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Feedback on SPGS

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TwoSpoonsofSugar · 11/02/2023 06:59

Would love to hear feedback from those with a child currently there. My daughter was offered an 11+ place to start in Y7. We were late entrants in that we had not been considering it but she wanted to have a go and we ended up applying just before the deadline closed. It meant we were too late to get a place on any Open Days so I haven't actually been around the school, met the Head or staff etc.

DD is naturally very academic and self motivated to learn. We didn't tutor for SPGS. By that, I mean not even at home. We are fortunate that the 11+ has been a fairly relaxed process for us. Now I'm torn. She already has an offer from a good private school within easy walking distance. SPGS would be 40 mins on the tube but she says she doesn't mind that. I commute myself for work and worry she'll regret come to regret the commute. Right now, she's able to walk home in less than 30 minutes.

DD would like to go to SPGS. I have asked her why. She says she loves going to school - she does and always has - and she knows it's a great school where she can be surrounded by girls who can keep up. At her current school it is true she isn't stretched. It is supposedly academic but she's been coasting but we've been okay with that so far.

I am worried about the school commute. I am worried that she won't have local friends as girls from SPGS come from all over the place. Equally, I don't want DD to think I've held her back from going to a school she'd prefer. I have stressed that she'd have a commute. That it's unlikely she'd have peers living round the corner to hang out with during school holidays. She says that's fine. SPGS is also more expensive but we could afford it but it means not moving to a bigger house or fancy holidays. I ask myself if the extra cost and sacrifices is worth it? If a girl is bright, wouldn't they do well anywhere? Or is the value of SPGS in its quality of teaching? My own background is that I went to a terrible state school where very little learning was done as class time was too disruptive. SPGS is a whole new world to me and I worry that DD will feel like the poor kid in comparison. We tend to go camping in the UK for our holidays and drive an old car. We live in a smallish house but it means we can budget for SPGS. I don't want DD to go there and suddenly feel she's the poor one. I get that it's all relative and perhaps it's me projecting but it would be nice to know if there are lots of families on modest incomes there too.

We don't anyone else with girls there so it's hard to get real feedback. I have read mixed reviews about girls who thrive. Girls who leave due to the academic pressures.

DD is lovely, kind girl who is naturally academic and enjoys learning. She seems to cope well under pressure. Will there be lots of low key girls like her? Or are they all super confident, competitive alpha types?

Sorry for rambling. In a wobble as you can tell! I don't want to hold her back because of my own insecurities. Like all parents, I want her to be happy and in the right school for her. I'm asking for feedback in the hope it will help guide me in making this decision. All feedback, positive and negative, welcome.

Thank you so much in advance and feel free to PM me! 🙏

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Coronateachingagain · 15/06/2023 23:31

Wish you the best Bonjour!

BonjourCrisette · 15/06/2023 23:42

Thanks. Wishing you the ability to tell the truth in your future interactions on MN.

Coronateachingagain · 16/06/2023 00:02

BonjourCrisette · 09/06/2023 10:43

But please do not tell me the other issues I mentioned are not “real issues” because they absolutely are from what I’ve seen amongst my DD’s cohort.

Sorry, just wanted to clarify that I absolutely am not suggesting the issues weren't real for you and were not a problem for your poor daughter. I just wanted to say that it's not something we have experienced. I sincerely hope our experience is more common than yours and wish both of you all the very best.

Maybe re read this. We are talking about real young people here. The onus is not mainly on the school, but on the parents (including you). A little bit of acknowledgment from your side would go a long way. The school is probably limited in what they can do, if support from the community is not there (never mind ignoring the issues)

BonjourCrisette · 16/06/2023 08:13

I see. So now it's not the school's fault, it's my fault. Got you.

Coronateachingagain · 16/06/2023 22:30

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Parent123456 · 28/06/2023 08:03

Hello did anyone go to the induction evening on Monday? Do you know how many classes they are and how many per class? Had the impression it was huge year group.

FriendlyMom · 28/06/2023 12:45

8 forms, about 15 per form.

hampsteadmum · 28/06/2023 16:37

In our year there were 10 forms of 11 girls per form. 2 forms join up and made up a class of 22 for lessons. In later years GCSE/A levels girls are divided into classes according to the subject-although they kept them in forms for the compulsory GCSE subjects if m memory serves right.

BonjourCrisette · 28/06/2023 18:45

They changed the putting two forms together to make a lesson group when DD was in the UIV and instead took three or four from several forms to make 22 for lessons. 15 in forms actually seems quite a bit more sensible to me. It's more people to hang out with in the morning and more chance of having a good friend in the group.

FriendlyMom · 28/06/2023 19:31

Do the forms change throughout the years I wonder, or the girls stay in the same form from MIV?

BonjourCrisette · 28/06/2023 21:47

DD's year had a form change in the UIV - I think it was the start of the 8 forms of 14/15 rather than 10 forms of 11/12 (I just checked my emails and realised that her UIV had 8 forms and MIV had 10). She was pleased as she did not really get on with her MIV form particularly but has had a really nice time in her new form. The expectation is that they will stay in the same form until they have taken their GCSEs, though, I think. DD is just about to go into the VII and will be in a new form next year - don't know what size or how it works yet.

hampsteadmum · 28/06/2023 22:29

They changed forms every couple of years I think. There was uproar when our DD was in LV when they implemented form changes as there had been no prior consultation -the girls wore white t-shirts in protest, some parents emailed and called Miss Paillasse-the then Head of Pastoral (who left to become Head of St Christopher's Prep). I think after that the school must have changed the way they created forms and classes. A rare moment of drama 😂😂😂... The "protesters" have their valediction next Wednesday.

Parent123456 · 28/06/2023 22:39

Thanks I don’t know why I had the impression that the cohorts were smaller (around 100/110max)

user149799568 · 29/06/2023 09:11

Parent123456 · 28/06/2023 22:39

Thanks I don’t know why I had the impression that the cohorts were smaller (around 100/110max)

Probably because that's what it used to be. For many years they started 106-110 in Year 7. It sounds like they're now starting closer to 120; I don't know when that changed.

FriendlyMom · 30/06/2023 10:55

Thanks- it seems they are quite flexible, re: form changes.
Interesting if there will be any changes to the GCSE process, now that there's been more talk about it.

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