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Compulsory lanyards. Any other schools?

176 replies

Reba767 · 05/01/2024 06:55

So my dc school are brining in compulsory lanyards. It's a small secondary, around 600 children. They have their photo/info on the front and on the back, all their behaviour points.They spent a whole day going through this on the first day back.

I really don't see the need for this. Since the new headteacher has arrived its started to be like a boot camp.. Really strict rules and sanctions. I think they're preparing to join the really strict academy that are taking over the schools around here.

I've never heard of secondary school children wearing lanyards well it's the school around here that is.

OP posts:
shepherdsangeldelight · 05/01/2024 09:39

mids2019 · 05/01/2024 09:33

Trying to play devil's advocate here but is this slightly Orwellian? I can see many reasons for them from a practical point of view but do we need to have pupils immediately identifiable?

Schools worked perfectly well for many years without so why now?

Why bother with tech at all, really? We managed perfectly well without it for many years.

Safeguarding is a huge deal these days. My DC's school have had instances of people trying to force their way in - prevented by pass activated access doors.
Students can refuse to tell a teacher who they are (or claim they are someone else). Schools are much larger - OP's school is pretty small by today's standard - and it's less likely that individual teachers will know you.

borntobequiet · 05/01/2024 10:35

More useless plastic too.

After all the actual uses have been clearly described?

minisnowballs · 05/01/2024 11:36

Sixth form dd has two (one for each school as split between two) but they are passcards and obviously kids aren't in uniform and need some ID. DD2 has a bracelet like the swimming locker ones that works as a keycard - lets her into her house and (i think) other classrooms. No photo id though she is in school uniform and it's a smaller school.

Brandyginger · 05/01/2024 11:40

Very common in London : where I am state schools mostly have lanyards, private schools ID cards but it’s students choice if it’s round their neck or on a clip on the blazer (or loose in their pocket so their parents get billed £100 over the course of the year for replacement cards: looking at you DS1)

ReadyForPumpkins · 05/01/2024 11:47

110APiccadilly · 05/01/2024 07:03

Well, it's often argued that school uniform is out of date as no one wears suits etc to work. I reckon over half the people I know wear lanyards in work, so maybe this really could be justified as preparation for work!

Is there a particular reason why you don't like it, OP?

This. A much better preparation for uniform at work. All the workplaces I have been in have lanyards and access card. It makes it much easier to see who shouldn't be there.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 05/01/2024 12:07

mids2019 · 05/01/2024 09:33

Trying to play devil's advocate here but is this slightly Orwellian? I can see many reasons for them from a practical point of view but do we need to have pupils immediately identifiable?

Schools worked perfectly well for many years without so why now?

See that group over there in hoodies? Are they students who need to be told to go to lessons as Year 9 break has finished, or are they members of a gang here to terrorise a child, relatives of somebody expelled from here going to find that headteacher and pay them back?

They've come in with the main bulk of students as the gate was opened, would the kids have said anything about a gangleader walking in with them wearing a black jacket and trousers like their uniform?

Somebody hasn't arrived to registration or lessons, but left home this morning. Who fancies running around the two acre site and checking if they're hiding - or shall we just look at Inventry and see they bleeped in at 8.45am and went to a music lesson down that corridor, rather than freak the parent out? Or no, they're not in lesson, must be absent, when they are in and doing something they shouldn't.

mids2019 · 05/01/2024 12:21

@NeverDropYourMooncup

Fair enough......

Readyforrespite · 05/01/2024 12:30

My DC is primary so haven't encountered this yet but I see found lunch cards plastered all over Facebook for secondary school children in our area, with the child's picture and full name. I can't help but think this must be really stressful for the parents of children who need to protect their DCs identity eg adopted children. I wonder what school do about this?

clary · 05/01/2024 12:51

My dc wore them in sixth form.

One of the most popular secondaries locally has had them for many years for all years. Don’t see the issue tbh.

Cookerhood · 05/01/2024 12:54

DD is 28 and had one when she started senior school at 11, so very normal. I bought them double holders fo their bus passes fitted as well.

clary · 05/01/2024 13:06

Agree also with @110APiccadilly (great name!! Love those books) that it’s more likely you’ll wear a lanyard than a sixth form suit at work tbh.

mimbleandlittlemy · 05/01/2024 14:05

RedHelenB · 05/01/2024 09:39

This. More useless plastic too.

At DS's old state school you had to pay a deposit for the lanyard which you got back when it was returned at the end of their time there. School then used them again and again and again and again.... They aren't exactly single use.

Bluevelvetsofa · 05/01/2024 14:18

Staff in all kinds of occupations wear a lanyard. They’ve been in schools for ages. I don’t see a problem.

00100001 · 05/01/2024 15:58

Very normal

NotAClueZ · 05/01/2024 16:23

Is it safe to have stuff hanging round kids necks? thinking of fights/strangling/getting caught and choking?

Sounds unpleasantly corporate for little kids anyway.

greenacrylicpaint · 05/01/2024 16:28

NotAClueZ · 05/01/2024 16:23

Is it safe to have stuff hanging round kids necks? thinking of fights/strangling/getting caught and choking?

Sounds unpleasantly corporate for little kids anyway.

they have a little safety clip and would open up if pulled too hard.

noblegiraffe · 05/01/2024 16:28

NotAClueZ · 05/01/2024 16:23

Is it safe to have stuff hanging round kids necks? thinking of fights/strangling/getting caught and choking?

Sounds unpleasantly corporate for little kids anyway.

If you tug on them the connector pops open so you can’t get strangled. Safety feature!

MrsHamlet · 05/01/2024 16:29

Ours all have break points.

FuckinghellthatsUnbelievable · 05/01/2024 16:33

Normal to have a lanyard here in Scotland. The high school is a community campus so some facilities are shared with public. Kids have to scan themselves through to the school and also pay for lunch. No behaviour points though and tbh DS is forgetful so his is a plain white card as he lost the original.

Princesspollyyy · 05/01/2024 16:37

Colleges have lanyards and a lot of workplaces require staff to wear lanyards too.

What's your problem?

NotAClueZ · 05/01/2024 16:39

If you tug on them the connector pops open so you can’t get strangled. Safety feature!

Not if a kid is fighting and actively trying to strangle another one - you can grab it beyond the connector.

Ponderingwindow · 05/01/2024 16:39

If you want clothing that prepares you for the workplace, it is wearing a lanyard.

goldfootball · 05/01/2024 16:40

I have never understood the pro safeguarding argument to this - on a local bus the other day I could
identify the school, year group and full names of a group of girls because they all had lanyards on. So effectively I have means to track them pretty successfully if I wanted to 🤷🏻‍♀️

Mywhoopdeedoo · 05/01/2024 16:41

NotAClueZ · 05/01/2024 16:23

Is it safe to have stuff hanging round kids necks? thinking of fights/strangling/getting caught and choking?

Sounds unpleasantly corporate for little kids anyway.

Like school ties ?

greenacrylicpaint · 05/01/2024 16:42

NotAClueZ · 05/01/2024 16:39

If you tug on them the connector pops open so you can’t get strangled. Safety feature!

Not if a kid is fighting and actively trying to strangle another one - you can grab it beyond the connector.

if a violent criminal thug wants to harm someone there are plenty of implements around in everyday life.