn · 11/11/2025 06:12

JulietKa · 11/11/2025 00:07

I don't see where my child will be using it in her future. We respect people no matter what religion they are.
Why do children need to study RE if in this world many wars. And besides this i don't know where we will be tomorrow or in a year as it is quite dangerous.
They would better teach kerate 😅🤷‍♀️ so children can protect themselves.

@JulietKa if you share which local authority you are living in, I will find you a link to the local RE syllabus. You really do need to read it to understand more about the subject.

You are not being respectful if you refuse to let your children learn about other cultures' beliefs, you are being ignorant, and your children will be missing out on an opportunity to develop their critical thinking skills.

p.s. I am also an atheist.

JulietKa · 11/11/2025 06:58

trynagenn · 11/11/2025 06:12

@JulietKa if you share which local authority you are living in, I will find you a link to the local RE syllabus. You really do need to read it to understand more about the subject.

You are not being respectful if you refuse to let your children learn about other cultures' beliefs, you are being ignorant, and your children will be missing out on an opportunity to develop their critical thinking skills.

p.s. I am also an atheist.

Edited

Why in this country if you don't want something then you already ignorant and many other things.
I believe this is everyone's right.
How would you feel if someone offers you something "new" and you say i don't want and then they oh you are really ignorant you should try because you may like it. I see it like this.

stichguru · 11/11/2025 07:10

JulietKa · 11/11/2025 00:07

I don't see where my child will be using it in her future. We respect people no matter what religion they are.
Why do children need to study RE if in this world many wars. And besides this i don't know where we will be tomorrow or in a year as it is quite dangerous.
They would better teach kerate 😅🤷‍♀️ so children can protect themselves.

Because religion is one of the fundamental things that motivates large groups of people to act as they do. Prompts people to make the decisions they do. Prompts people to fight or not fight, or to react to others in a certain way. If people had a better understanding of religon, we'd likely have many less wars. If people actually understood that they might believe something a different, but most people actually hold similar values even if they see God differently or don't see God as all. At some point your child's understanding of religion will very possible feed in to her choice as to who to vote for, what stand to take in the case of unrest, how to be respectful of other people. It's not about her believing, it's about her understanding a major force in the world.

StrongLikeMamma · 11/11/2025 07:26

Maddy70 · 11/11/2025 03:27

I wonder if you would mind sharing your concerns? I'm an atheist but loved religious studies. It's really history and philosophy, super interesting and promotes understanding of other cultures as well as our own

Exactly this. It’s about tolerance and understanding. Of course it’s important!

trynagenn · 11/11/2025 07:41

JulietKa · 11/11/2025 06:58

Why in this country if you don't want something then you already ignorant and many other things.
I believe this is everyone's right.
How would you feel if someone offers you something "new" and you say i don't want and then they oh you are really ignorant you should try because you may like it. I see it like this.

Ignorant means lacking in knowledge, i.e. uninformed.

You are potentially denying your child the opportunity to participate in RE because you are lacking in knowledge of the syllabus, how it is taught, and its benefits.

pumpkinscake · 11/11/2025 07:54

YesJs · 05/10/2025 14:26

I’m a teacher and, yes, it depends on the size of the animal. A hamster = very small sin, a buffalo = much larger sin. You are right to withdraw if someone is telling your child having sex with a buffalo is a little, not a larger sin.

YABU to say same sex marriage is a sin

Brilliant answer, so helpful :-). I only wish they'd taught me properly in school.

trynagenn · 11/11/2025 08:01

pumpkinscake · 11/11/2025 07:54

Brilliant answer, so helpful :-). I only wish they'd taught me properly in school.

The problem with irony and sarcasm is that it doesn't translate well for people who have English as a second language, who are not used to British culture, and who are (wrongly) worried about what their children are being taught. So no, it wasn't helpful.

Tiswa · 11/11/2025 08:13

@JulietKa I suggest you look up the curriculum it is Philosophy based as well as religious so you learn facts about all the religions (which is very useful) and then discuss philosophical matters - DS did driverless cars last time and the implications of that.

it is part of the curriculum and one which will be taught and discussed even at GCSE year (DD grammar do a compulsory Half RS to cover it)

it is also a useful subject for learning how to structure and write essays, using sources and quotes to back up what your arguments are and how to write a balanced opinion utilising both sides. So intro arguments for arguments against conclusion

I would not write it off as being unnecessary academically

JulietKa · 11/11/2025 08:15

Forcing a child into a religious framework removes their choice. True understanding comes from personal exploration, not mandatory instruction. I want my child to have the freedom to choose what they believe, not have it assigned to them

pumpkinscake · 11/11/2025 08:18

trynagenn · 11/11/2025 08:01

The problem with irony and sarcasm is that it doesn't translate well for people who have English as a second language, who are not used to British culture, and who are (wrongly) worried about what their children are being taught. So no, it wasn't helpful.

Edited

Funnily enough, I didn't really mean it was helpful! It was funny though.

JulietKa · 11/11/2025 08:19

Maddy70 · 11/11/2025 03:27

I wonder if you would mind sharing your concerns? I'm an atheist but loved religious studies. It's really history and philosophy, super interesting and promotes understanding of other cultures as well as our own

I can't share because it is dangerous to have an opinion here. For me there are three rules don't steal. Don't kill. Treat people like you wanted to be treated.
I believe we have to stiludy something better. But this is my opinion. My child is asking to be withdrawn. And i am trying to do this. Tbh even ready to go to another country but this time will explore before going.