Thread 8 Carry on Corona Cohort: GAV give us the CAG?

[OrangeCinnamon1]

Welcome all to the 8th Thread for this year's GCSE cohort the Corona Cohort!

Some of us have been here since I started first thread back in yr10, some will be new. Everyone has been friendly and helpful in the past. It is hoped this will continue. Going forward we intend to stay in secondary so any new threads should have 'GCSE Summer 2020 Thread # : Carry on Corona Cohort' in title just to make it easier to find.

From now on our DS/DD may go down various paths so we decided not to be exclusionary and stay right here in Secondary until HQ chuck us
At this precise moment in time we are awaiting GCSE results that seem to have been produced by an algorithm that also takes very little account of Teacher Centre Assessed Grades. There is an appeal process but it was changed yesterday to include mock results and coursework, then taken down again for review.
Trying to protect our young people's mental health.during this shit show , which the government claims is their priority...when they talk about wanting students back in schools/college in September...

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I’m already annoyed watching BBC news - saying the Gov want the appeal system needs to be fair. How is this possible if algorithm isn’t fair? 🤬

I got a message from someone who works in the college. My son has been enrolled in a level three course. Even if his exam results are not the best they will not take him down to a level two or three. He may just have to do his English and maths alongside.

This is a massive sense of relief as I didn’t want him to have yet another blow. But here I am been up since 5. So angry about everything. If they decide to wait two weeks it will be awful.

An interesting article.

ffteducationdatalab.org.uk/2020/08/a-level-results-2020-why-independent-schools-have-done-well-out-of-this-years-awarding-process/

That’s really good news Paranoidmarvin

The system is inherently unfair . Those A level students who have missed out on their grades and universities are now full are now disadvantaged and are set to lose a year’s postgraduate wages compared to their peers who were fortunate and the algorithm allocated they needed.

I think the small Cohort thing is one of those unintended consequences.

How is any appeal system going to cope with the volume of appeals it is likely to have it handle ? I still can’t get beyond the fact that appeals have to be through schools gibing an individual no direct recourse having been allocated a random computer generated grade spat out via a flawed algorithm.

Morning all, current mood not.had more than 4/5 hours sleep over last few days

I agree @FoolsAssassin the more I read, the more I get frustrated. Where is the onus on the government to prove its ‘robust’ system?

Eton not happy.

twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1295105129331466242

Love that @OrangeCinnamon1 - That is exactly how I feel!!!
feeling particularly sorry for DS today as exDH messaged us yesterday to say DS can’t stay over as much anymore due to his step children needing extra space 🤬 Great timing from him....I am in full on protective mother mode.

Are schools going to give a shit re pupils who have left?

Still can’t get my head round how spectacularly shit the gov and DFE have been. Were they incapable of looking ahead?

I have twins. 1 under CAMHs as it is. A 2 week wait will be intolerable.

I hope they finally put money into CAMHs and mental health provision for young people. It’s already severely under funded and will be under even more pressure now.

@L00ptheL00p yes schools are going to give a shit about pupils who have left. They're still our pupils. I've a student who has considerably worse than expected but is going on to her next steps. She's still my pupil and I will be appealing if I can. Because that's my job, and because I want her to get what she deserves.

Reading the stories in the press for calls to delay the GCSE results.. NO.. JUST NO !!

These poor kids have been through so much.. it would be so unfair to make them wait for another 2 weeks.. they were originally told they would get their results at the end of July and that date was moved to the normal results day in August... these kids are meant to be starting college on the next few weeks.. they have been waiting since 20th March to move on to the next stage of their education.

My DD is getting more stressed by the day.. not sure she could cope for another 2 weeks... nor me !

But surely they’ll be battling with dealing with Covid, reopening and current pupils. How much time are they feasibly going to have or be able to prioritise for huge numbers of appeals? Won’t those that have left be bottom of the heap?Seems nuts having to go through school for an appeal.

That really sucks Northumberland.

I am pleased to see Eton say they want to help all young people effected, they will hold a lot more clout than most Heads which is obviously wrong but it is what it is and everyone needs to pull together on this,

Would like it think schools will give a shit about those who have left. Would also like to see more money into CAHMs which from every thing I have heard is practically impossible to access right now.

Northern Ireland Assembly set to be recalled from summer recess to discuss A-Level grading after Sinn Fein say they will support a recall petition.

Wales also recalled elements to deal with Education. Boris, meanwhile has a weeks holiday planned for Scotland

Things get worse for Johnson by the hour. How ironic his holiday is Scotland, the place who did the right thing , apologised and Unturned. He now is fighting not to do the same as can’t cope with doing the same as Nicola Sturgeon.

The appeals having to go via schools is normal - we would be able to put in one appeal for up to cohort size rather than all the kids in the cohort appealing individually. The exam boards wouldn't cope otherwise.
Yes we'll be busy. Based on the Ofqual info on Saturday, I'd already gathered the stuff I needed for the students in my class I want to have appealed and passed it on. Now, who knows? But as the class teacher, I've done my bit.
Most schools will have centralised data management - everything I needed was in ours so all I was really doing was checking that I was right in my thinking and that I could prove what needed to be proven. I wouldn't be waiting til the start of term to do this in any year, and neither would most of the people I work with.
I understand your fears, but schools are used to dealing with appeals. We don't normally have to do it on this scale, but we do it every year.

Great letter from the Eton head and good to hear they are agitating in all the right places. No wonder they're pissed off, that story about the subject with the new syllabus is unbelievable.

Do the schools know what the results are before the kids get them on Thursday?

This whole mess is just what you would expect from BoJo. You have 5 months to sort this problem out but leave it till 4 days before to actually realise there is any problem at all.

Bill Watkin on bbc breakfast is very interesting at the moment

Schools get them on Wednesday but they're embargoed until Thursday. The head of centre, exams officer and one other person will see them when they're downloaded.

It is the scale that concerns me MrsHamlet given the talk of 2 million GCSE grades may be going down. I know they do usually go through school and as soon as grades received but that is part of the point - you have done your bit all ready to go but there isn’t a proper appeal system yet for you to access!

Northern Ireland gcse pupils to be awarded CAGs - just heard in the bbc news

Northern Ireland GCSE grades will be CAGs