Rules on putting a hand one children, eg putting hand out to stop them expiring doing something

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What are the rules on physically touching students eg a student I'd reaching for something and a hand is put one their arm tk stop them and then snatching things and pulling things from them... Escalating the situation.

'Everyone else does it but doesn't get caught' isn't a justification. Although I appreciate your DC may see it as unfair.
You need a meeting with HOY, Senco, pastoral support. There are three issues - your DC needing a process that works for them and their teachers being aware of that process; the DCs playing games when they shouldn't be; the teacher touching your DC and what the school's policy is on that.
Most teachers will avoid touching students unless there is a physical risk to someone but if the teacher has had specialist training (eg have worked in SEN school previously) they may be more likely to touch a student to try to de-escalate.

It does sound as thought the behaviour is disruptive to the rest of the class or why would the teacher bother? A classroom cannot be run around the needs of one child.

Maybe mainstream isn't right for this child. She sounds unhappy.

It can be classed as a disability depending on severity. That's why some children with autism get disability living allowance.

The ehcp needs to state more than 'sitting still is hard' it needs to list appropriate adjustments which teachers then need to follow.
For example quiet fidget toys, playing solitaire if doing computer work etc.

If your EHCP doesn't list these things it will be hard to get class teachers to allow them.

Exactly that. His teachers will already know that "sitting still is hard". The EHCP is supposed to include clear adjustments to enable him to sit and focus, so that whichever teacher he has for a lesson, knows what adjustments they need to make or allow.
That also helps when other pupils pull the 'well Johnny gets to play solitaire in lessons at why can't I?" card.

Without clear instructions on what adjustments have been agreed by the SENCO and management team, you can't expect every teacher to be aware of the best ways to manage him. He's one of hundreds of children that they teach in a week.

Op are you the parent/guardian or the teen?

Oh and this! Its been suggested loads, have YOU spoken to school to discuss?

Agree with the above, that the adjustments listed on the EHCP need to be specific. Your (understandable) desire for vagueness means that posters are left wondering if the 'playing Solitaire to calm down' might be something the teen has decided for themselves and it is that which is causing the issue in class.
How did you hear about the "reaching for a tissue" part? Could that have been misunderstood by the adult in charge and they believed the student was intending something else?

So what does it say in the provision section that addresses this issue? I would expect a target to say something like
“DS will sit in a lesson for X minutes. Resources needed are Now/Next cards, use of xxx to support DS to remain focussed, adult support to give verbal reminders. Strategies used - time out breaks supported by adult if become unsettled, access to xxx app on Tablet for 2 minutes to help regain focus”

When I was at school teachers couldn't touch. At all. I remember some kids in the younger years fighting and the teacher asking some larger older kids to seperate them because they couldn't.

You are coming across as a robot is there any reason you can't type like a normal human?

I assume your child is secondary school age due to the board.

I worked in a SEN secondary and we used Positive Handling techniques, we received training and they were used to keep children safe from themselves and others.

Can't really relate it to your current situation as you're being deliberately vague, but I'm commenting on the fact that physical intervention is allowed in schools depending on the situation.

Is it because it's maybe distracting to other students?

Contrary to popular belief. You ARE allowed to touch children

To prevent injury to themselves or others. Or for any other justifiable reason

What are the provisions outlined to support this in Section F?

Genuine question: how does playing solitaire on a device help someone who finds "sitting still hard?" Surely the provision for a statement like that would be something more physical - such as a movement break.
Oh, and there are fiddle toys that don't make a sound. There's a child in a class I've now taught numerous times that has a range and I can't tell when he's using them because he's really subtle about it. I wasn't even aware he had them at first.

It's calming. Have you ever seen a kid playing a.(non-violent) game on his phone, who's fidgeting and getting up and down?

OK, I see. But then it come down to whether the EHCP lists it as something to use in the classroom. And whether the student really can pro-actively listen at the same time.
Not sure where the school stands with the "other kids will want to do the same," thing though.

Autism is a disability whatever you dd feels about it.

Many people doodle whilst doing something boring and they manage to listen.
The child can definitely listen and flip cards.
The child is quieter and calmer when allowed to do this.
It's when they ate stopped that problems start.

I think you need a review with the school to decide what is or isn’t acceptable fir that child to have.

The issue here is that there is no agreement on what is or isn’t acceptable. (Or maybe even worse for a child with autism what was ok before but suddenly isn’t).

What the teacher did would have been ok (up to the wrestling out of hands) with an NT child.
With someone with autism, the touching should have been a NO-NO and should be known by al the teachers.

The not being happy with playing games makes sense fur an NT child and I can see how this is hard to handle if you say Yes to one person and No to the other.
But again, it is essential to allow that child ‘to stim’ (id personally be happier fir ds to play solitaire whilst listening that to rub his elbow/thumb so much they bleed).

Have you had any input from other agencies that you could feed back to the school too?

I find it a shame though that said child was somehow hiding them or were careful that they dont get noticed. Shows they’ve been told off before for using them (which is actually the same issue than the OP - someone is allowed something others don’t because of their disability/SEN)

You need to meet with the senco and thrash out some strategies he can use in class. He needs to know what he can and can’t do to help him focus. Teachers need this information emailed to them. If computers work, I can’t see a reason not to use them.

Fgs of course a child cannot sit in a lesson playing card games on a computer.

Teachers are allowed to use “reasonable force” when necessary.