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Year 11 - 2024/2025: And relax! Support Thread for the summer holidays.

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QueenMabby · 18/06/2025 06:29

New thread to carry us all through the summer as we transition from dealing with stressed teens to dealing with bored teens!

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TheLivelyViper · 09/08/2025 18:40

Yes true @QueenMabby I was just saying that sometimes people can get the scripts back for free as sometimes students just want to see what they wrote and have them and it's not really that much admin to send them over so they can see it. Obviously it's different if they wants teachers to look through (and if the grade is a big shock teachers will likely want to look through anyways) and request a review. Though in my case my school were happy to pay for my review and I didn't mind either, as they thought that it looked more than possible to get the 9.

TheLivelyViper · 09/08/2025 18:51

icanbewhatiwant · 09/08/2025 18:09

@TheLivelyViper thanks, it has a number further down the results sheet. Next to each subject, like a than a number. But next to my son’s grade there are no numbers. So I have no idea what they mean. So for example it says a next to a subject with 168 next to the a* this is further down the page after my sons grades, my son got an a in that subject. No other numbers on that line where his grade is. So I don’t understand it.

https://filestore.aqa.org.uk/admin/results-days/AQA-CSPR-EX-2022.PDF
That's from AQA a fake example of what it should look like, the first page I'd A-level (GCE) and the second GCSE. So maybe the 2nd page of that would help you. Not that it matters too much.

https://filestore.aqa.org.uk/admin/results-days/AQA-CSPR-EX-2022.PDF

icanbewhatiwant · 09/08/2025 18:57

@TheLivelyViperthanks. Ours doesn’t look like that. It was a while ago though. Ds1 is 24 now. Perhaps being longer ago makes a difference. He was A-C grades rather than 9-1

TheLivelyViper · 09/08/2025 19:04

icanbewhatiwant · 09/08/2025 18:57

@TheLivelyViperthanks. Ours doesn’t look like that. It was a while ago though. Ds1 is 24 now. Perhaps being longer ago makes a difference. He was A-C grades rather than 9-1

Yes it does change every so often and as your previous DC had A*-C grades it doesn't look the same as the 9-1 grade sheet anymore.

icanbewhatiwant · 09/08/2025 19:16

@TheLivelyViper ds1 had 9-1 for maths and English. A-C for everything else. The following year was all 9-1. Ds2 was the first Covid year so were teachers predicted grades, so obviously no grade boundaries expected.

frozendaisy · 09/08/2025 19:32

I think the last thing Ratty wants to see are his exam papers, unless absolutely necessary!

Especially as the one thing that seemed to get him through them English exams was my reassurances if it was love poetry no one you know will ever read this 😀

NotDonna · 09/08/2025 20:54

QueenMabby · 09/08/2025 18:34

I would recommend only requesting papers/reviews of marking if a grade is either way off what was expected or has a negative impact on your DC’s next steps. There has developed a really unfortunate culture of getting reviews of marking to try and squeeze extra marks to get a “better” grade but (imo) all it’s really saying to that child is - your grade could have been better let’s see if we can “fix” it and improve it.

If your dc was predicted an 8 and got a 5 then those papers are probably with seeing. Or if they needed a 5 in maths but got a 4 then definitely- request the scripts.

In 2022 ds got an 8 in biology. He was 1 mark off a 9. But he wasn’t taking it for A-level and didn’t need a 9 to progress to his 6th form
option so I didn’t say anything apart from how proud I was of his excellent grade. It’s already a stressful time for them. They mostly need to hear from us that we’re proud of them and their results are amazing.

Edited for all the typos!

Edited

Agreed. Although it was regarding A levels, the same sentiment applies. DD2 got an A in economics but was one mark from an A star & the teacher requested permission to order her script. At the time DD was on the phone to her first choice (who’d rejected her) to ask if she did a ‘review of marking’ and her paper did go up by one mark would the A star make a difference? They said no, the A star would not average out her B in another subject to an A and thus meet her grades required. So she told the teacher, thank you but it’s fine. And happily went to second choice. It wasn’t going to change anything so she didn’t see the point.

NotDonna · 09/08/2025 20:55

frozendaisy · 09/08/2025 19:32

I think the last thing Ratty wants to see are his exam papers, unless absolutely necessary!

Especially as the one thing that seemed to get him through them English exams was my reassurances if it was love poetry no one you know will ever read this 😀

They don’t actually see their papers. The teachers can and it’s them that suggest whether it’s worth a review of marking or not.

MrsHamlet · 09/08/2025 21:00

NotDonna · 09/08/2025 20:55

They don’t actually see their papers. The teachers can and it’s them that suggest whether it’s worth a review of marking or not.

The papers belong to the students. If staff get to see them, it's with the permission of the student who should also be sent a copy

NotDonna · 09/08/2025 21:05

icanbewhatiwant · 09/08/2025 19:16

@TheLivelyViper ds1 had 9-1 for maths and English. A-C for everything else. The following year was all 9-1. Ds2 was the first Covid year so were teachers predicted grades, so obviously no grade boundaries expected.

So weird as DD1 had 9-1 for everything bar English, which was A*-C I think their English exam board was late to the party.

NotDonna · 09/08/2025 21:08

MrsHamlet · 09/08/2025 21:00

The papers belong to the students. If staff get to see them, it's with the permission of the student who should also be sent a copy

Oh wow. I don’t recall DD1 being sent copies. The teachers read them and then said to send for review.

MrsHamlet · 09/08/2025 21:14

NotDonna · 09/08/2025 21:08

Oh wow. I don’t recall DD1 being sent copies. The teachers read them and then said to send for review.

They don't belong to us. We can't even see them without consent.

TheLivelyViper · 09/08/2025 21:17

NotDonna · 09/08/2025 20:55

They don’t actually see their papers. The teachers can and it’s them that suggest whether it’s worth a review of marking or not.

Yes they can, you can aks the school to send you the scripts/papers without wanting a review. Some students just want to see what they wrote etc even when they are happy with heir makes. If staff request to look through and see if the marks can go up, then most of the time they also send to students as well. Then they can request to the exam board for an actual review of the marks etc if the school think it's worth it.

Whoooo · 09/08/2025 21:21

We didn't get a copy of older dds paper when it was remarked...

NotDonna · 09/08/2025 21:28

TheLivelyViper · 09/08/2025 21:17

Yes they can, you can aks the school to send you the scripts/papers without wanting a review. Some students just want to see what they wrote etc even when they are happy with heir makes. If staff request to look through and see if the marks can go up, then most of the time they also send to students as well. Then they can request to the exam board for an actual review of the marks etc if the school think it's worth it.

That didn’t happen with DD1 review. The teachers contacted her and asked permission. DD1 signed something or did a form or whatever. The teacher received the script but no copy sent to DD - it was chemistry & it may be that she ticked a box or something saying that she didn’t need a copy. Surely if a student would rather not see the paper it’s not forced upon them? Like @frozendaisy is concerned with.
Do teens really request to see their papers for no reason?

TheLivelyViper · 09/08/2025 21:41

NotDonna · 09/08/2025 21:28

That didn’t happen with DD1 review. The teachers contacted her and asked permission. DD1 signed something or did a form or whatever. The teacher received the script but no copy sent to DD - it was chemistry & it may be that she ticked a box or something saying that she didn’t need a copy. Surely if a student would rather not see the paper it’s not forced upon them? Like @frozendaisy is concerned with.
Do teens really request to see their papers for no reason?

Well it's not for no reason, they wouldn't be getting teachers to look through the papers for them, just exam officers or other staff to send it to them as a pdf. They want to see exactly what they wrote and some just want to keep it in general. Yes if they don't want to see the papers it cannot be forced upon them. Mainly my point was when it is requested for an actual review or the paper by teachers before asking for a proper remark from exam board - they can have it sent to them and most of the time do, sometimes teachers just forget etc to send it to them or don't ask.

MrsHamlet · 09/08/2025 21:53

Teachers have nothing to do with sending scripts in my school - it's all dealt with by the exams office. We don't have access to that part of the system.

CatHairEveryWhereNow · 09/08/2025 21:56

We didn't get a copy of older dds paper when it was remarked...

We only found out weeks later DD2 she casually mentioned she had signed something to get GCSE - numeracy - she sat early in Nov re-marked or so she thought she was told.

She was one mark of an A* apparently (in Wales) . She was just approached in maths class - she still had two more maths qualifications to sit in May.

We weren't consulted or informed and I don't think she was warned marks can go down either or when she find out or anything else really. Nether she nor we were ever told anything more let along get sent her papers- so assume it went no where.

Sadly that level of poor communication was pretty standard for her school.

CatHairEveryWhereNow · 09/08/2025 22:06

We also don't get certificates till really late - so no idea what that says - assume it's the A grade she was told.

School insist on holding them even ones sat early ( my school day in day gave those out as soon as they got them - ) and then have set days/hours to pick up which they are very bad at informing ex students of.

With older two that happened in late January. If she was staying in sixth form they'd insit on holding them till all exams are finished with them ie for two more years- which seems really odd to DH and I as won't p/t jobs etc want to see them. The college literally puts them in the post - and they just turn up well before January.

MrsHamlet · 09/08/2025 22:08

Certificates aren't issued to schools until after all Enquiries after Results are completed, which is October some time. We give ours out at prize giving in December, or they have to collect them.

icanbewhatiwant · 09/08/2025 22:17

@NotDonnads1 took GCSEs 2017

Whoooo · 09/08/2025 22:22

CatHairEveryWhereNow · 09/08/2025 21:56

We didn't get a copy of older dds paper when it was remarked...

We only found out weeks later DD2 she casually mentioned she had signed something to get GCSE - numeracy - she sat early in Nov re-marked or so she thought she was told.

She was one mark of an A* apparently (in Wales) . She was just approached in maths class - she still had two more maths qualifications to sit in May.

We weren't consulted or informed and I don't think she was warned marks can go down either or when she find out or anything else really. Nether she nor we were ever told anything more let along get sent her papers- so assume it went no where.

Sadly that level of poor communication was pretty standard for her school.

Yeah.
We found out much later that another teacher wanted another subject papers remarked as she was 1/2 marks off a 9...they only did one in the end due to the cost. If they'd asked us we'd have happily paid! 🙄

CatHairEveryWhereNow · 09/08/2025 22:38

Certificates aren't issued to schools until after all Enquiries after Results are completed, which is October some time.

Think college one turn up Nov/December in past- no warning just turn up in post - so that makes sense.

No idea why the school hangs on to them till January - or hangs on to GCSE certificates till they finish A-levels and give them in one block.

DD2 already finished two GCSE -one last May and one in November - and think by now they should have those certifcates - but they insist on storing them till rest come in. It's just very different to how DH and I different schools and DH college did it and the poor comminication makes it worse as well.

CatHairEveryWhereNow · 09/08/2025 22:41

@Whoooo that's annoying.

NotDonna · 09/08/2025 22:48

TheLivelyViper · 09/08/2025 21:41

Well it's not for no reason, they wouldn't be getting teachers to look through the papers for them, just exam officers or other staff to send it to them as a pdf. They want to see exactly what they wrote and some just want to keep it in general. Yes if they don't want to see the papers it cannot be forced upon them. Mainly my point was when it is requested for an actual review or the paper by teachers before asking for a proper remark from exam board - they can have it sent to them and most of the time do, sometimes teachers just forget etc to send it to them or don't ask.

Edited

But my point was to FrozenDaisy that her son wouldn’t see his papers. Which surely any teen doesn’t have to if they don’t want to and they can still have it reviewed if the teacher thinks it’s worthwhile? That’s all I was really saying. For him not to be put off having a review.

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