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Compulsory lanyards. Any other schools?

176 replies

Reba767 · 05/01/2024 06:55

So my dc school are brining in compulsory lanyards. It's a small secondary, around 600 children. They have their photo/info on the front and on the back, all their behaviour points.They spent a whole day going through this on the first day back.

I really don't see the need for this. Since the new headteacher has arrived its started to be like a boot camp.. Really strict rules and sanctions. I think they're preparing to join the really strict academy that are taking over the schools around here.

I've never heard of secondary school children wearing lanyards well it's the school around here that is.

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SevenKingsMustDie · 06/01/2024 10:16

@User56785 can't quote you, but absolute agree!

And the social media frothing is all the same parents who complain about alleged bullying, then bully you off the board if you dare to give an opposing opinion!

00100001 · 06/01/2024 10:21

DantesPants · 05/01/2024 19:46

Lanyards have (I don't know the right terminology) 'easy detach thing' to prevent this

I would suggest that if somebody wants to strangle / murder somebody they will look for other means than a lanyard (like a school tie??!!)

All the schools round here use clip on ties for this reason. I can't see them bringing lanyards in. As pp said lanyards can be pulled from the back which by passes the 'easy detach thing'.

Of all the children in all the schools that have lanyards. How many kids do you think have been strangled by them?

And then look at how many kids have been hit, kicked, punched, shoved, tripped etc?

I can guarantee that lanyard related violence is inconsequential.

RedHelenB · 06/01/2024 10:29

SunnyFog · 05/01/2024 18:03

Do they have names? I am so excited about the idea of kids wearinh name badges! I might actually learn the names of the lovely quiet ones.

Do you not have seating plans, planners on desks, look at them as you take the register, ask them theor name directly etc etc You'd have to get very close to a child to read their name on a lanyard.

CoffeeWithCheese · 06/01/2024 11:52

Our lanyards at work (and I work for a mental health trust so we have a lot of very distressed people who can tend to lash out) have multiple break clasps so it's not an issue (I think ours have three breakaway points - it's in my work bag so I can't check at the moment). I've had patients grab at my lanyard to try to hurt me a couple of times and they've functioned exactly as needed, broken away in the pressure points and I've been left with a rather baffled patient with a bit of lanyard in their hand wondering why it's not worked out for them!

They itch like fuck though - I've been through about 10 straps trying to find the least scratchy option!

Cheepcheepcheep · 06/01/2024 12:02

I fucking hate lanyards because I have big boobs and therefore when I walk my security pass ‘bounces’ and makes me look ridiculous. I always have my work pass on display or available to show if needed for security (I usually clip it onto my cardigan/jacket) but as someone who was a slim teen but with disproportionately big boobs, I would have refused to wear a lanyard. I was teased enough about them as it was, I wasn’t about to bring more attention to my chest!

QuillBill · 06/01/2024 12:41

I can guarantee that lanyard related violence is inconsequential.

Quite.

As is the issue kidnappers reading the names of children on lanyards and luring them away.

There are a billion problems in schools at the moment. Lanyards are not one of those problems.

Goldypants · 06/01/2024 12:55

We have to wear lanyards for safeguarding, but I don’t think there’s any evidence that they actually keeps anybody safe

00100001 · 06/01/2024 13:36

Goldypants · 06/01/2024 12:55

We have to wear lanyards for safeguarding, but I don’t think there’s any evidence that they actually keeps anybody safe

It allows children to identify safe adults to approach in school.

It allows them to tell the difference between that 6ft3 Sixth Former and the 6ft3 teacher, if they need help form someone or want to disclose an issue.

It allows the entire school community know that person is allowed to be there unsupervised, meaning all people without lanyards must be approached and guided to reception etc

BlouseyBrownMalone · 06/01/2024 13:57

Goldypants · 06/01/2024 12:55

We have to wear lanyards for safeguarding, but I don’t think there’s any evidence that they actually keeps anybody safe

Have a look at the post from@NeverDropYourMooncup earlier.

SunnyFog · 06/01/2024 14:51

RedHelenB · 06/01/2024 10:29

Do you not have seating plans, planners on desks, look at them as you take the register, ask them theor name directly etc etc You'd have to get very close to a child to read their name on a lanyard.

I work as supply teacher.
Seating plans have illegibly small names and in any case the kids NEVER sit in the plan for a cover lesson.
Yes I look at the kids as I call the register. Have you ever tried to learn 30 names then immediately deliver a lesson plan as you read it, while handing out warnings to the kids who are messing around, and reassuring the autistic one?
Its embarrassing having to ask someone's name when they expect you to remember - especially when you know all the troubled kids' names and are using them to praise good behaviour.

northdevonnewbie · 06/01/2024 16:21

My favourite post about SM bringing them in was one likening it to apartheid…

NeverDropYourMooncup · 06/01/2024 17:04

northdevonnewbie · 06/01/2024 16:21

My favourite post about SM bringing them in was one likening it to apartheid…

Yes, as though carrying a card that allows you to buy a cheese roll, packet of lentil bakes and a flavoured water as well as borrow a Collins English Lit Revision Guide is exactly the same as a governmental system based upon the total oppression and state sanctioned murder of different peoples based purely upon their skin colour.

ActuallyChristmas · 06/01/2024 17:09

This sounds like what happened at this local school.
https://www.itv.com/news/anglia/2021-12-17/cambridge-coleridge-parents-claim-schools-draconian-rules-shame-pupils-for-wearing-wrong-socks

Mywhoopdeedoo · 06/01/2024 17:11

ActuallyChristmas · 06/01/2024 17:09

No it doesn’t

YellowDots · 06/01/2024 17:12

ActuallyChristmas · 06/01/2024 17:09

Where is the parallel between the lanyards and anything in that article?

ActuallyChristmas · 06/01/2024 17:15

YellowDots · 06/01/2024 17:12

Where is the parallel between the lanyards and anything in that article?

they wore those cards on a lanyard.

ActuallyChristmas · 06/01/2024 17:17

Mywhoopdeedoo · 06/01/2024 17:11

No it doesn’t

They wore those things round their necks on a lanyard

Mywhoopdeedoo · 06/01/2024 17:28

Where does it say that ?

BCBird · 06/01/2024 17:29

I teach in a secondary school. We have had them since Covid. The card is used for the library and the canteen as well as identification purposes. The different year groups have different colour cords.
I don't understand why u would fuss about wearing them.

ActuallyChristmas · 06/01/2024 17:35

Mywhoopdeedoo · 06/01/2024 17:28

Where does it say that ?

You can see it’s a lanyard.

ActuallyChristmas · 06/01/2024 17:38

For the record and for those unable to wind their necks in. I don’t think there is anything wrong with normal lanyards without behaviour cards attached. My post said that the original post reminded me of a local school that had behaviour cards as well as ID on lanyards.

Shopper727 · 06/01/2024 17:39

I have a lanyard but can’t abide it round my neck so my id is clipped on to my tunic pocket and the lanyard is in my pocket, I’ve got a little Lego man light on it and some badges. The job I do involves lots of leaning over it would be grabbed by kids/babies or swing in their faces so easier just to pop it out of the way.

Would be good for kids at school as my son is a escape artist so if it monitored his movement in school it would be handy to know if he’s left etc

noblegiraffe · 06/01/2024 17:40

ActuallyChristmas · 06/01/2024 17:38

For the record and for those unable to wind their necks in. I don’t think there is anything wrong with normal lanyards without behaviour cards attached. My post said that the original post reminded me of a local school that had behaviour cards as well as ID on lanyards.

Would you object to behaviour cards that had to be carried in blazer pockets too?

Mywhoopdeedoo · 06/01/2024 17:41

Behaviour cards/ reports are often carried in blazer pockets anyway

ActuallyChristmas · 06/01/2024 17:45

noblegiraffe · 06/01/2024 17:40

Would you object to behaviour cards that had to be carried in blazer pockets too?

If they are like those mark up ones mentioned in the report, then yes. A reminder of the rules is acceptable, although on a lanyard is confusing the role of a lanyard - which is ID, door access - with codes of conduct and confidentially recorded info like demerits

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