Do teachers get paid for running revision sessions in the school holiday?

[rosemarble]

As the subject says.....just wondering.
Obviously I hope they do, but you hear so much about teachers working so much during school holidays that I wonder where the line is.

While I'm here, thanks to the teachers who are running them; DS2 really benefits.

The secondary school I’m at pays all staff who come in - we offer two days at the start of the holidays so that the teaching staff involved have proper time off afterwards.

State secondary where I started teacher training did pay for holiday revision days. This was a couple of years ago so might have changed.

I’ve worked in both state and independent for 30 years and would never agree to this. I have done school trips in the holidays but feel that’s different.

I never did them in the holidays. I would give up one Saturday a year and do one or two after school sessions a week. I only let pupils come if they didn’t mess around in my lessons. It was a surprisingly effective strategy.

My school used to pay. That’s about six years ago tho so it may have changed. No payment when you go in a trip tho.

I used to do after school GCSE support l sessions too, no payment for those obvs

At my ds school (independent), they are not paying them. There is a whole week of sessions the last week of the Easter holidays. I will be buying a load of treats for the staff room and a thank you card.

The education system runs on "good will" which in practice means that teachers are guilt tripped into giving up hours of their free time without pay or even gratitude. If they object then there is the strong implication that they clearly do not care about the children. Regardless of what detriment it puts their own children, family, friends or health to.

There is no expectation at my school but pay is given for each 2hour session

It depends on the school and the funding, but I know plenty who do it for free. I’ve worked in schools where it was unpaid and compulsory. In my current school, it’s unpaid but not expected by the head. Parents, however, expect it. We had parents’ evening recently and I’d be saying about how effort was low by some of the class, homework wasn’t done, behaviour not great etc. We have them hours a week and their behaviour was like this. Yet all parents wanted to know was what extra would I be doing? When will revision start? What can they pass back on to me because they can’t get them to do homework or revise at home? I very honestly told them that I wouldn’t be doing it, and if I did then it would be invite only for the ones who work hard and don’t disrupt lessons.

At my former school before I retired yesterday, but I had to go in for 6 days. 2 days each for 2 X GCSE groups and an A level group. In addition I also set my A level revision work online and marked too.

Not retired yesterday.

No and I refuse to do them. I give up enough of my life in the weeks I'm paid to be there. I've not giving up my unpaid holiday too. Kids need to take some responsibility for themselves

I am currently doing revision sessions, paid. I said I wouldn’t do them if I wasn’t.

Kids need to take some responsibility for themselves

I think that's a bit unfair in many cases.
My son is doing revision in his own time and I am supporting him as best I can.
The classes have given him a focus for the 3 days they are being held, he learns so much more in face-to-face teaching than from books and online resources (which isn't unusual).
Like many (most?) students in State schools, his education has been impacted hugely by staff shortages. That's not his or the school's fault, but if extra support is being offered, he's going to take it.
They have ONE business studies teacher for the whole school. There are 2 business classes in his year and the other class got the teacher. He got a stream of supply teachers. The stats teacher they got for year 11 was met with a cohort of students with such huge gaps in the curriculum I bet she didn't know where to start. She has been amazing in getting them near to where they need to be.

Sure, there are some very self-motivated, mature 15 and 16 year olds that do a tonne of independent study, and there are students whose parents can pay for tutors.

For the rest, if the school are offering additional classes for the students then I think good for them for attending.

I thought teachers got paid for the school holidays. Or do you mean you're not giving up your school holiday for unpaid additional work?

DH has always been paid or he wouldn’t do it.

We get time of in lieu at the end of term once all the exam classes are gone.

Teachers on the leadership scale are only entitled to 30 days holiday so they can be directed to deliver in school holidays as long as they get their 30 days.

Other teachers are paid for statutory holidays only; all
the rest is unpaid. So they are working with no extra payment during their statutory holiday.

But the whinging continues about how much holiday they get & what an easy job it is

No, we just get emotional blackmail instead.

That's crazy! Are children expected to attend? Seems like overkill for SATS. I'm very glad my children's school takes a much more laid back approach.

Paid in the holidays (1 day) Saturdays (not a cat in hells chance I'm giving up Saturday, unless it's right before the exam) but not for the after school revision programme I've been doing since September.

@rosemarbleIt is a commonly believed myth that teachers are paid for all the holidays. We are not! Our salary is divided over 12 months so we receive a regular ‘pay check’ but only 5.6 weeks are actually ‘holidays’ (pretty standard holiday entitlement in the UK I guess?)

Here’s a good article explaining this: https://www.educationcorner.com/are-teachers-holidays-paid-in-the-uk/

@BumbleBeegu you need a new job. I promise all schools are not like that. Don't get sucked into the martyrdom!

I think I do understand this. I didn't understand what Owmyelbow meant by "I've not giving up my unpaid holiday too".

I work in a state school that’s heavily deprived, and over the past few years has paid us at Easter and May half terms to do a revision session.
I did it before being paid, so it’s a nice bonus.

Not in my school and some teachers have been coerced into it, a couple have had to pay for childcare so that they can be in work not getting paid! Not taking into account the time they’ve also worked planning the sessions and petrol into work. SLT aren’t in though!