Compulsory lanyards. Any other schools?

[Reba767]

So my dc school are brining in compulsory lanyards. It's a small secondary, around 600 children. They have their photo/info on the front and on the back, all their behaviour points.They spent a whole day going through this on the first day back.

I really don't see the need for this. Since the new headteacher has arrived its started to be like a boot camp.. Really strict rules and sanctions. I think they're preparing to join the really strict academy that are taking over the schools around here.

I've never heard of secondary school children wearing lanyards well it's the school around here that is.

it's about who is able enter the school grounds

I really don't see the need for this.

Behaviour and standards are declining in society schools and a headteacher who brings in consistency, certainty and accountability is doing so to ensure kids can all learn.

They are trained, experienced and have a responsibility for a huge number they'll be held to. Unlike the average parent.

Not if a kid is fighting and actively trying to strangle another one - you can grab it beyond the connector.

I can't work this out at all.

You pull a lanyard and it will come apart, they have a safety catch

I have never understood the pro safeguarding argument to this - on a local bus the other day I could identify the school, year group and full names of a group of girls because they all had lanyards on.

That's down to the girls. I don't suppose they're required to have them visible on the bus. They could just take them off, or tuck the card into the blazer top pocket.

The safety catch thing only really works if you pull it from the front, or one side at the back. You grab a fistful at the back and theres no clasp to break as its in your hand. But ties are worn anyway.

I'm not against these but what kind of safeguarding does it do?

We have age segregated toilets. The lanyards help us see whether they're in the right one.

We can identify year groups on cctv if we need to.

Members of the community can identify year groups if there's a need to.

I can identify a child I don't teach out the 1400.

Any student or adult without one is stopped and questioned.

Do they have names? I am so excited about the idea of kids wearinh name badges! I might actually learn the names of the lovely quiet ones.

Ours have names and forms. No photos, until KS4/5.

Lanyards have (I don't know the right terminology) 'easy detach thing' to prevent this

I would suggest that if somebody wants to strangle / murder somebody they will look for other means than a lanyard (like a school tie??!!)

Not if a kid is fighting and actively trying to strangle another one - you can grab it beyond the connector.

I can't work this out at all.

@LittleBrenda I meant that a child could just pull it back against another childs throat by holding it in such a way that there is no pressure on the connector so it wouldn't pull apart.

If you think of a lanyard round the neck with the connector on the nape of the neck, if you pull it backwards a bit so the connector is hanging down towards the shoulder blades, you could grab a fistfull of the hanging lanyard resting on the back so you are holding both strands tightly in your fist, the connector would be dangling out the bottom of your hand, with no pressure on it.
a child could then pull it back hard against the throat with no danger of it breaking - because there is no pressure on the connector as it is hanging out of the bottom of the fist.

My DD's school isn't doing this yet, but a secondary school in a nearby town (SM) is bringing this in. There was outrage on the local facebook page with all sorts of issues being raised.

Not unusual, we have different colours for different year groups, timetable cards, smart card for lunches in the holder. No issues.

They are absolutely standard practice in Sixth Form because many schools don’t have uniforms, students enter and leave the site at different times due to home study and it enables a record of exits and entrances when students have driving lessons etc or go out for lunch. As well as the uses referred to by PPs, many schools link the card to printer credits and photocopying to manage printing.

However, there is a safety issue around wearing them in vehicles. My council has advised staff not to wear them when driving or in vehicles, due to some cases of severe impact injuries caused by lanyards during crashes.

Which area in Country?

Lanyards have (I don't know the right terminology) 'easy detach thing' to prevent this

I would suggest that if somebody wants to strangle / murder somebody they will look for other means than a lanyard (like a school tie??!!)

All the schools round here use clip on ties for this reason. I can't see them bringing lanyards in. As pp said lanyards can be pulled from the back which by passes the 'easy detach thing'.

This frothing on social media and gathering of pitchforks by people with too much time on their hands is part of the reason why education is in such a mess. Now the SLT at that school are going to have to spend time dealing with people objecting to lanyards.

The same parents who are plastering their kids all over social media in the first place.

You know if the person is supposed to be on site or not. And approach anyone without one and escort them where they need to be.
It helps identify if that burly man in the corridor is actually a year 13 or a strange man.
It helps students know who to go to for help.

We did for sixth form as not in uniform

Oh and other dc school to enter gates etc but not as lanyard just a pass card

Council workers shouldn't be wearing them off-site anyway like those doing any other job.

Randomly staff are attacked in public due to the employer they are identified as working for.

Incidentally my DD and some others are her primary school have lanyards to wear at lunch time to identify those with food allergies/intolerances.

DD has one for 6th form. Her campus is over 2 schools about half a mile apart so she walks between the two. Therefore I can see it's purpose. She shoves it down her jumper when not at school so she's not telling the public everything.

Lanyards came in at my children's school last academic year, I don't even remember if there was any communication but I certainly never saw anything on social media no one I know has ever mentioned it.

Why do so many people get worked up about non issues, poor school staff having to deal with stupid parents

And it must be at all the secondaries in my area as I see frequent posts from people who've found them in the street or on the bus

@Reba767

Mine had lanyards and they are mid 20's now. They were used to swipe to get into the grounds and different buildings.