GCSE in year admission in Harrow

[SuratNuJaman]

For a kid starting their GCSE year, can he/she travel from Europe and join an English Government run school a month before GCSE exams. Does the Government/Council have a "duty of care" which requires them to place the kid in a school and get them to take thir GCSE exams?

Is there any cut off deadline that the kid must be in a school by say December, for them to take their GCSE exams?

Happy to read legislation myself. If someone here has Administrative experience in a Council with admissions, would love to hear from them. The council for the kid will be Harrow.

I don't think the OP cares about such niceties as funding. After all, they've paid their council tax, so they're entitled to whatever they want.

parents can come back to UK to apply surely

I was thinking more about the humanities subjects.

Thank you for the key information, "the date for funding is 2 October"

The funding is the funding the school receives. Which is different to the Council Tax element. Parents are prepared to pay to council the £3000 or a sum to take the exams through state system, I have mentioned this in before post. This would actually make profit for council.

Except the council won’t see it that way
There is no mechanism that I’m aware of to send parents a bill for education, nor to receive money in this way

The arrogance here is hilarious.

The kid will fly through exams they’ve not been prepared for without spending a single day in school.

The local authority will benefit from this scam.

The kid is so wonderful they’d definitely get into a niche role. The only thing holding them back is the need to do state GCSEs, and that pesky algorithm.

Poor kid.

@Harrumphhhhand let’s not forget this ‘kid’ might take a place from a child who actually needs/wants/deserves it. So you might be giving your kid an ‘advantage’ OP but screwing with someone else’s!

And I bet we’ll see OP in here in a few years moaning that their brilliant kid didn’t get on whatever scheme they want, and they can’t possibly understand why.

Not to mention this is a child not currently living in the UK. I am not remotely anti-immigration as a concept but do wonder about the morals of someone popping up just to take a place in what is presumably a UK scheme that offers a small number of valuable opportunities - much as I'd raise an eyebrow at someone heading over from the UK to France to exploit a loophole that let them do the same thing there.

So, basically @SuratNuJaman the answer is no you can't.

Parents pay U.K. tax (on U.K. income) and Council tax.

Parents will come asap and stay here till exams complete, thank you everyone at MumsNet for advice.

And? It's still taking what sounds like a valuable opportunity away from someone who has been educated here and is presumably quite invested in the country and community. The whole thing really does stink. Life's not fair, money talks, we get it.

Yes, it is.

The shit thing is that the UK is heading for a very unpleasant time because there is such limited opportunity, and not enough is being done to even things up. And we'll all suffer from that. Again, possibly not the very rich, who tend to come out on top. But the rest of us will feel it.

I feel bad for the kid, but can't help hoping Harrow LA/secondaries see straight through this scam and leave the parents to sort the exams privately as they should. For once I find myself wishing the papers picked up on a MN thread...

Without any details we're left to wonder but if the only way that this scheme is looking to discount privately educated kids is to automatically exclude anyone with iGCSE, it lacks rigour. Most schemes like this will be looking at where the child was educated at the start of year 10 as a basic criterion, and possibly other markers too.

It would depend on the Council having the stomach to get involved in Litigation. If they lose, paying their own over inflated legal costs and the parents legal costs will just cause loss for council tax payers.

And if the Council has duty of care to get the kid an education, I suppose they will need to get on and get them a place, whatever their Politics.

“Parents pay U.K. tax (on U.K. income) and Council tax.”

Is this a non dom kid? Are you serious? And you are an educational consultant? Trying to get free advice?
And the link with India and the Gujarati username?

Aw, sweet. I'm sure the child will get a place, at whichever school has room, but LAs are so snarled up with legal actions of various types that the GSCEs would probably have been and gone before it got anywhere near a court room if it did come down to that.

I asked a question, I got replies that I was looking for. I got 2 key dates which are useful to me and to other people in future.

And however unpleasant the situation sounds, unfortunately or fortunately, basic common sense will prevail.

Of the knowledge I possess, what should concern people of United Kingdom is the rise of "tech cleansing" where the algos have taken over, and when you hear nothing back, you have no idea why. It is this which needs repairing, but alas it is too late as tech, and now A.I. is creeping in.

You can direct your anger towards me, but you will do yourself a dis-service. If you wish to do greater good to society, you can start by making all recruitment, all enterance exam algos open source, all I can say is that the inequality is going to worsen, solely due to tech.

Agreed, no Local Authority has the time or money to waste on this matter.

You are not making any sense but for clarity

Harrow Council state that there has to be exceptional circumstances for a child to move schools in year 11.

Moving back from abroad could be seen as exceptional circumstances, however they only have a duty of care to provide an education, not to enter the child for GCSE exams. The education could be at an alternative provision centre for example

The algorithm or whatever it is I guarantee will not only be concerned at where a child sat their GCSE exams but also where they were educated from the age of 11.

The parents will need to prove residency (which is different to simply owning a property) BEFORE even applying for a place.

Local authorities are very used to parents threatening court. They have a whole legal department dedicated to such things (just talk to any parent of a child with SEN). They won't bat an eyelid.

Honestly, panicking now about algos in recruitment… top employers realise pretty quickly if the wrong graduates start coming through and then immediately adjust their processes. Trying to micromanage your child’s future based on paranoia is never a good move. The world changes quickly and adaptability is key. Covid taught us that. If there are dodgy algos now, they will be gone in a few years. No point worrying about it years in advance especially with all the political changes happening anyway.

It is also just funny to think that British councils are a bastion of efficiency.

If you do have a link to India, it is more like Indian Government offices here these days. A black hole where you simply wait your turn with no legal recourse and you sit it out, like everyone else, waiting for them to go through every step of red tape they may encounter. Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes the opposite, but predictable it is not!