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GCSEs 2018 (14): the aftermath

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mmzz · 17/06/2018 10:45

Following on from www.mumsnet.com/Talk/secondary/3275972-GCSEs-2018-13-Untwisting-our-knickers-lucky-for-some

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KickBishopBrennanUpTheArse · 23/06/2018 15:29

A question from dd:

Do single sex schools have Prom? In particular all boys schools? We were just discussing how much easier it is for boys and wondering if they would even bother to get a suit to hang out with a load of other boys?

(Apologies for being so heteronormative!)

itssquidstella · 23/06/2018 15:45

My cousin's school had a prom.
They invited their friends and girlfriends from other schools, largely the local equivalent girls' school.

I think it would be a bit odd to have a prom if people from outside school weren't able to be invited!

Wonderwine · 23/06/2018 15:48

Peggy "Well done to your DS and your DH and you for brilliant navigation."
Thank you! That is such a nice thing to say Smile This thread has been so much more supportive that many on MN - we all seem to be trying our best for our DCs!

Cblue - yes, I am pleased he told me about what was going on and he seems to have decided it's not for him.
I think he probably now understands better why we had reservations about this mass 'after-prom-in-the-park' thing. I think lots of teens will say to their parents "but I won't drink too much" or "but I'll be sensible" but they really don't know how they'll feel until they are confronted with peer pressure, and perhaps after they have had a few drinks. It's all rites of passage stuff isn't it? I'm just grateful he seems to have come through this one OK.

TheThirdOfHerName · 23/06/2018 15:54

The (boys') school my sons attend holds joint proms with the (girls') school my daughter attends. Both state schools, they are part of a joint trust and do teach some of the less-subscribed A-level subjects jointly, so it makes sense.

LARLARLAND · 23/06/2018 15:54

is it not better though to wait until after they get their GCSE results before you go on open days? What if they fall in love with a place that they'll never be able to apply for?

TheThirdOfHerName · 23/06/2018 16:01

What if they fall in love with a place that they'll never be able to apply for?

That's a good point and definitely something to think about if they have no idea what sort of grades they're expecting.

Unless we (and his teachers) are very wrong about DS2, his GCSE results are likely to mean it's feasible for him to apply anywhere. He has one open day this week and then the others will be after he gets his results anyway.

Wonderwine · 23/06/2018 16:05

The minimum GCSE standards for uni entry are usually pretty low really, so they'd have to do quite badly to not be able to go and will all depend on their final A level grades anyway, you they may indeed fall in love with somewhere where they won't be able to go if they don't get the A level offer!

Having been through the process with DS1 it's a good idea to get them thinking about universities as soon as possible as L6 goes incredibly quickly!

LARLARLAND · 23/06/2018 16:11

I thought the idea behind these new GCSEs is to give a better idea of the true ability of candidates? I know that post GCSE is a better indicator of degree success than GCSEs but my understanding it that the new grading system is supposed to be giving universities an idea of who the best candidates actually are?

Wonderwine · 23/06/2018 16:18

I think that's true to an extent and GCSE results may influence your likelihood of getting an offer from a university, but my point was that given that the minimum requirements are often e.g. a C or 5 in English etc then a child expected to do well enough for a RG uni for example is probably unlikely to exclude themselves with their GCSE grades.

Aragog · 23/06/2018 16:21

Kickbishop - dd is at an all girls school and yes, they had a prom. It was done with a neighbouring boys school. The schools are close by each other though not linked in any way and don't really do much together.

DD's year had a poll to decide whether to do one on their own or with the boys school. The joint one won. Some years it's joint, some single - depends on the year groups choices.

Aragog · 23/06/2018 16:25

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I think it would be a bit odd to have a prom if people from outside school weren't able to be invited!*^

Most schools here don't allow people from other schools to attend them. Or do you just mean single sex schools? The non joint one (that year groups choice) a few years back didn't allow people from outside school, so was just like a big meal and party for the girls. But tbh I think many proms aren't really big in terms of attending with a partner at gcse age round here anyway; well not based on the photos I've seen from a few.

TheThirdOfHerName · 23/06/2018 16:28

If they visit a university at the end of Y11 which gives high-grade offers, and they like it, it might help motivate them to work hard in Y12. I realise the sort of students likely to be given offers by those universities would probably work hard in Y12 anyway, but it helps them visualise what they are working towards.

DD's school takes the Y9s on a visit to Cambridge University each year and they meet with former pupils who are now studying there, to help demystify Oxbridge and demonstrate that pupils from state schools can apply.

JufusMum · 23/06/2018 17:46

DD is not going to Prom, which is next Friday. I'm a bit sad about it. She is however going out for a meal with three of her closest school friends who are also Prom refusers, then she is going to an after party at one of the boys houses. This surprises me, but I'm going along with it and offering lifts etc.
Sixth Form induction at first choice of sixth form and also the college (3rd choice) next week, then the week after she has a four day induction at 2nd choice sixth form.

BlueBelle123 · 23/06/2018 18:15

DS has prom this week and the dreaded after prom in a field........DH and I were discussing it and said we'd better ask if he wants to take some drink (I can buy extra weak larger).....DS comes into the room
Me....would you like to take some beer to the after party?
DS....errr no
Me....why not
DS....well I don't want to be that one kid that turns up with alcohol
Me....but everyone will be taking it
DS....really, are you sure
Me....yes, so larger or cider
DS...I'd be happy with fruit shoots!!!!!!!!
Me.....Confused
DH.....vodka???
DS......Confused

My fears that DS is going to turn into a party animal and then flunk all his A levels as a result of going to the after party is looking less likely Grin

wonderwine you handled it all so well, as did your DS, I think my DS is in for a bit of a shock!!!

Loving hearing about all your proms and seeing them all dressed up!!

lljkk · 23/06/2018 18:21

£82 on VIform uniform today (Kaching!). Another £150-£200 to go.

JufusMum · 23/06/2018 18:58

DD cleared her study earlier. All books passed on to friend in year 9. Haven't seen the desk look this clear since year 7!!!

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Aragog · 23/06/2018 19:09

That's great Jufus! Wonder how long it will last.

I did DD's desk after she'd finished whilst she was away for a week. We were getting a new computer delivered that week and needed a clear desk for it! Huge tub of books and folders currently in the garage; subjects she hopes to keep doing files away - then Six bags of rubbish later ...

Computer now arrived too and still tidy so far.

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Sostenueto · 23/06/2018 19:42

Dgd round today and she has finally picked her hairstyle for the prom. Its a half up half down cascading waterfall braid. I cant wait for photos! Also she has been tottering about in her prom shoes too practising as they are her first high heels. Hope there isn't alcohol at prom as she has never had any before and as she is going back to friends house it wouldn't do for her to be tipsySad.
Dd and dgd been busy in garden which is coming on a treat. Not one single plant in garden now as hard landscaping taking place and old lawn being took off levelling taking place and looking almost ready for a new lawn. Once done the garden will be very manageable for me and a great place for pup to romp in. She has been busy helping to dig (but not in the right places)Grin

EllenJanethickerknickers · 23/06/2018 19:44

You are much keener to look at potential universities next term than I am! I found with DS1 that he wasn't sure what subject he wanted to continue with until he'd been in studying A levels for a couple of terms. A lot of DC change their minds about what they love once the step up to A levels has sunk in and often change their A level choices in the first few weeks.

The course offered by different universities was fairly important to DS1. Some unis which looked good on paper didn't do the type of options he was interested in. So knowing which subject you want to do is a first step.

By two terms in you have a better idea of what grades are achievable. Even at the super selective I work in some DC aren't on course for all As no matter how hard they work and despite A*s in those subjects at GCSE, which will exclude some universities.

DS1 was on course for a mix of A and A* (to our surprise!) so he could narrow down his choices to around 10 universities to give him a good mix of offers to enable there to be a difference between firm and insurance choices. You don't want 5 offers all the same!

It will still be useful to look at a selection of unis to get a feel for their different ethoses and atmospheres and do look at the accommodation costs and options. Something DS1 got wrong was choosing as insurance a university that didn't guarantee university accommodation in the first year to insurance applications. This gave us a very nervous few months before results came out.

Obviously this is just my opinion. We managed to visit 10 universities open days in June/July of Y12 and Sept/Oct of Y13. Some with a parent in tow, some on his own by train or coach. School were happy to authorise absences for uni visits on weekdays. They arranged some visits themselves.

You will need to book your visit in advance in most cases. We found that if dates clashed in June/July we visited the other uni in Sept/Oct.

TerfTerf · 23/06/2018 20:00

Re open days at uni - it depends so much on your child. Mine is the sort that has been desperate to leave school since Y10 so he's really enjoying being allowed to look ahead now that exams are done. He has friends who are perhaps in less of a hurry more anxious about leaving school and moving on to sixth form college and so are happy to wait a while before thinking about uni. They're all different! DS is currently keen on Oxbridge so it makes sense to see them now considering his application will have to be in at beginning of Sep 2019, so Y12 can be spent working hard to get good grade predictions, doing a decent EPQ, and hopefully doing some more 'personal' uni visits (LSE organise student shadowing days which he is very keen on). I'm definitely not a pushy parent!! My son is hugely ambitious so I allow myself to be led by him in such matters, while trying to keep his feet on the ground and making suggestions about possible other routes through life! DH and I both did one year at uni (we weren't together!) but realised it wasn't for us and left, and have done ok in life Grin so there's absolutely no pressure on our kids to do degrees.

lljkk · 23/06/2018 20:12

About 15 kg of GCSE revision guides (school issued ones, not official exam board ones) that DD wants to hoard in the attic.

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LARLARLAND · 23/06/2018 20:26

TerfTerf My DS couldn’t wait to leave school but he doesn’t want to have a conversation about university until his GCSE results are in.

mmzz · 23/06/2018 20:46

You all seem so excited on your DC's behalf about the proms. I'm just nervous for DS although he seems fine.

It is a modern day version of the debutante's balls, isn't it?

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JugglingFromHereToThere · 23/06/2018 21:53

They did have a good evening I think, nice on day of last exam, and a chance to see friends who may be going elsewhere. Also an opportunity for some nice photos!
I know some played it quite low key though, and went home to watch the football afterwards, whilst others gave it a miss entirely.

AlexanderHamilton · 23/06/2018 23:33

We are all home & under the same roof after watching Ds perform with his amateur theatre group tonight in Phantom of the Opera.

Dd goes into boarding on Monday til the end of term. Dh is signed off til the end of term.